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Avoids the time conflict with Ohio State Michigan. Pack the ICE CASTLE fb
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Avoids the time conflict with Ohio State Michigan. Pack the ICE CASTLE fb
We are hosting a Twitter (@WeAreYoungstown) Space tonight at 830pm to preview the playoff game! Go YSU! Let's get a big victory!
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Looks like our league has 6 teams in the play-offs, 25 percent, impressive.
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Looks like our league has 6 teams in the play-offs, 25 percent, impressive.
As I've been saying all year, we are in the best league. We will do damage in the playoffs. We have a very good team that's only going to get better. Our coach has to develop both the kids and coaches, which is a tough job. We are getting better every single year under Phillips. We are better than we were last year. Time for people to put a cork in it. We made the playoffs. Mission accomplished, but we cannot beat SDSU (yet).
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Well said. Let’s get behind these guys and get as many butts in the seats this Saturday. Another week to practice, develop and improve. GO GUINS
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My post wasn't pointed at you guinpen. It was pointed at others, but your response triggered me to re-state this to the people that are doubters. Time will tell if Phillips is the right coach, but based on our budget and the state of the program he inherited, he's done a fantastic job.
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I think it is great that we got in. I think some of the reason is last year’s snub and the performance of teams from our league in the playoffs. If I recall correctly, MVFC teams in last year’s playoffs, 3 of them, only lost to other MVFC teams! All the other games we won. That is hard for others on the selection committee to ignore.
Also to all those on this board who have said over and over we would never get in this year, you were wrong. Based on last year’s selections you were correct, but thankfully this year was different. We all agree we are not a complete team, especially on defense. But we are better this year. I hope Tyshon King is ok; we need him desperately. And I hope against hope our defense improves so we can win a game or two. If we do win two games it is SDSU again which is a big problem for us or anyone else. It will be interesting to see if the coaches can have the players ready and on game day be able to adjust on the fly for things that always go against a team. These extra games should help our young players grow for next year and see just what coaches show improvement and which do not. And it should help recruiting.
Let’s be positive and support our team. Need to be realistic for sure, but all the negative posts, when done to extreme, do no good for us.
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I long suggested that we could get in if we could beat Murray State by 2 tds and stayed close to SDSU since the other 2 league losses were to ranked teams (on the road) at the time and only by a few points. We also blew out SIU (#5 ranked at the time)
We got destroyed by SDSU that diminished my hope. Others were probably more pessimistic and realistic since, historically, only 3 or 4 teams from Mvfc were chosen. In that scenario, the 4 Dakota teams would be selected leaving us looking in from the outside again.
We would have a chance if 5 teams were chosen.
I was not as much being critical of the HC as to the DC and OC whose design schemes and play calling were inadequate and highly predictable. However, I also understood that with the tight budget that didn’t have the $$$ to hire more experienced assistant coaches. Therefore, I wished the athletic department would aggressively market the games to bring additional revenues into the program. It takes investments to make money.
Here is the article from today’s Tribune/Vindy
https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2023/11/youngstown-state-selected-for-fcs-playoffs/
Go Penguins and I will be at the game on Saturday.
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This is only the second time the MVFC has gotten so many teams in the playoffs (6). To put this into perspective, that's 25% of the field for the playoffs coming from one conference. Looking at it another way, that's 50% of the Missouri Valley's 12 teams making the playoffs :o
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I like our chances to win the first two games to get to SDSU
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This playoff appearance should solidify the bond between Phillips and his players. Finally a concrete result for their labors. It should also be very helpful with high school recruiting.
Speaking of recruiting, has anybody noticed how bad both Akron and Kent have been this year. Not their usual bad, but really, really bad. Win a couple playoff games and we have the opportunity to dominate northeastern Ohio for non-P5 high school talent.
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Picked up my tickets this morning
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How? I can't get through to the ticket office been calling all morning
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How? I can't get through to the ticket office been calling all morning
I went to the ticket office, no one else there until I was leaving. The phones were pretty busy.
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Hope you are right CIMO!
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I came out of hibernation and easily got a ticket online through the YSU website so that's my suggestion over the phone/office methods.
Go Guins!
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First play-off game in 7 years and so so quiet on this board!
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When we had our Space the other night (Listen) (https://twitter.com/WeAreYoungstown/status/1726412593214955686?t=ksNXtkohrKUPF-WZqpWNbA&s=19), two things jumped out at me when looking at Duquesne that should work in our favor:
1. Their QB appears to lead the FCS with 18 interceptions (1.63 int's per game)
2. Their QB is completing just 51% of his passes
Obviously the weakest part of our team is pass defense. Knowing this QB has not been very accurate this year, if I am the DC I would bring pressure early and often to try to rattle their QB. If we can force him out of a rhythm early, I'd like to think we will be in good shape come the middle of the third quarter.
Go YSU!
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When we had our Space the other night (Listen) (https://twitter.com/WeAreYoungstown/status/1726412593214955686?t=ksNXtkohrKUPF-WZqpWNbA&s=19), two things jumped out at me when looking at Duquesne that should work in our favor:
1. Their QB appears to lead the FCS with 18 interceptions (1.63 int's per game)
2. Their QB is completing just 51% of his passes
Obviously the weakest part of our team is pass defense. Knowing this QB has not been very accurate this year, if I am the DC I would bring pressure early and often to try to rattle their QB. If we can force him out of a rhythm early, I'd like to think we will be in good shape come the middle of the third quarter.
Go YSU!
I just looked at the Duquesne athletic website and learned that this quarterback is still in the mix for the Walter Payton Award. I'm serious, I can't make this stuff up. Also, their coach is a finalist for the Eddie Robinson Award. I guess 7-4 and winning the NEC is a great accomplishment in the wacky world of FCS football.
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When we had our Space the other night (Listen) (https://twitter.com/WeAreYoungstown/status/1726412593214955686?t=ksNXtkohrKUPF-WZqpWNbA&s=19), two things jumped out at me when looking at Duquesne that should work in our favor:
1. Their QB appears to lead the FCS with 18 interceptions (1.63 int's per game)
2. Their QB is completing just 51% of his passes
Obviously the weakest part of our team is pass defense. Knowing this QB has not been very accurate this year, if I am the DC I would bring pressure early and often to try to rattle their QB. If we can force him out of a rhythm early, I'd like to think we will be in good shape come the middle of the third quarter.
Go YSU!
I just looked at the Duquesne athletic website and learned that this quarterback is still in the mix for the Walter Payton Award. I'm serious, I can't make this stuff up. Also, their coach is a finalist for the Eddie Robinson Award. I guess 7-4 and winning the NEC is a great accomplishment in the wacky world of FCS football.
They are similar to a mediocre to bad MVFC team. Massey Ratings, which I've found to be a pretty reasonable in terms of computer rankings has them at 65, which would put them at #10 in the MVFV
for comparison YSU is #13, Illinois State is #25, Murray State is #71
I don't think this will be a cake walk, but anything less than a W will be a huge underperformance
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two of the Duke losses were to West Virginia and Coastal Carolina
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two of the Duke losses were to West Virginia and Coastal Carolina
Nice pay-days!
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When we had our Space the other night (Listen) (https://twitter.com/WeAreYoungstown/status/1726412593214955686?t=ksNXtkohrKUPF-WZqpWNbA&s=19), two things jumped out at me when looking at Duquesne that should work in our favor:
1. Their QB appears to lead the FCS with 18 interceptions (1.63 int's per game)
2. Their QB is completing just 51% of his passes
Obviously the weakest part of our team is pass defense. Knowing this QB has not been very accurate this year, if I am the DC I would bring pressure early and often to try to rattle their QB. If we can force him out of a rhythm early, I'd like to think we will be in good shape come the middle of the third quarter.
Go YSU!
I just looked at the Duquesne athletic website and learned that this quarterback is still in the mix for the Walter Payton Award. I'm serious, I can't make this stuff up. Also, their coach is a finalist for the Eddie Robinson Award. I guess 7-4 and winning the NEC is a great accomplishment in the wacky world of FCS football.
They are similar to a mediocre to bad MVFC team. Massey Ratings, which I've found to be a pretty reasonable in terms of computer rankings has them at 65, which would put them at #10 in the MVFV
for comparison YSU is #13, Illinois State is #25, Murray State is #71
I don't think this will be a cake walk, but anything less than a W will be a huge underperformance
We better not look past them to the next game. Hope that we come out ready to play from the get go.
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Let us not look pass Duquesne. If my memory serves me correctly, in the last game of the season, all Wofford had to do was to beat Missouri State, the bottom MVFC team, and we would be in the playoff. We were blown out by MSU.Let us don’t repeat the history.
I still cannot forget that night when I was sitting in the stadium watching us lost to Butlerin total disbelief.
Duquesne is way better than that Butler team.
Let us focu on the task at hand…...Go Penguins
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My prediction is YSU wins 37 to 28. Our defense blows chunks and we have a hard time stopping them
Any other predictions???
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As a fan, I know the coach is going to have the team focused for this game, and in theory I can look ahead to the next game. But Butler taught me that is dangerous to do as a fan too...
Either way Go GUINS!
I am expecting a 45-14 type of game.
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If we come to play, we will win by 3 touchdowns.
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First play-off game in 7 years and so so quiet on this board!
That is what happens after what 7 years since last playoffs etc. My thought is the Dukes a big enough Draw to get a decent crowd. My guess Holiday week I’m hoping to see 8k. And doesn’t the athletic dept say a lesser amount as an announced crowd if memory serves me right for playoffs
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Would really hope for 12k+ for first playoff game in 7 years but holiday weekend with less students in town does not help. Dukes will bring a decent fan base I would assume.
YSU 38-21 my prediction
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Hope our run game is clicking.
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This is a different Duquesne team than in the past. I think they are full scholarship now.
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I expect a close game.
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Hope our run game is clicking.
Run King as much as possible. We didn’t take out McLauglin last year. #10 is a much more effective running back than #1, IMO.
Just picked up my tickets at the ticket office about an hour ago. No waiting, in and out in 5 minutes (2 of those minutes were waiting for her to finish up with the phone order).
No wonder people had troubling calling in to get tickets. 2 students were selling tickets and answering the phone at the same time in the office.
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To anyone with influence reading ... For Saturday and all home games
Blacks Pants
Red Jersey's
Traditional "Y" helmet (no bird).
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This is a different Duquesne team than in the past. I think they are full scholarship now.
They are in fact still partial scholarship FCS. NEC as a conference still only allows 45 scholarships per team. In order for that to change the entire NEC conference has to change. That was why Bryant and Robert Morris left for the Big South a couple years ago. They wanted to invest into full fcs scholarship football (63 total full time equivalent scholarships)
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This is a different Duquesne team than in the past. I think they are full scholarship now.
They are in fact still partial scholarship FCS. NEC as a conference still only allows 45 scholarships per team. In order for that to change the entire NEC conference has to change. That was why Bryant and Robert Morris left for the Big South a couple years ago. They wanted to invest into full fcs scholarship football (63 total full time equivalent scholarships)
thanks...good info YO. I thought they were 3 years at 45, then jump to 63.
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This is a different Duquesne team than in the past. I think they are full scholarship now.
They are in fact still partial scholarship FCS. NEC as a conference still only allows 45 scholarships per team. In order for that to change the entire NEC conference has to change. That was why Bryant and Robert Morris left for the Big South a couple years ago. They wanted to invest into full fcs scholarship football (63 total full time equivalent scholarships)
thanks...good info YO. I thought they were 3 years at 45, then jump to 63.
We are going to pound them.
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No problem IAA! Sidenote, I would love for the NEC to go up to 63 full scholarship equivalent.
What you are probably remembering is when the NEC recently went from 30 scholarship limit for football to the 45 they are today.
https://www.flofootball.com/articles/11205255-what-type-of-scholarships-do-division-ii-iii-and-fcs-football-players-get
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The NEC does play some good football. The dukes actually knocked Towson out round 1 last time they made playoffs.
That being said, we should win handily. This team won't overlook them, they can't overlook them.
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Picked up my tickets yesterday morning, in and out in under 8 minutes.
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No problem IAA! Sidenote, I would love for the NEC to go up to 63 full scholarship equivalent.
What you are probably remembering is when the NEC recently went from 30 scholarship limit for football to the 45 they are today.
https://www.flofootball.com/articles/11205255-what-type-of-scholarships-do-division-ii-iii-and-fcs-football-players-get
right, I thought that was 3 years ago & this was the 4th year and I thought they then going to the full 63. I was just reading the original proposal. The conference teams back down their number of grants-in-aid to 18 and adds that to the 45 scholarships, bringing the total to 63. So in effect they do have their 63 scholarship equivalent. I do not think that grants-in-aid are based on sport, but rather income. So the schools probably do not have to use them for football players.
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Being that the start time is 5pm which is the latest time I believe in the FCS playoffs for the opening round we should avoid the OSU VS MICH game with the 5pm time . No excuses to somewhat fill the stadium for the game I would think, Weather will be cold but dry. I got my 2 tickets on Monday. Go Guins!!!
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Because many students are not on campus due to Thanksgiving holidays, as in the past, we will have problems getting a big crowd for this game (except in the 90’s). 8-10 k is probably a more realistic expectation.
I was pleasantly surprised that they gave out Senior Citizens discount ($10 for age of 62+) for reserved seats. I don’t remember ever getting senior discount in any previous playoff games (I qualified for the last 14 years !). I believe this is the first time. Anyone remembers differently?
Go Penguins.
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I would anticipate a crowd similar with Samford in 2016 which was also a 5pm kick. That game had 5,322. Over the years these FCS playoff games on Thanksgiving weekend have drawn poorly. Hell NDSU has only sold 7k thus far in their 18,500 dome.
To those that do show up, be sure to be loud!
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I would anticipate a crowd similar with Samford in 2016 which was also a 5pm kick. That game had 5,322. Over the years these FCS playoff games on Thanksgiving weekend have drawn poorly. Hell NDSU has only sold 7k thus far in their 18,500 dome.
To those that do show up, be sure to be loud!
I agree. I hope that we can attract about 5k. I remember that the 2016 "crowd" was actually the largest of the games played that weekend.
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Because many students are not on campus due to Thanksgiving holidays, as in the past, we will have problems getting a big crowd for this game (except in the 90’s). 8-10 k is probably a more realistic expectation.
I was pleasantly surprised that they gave out Senior Citizens discount ($10 for age of 62+) for reserved seats. I don’t remember ever getting senior discount in any previous playoff games (I qualified for the last 14 years !). I believe this is the first time. Anyone remembers differently?
Go Penguins.
In the first years after the stadium opened, we did offer senior discounts. I don't remember when that practice stopped. I hope that the senior sale is so impressive that the athletic department resumes the discounts for next season. We have an old fan base, and entertainment spending is difficult for those seniors that happen to be on low, fixed incomes.
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To anyone with influence reading ... For Saturday and all home games
Blacks Pants
Red Jersey's
Traditional "Y" helmet (no bird).
Nooooo the Pete helmet needs to be here to stay. I’ll never understand the hate. It’s one of the best helmets in the NCAA
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I like our chances to win the first two games to get to SDSU
Agreed. We aren't going to beat SDSU. They beat us worse than the Buckeyes did, but it would be good if we could make it respectable at least. A couple wins would be great. We have a ton of returning starters and the experience would be great.
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To anyone with influence reading ... For Saturday and all home games
Blacks Pants
Red Jersey's
Traditional "Y" helmet (no bird).
Nooooo the Pete helmet needs to be here to stay. I’ll never understand the hate. It’s one of the best helmets in the NCAA
I agree. Pete should stay!
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I have to disagree on the helmets. The Pete helmet is obnoxious. I absolutely hate it. I only support the traditional helmet.
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Well it's GameDay penguin fans! Let's go!
On a quick note, IAA they did listen to you (at least on Jersey and pants) GameDay threads reveal on twitter showed red jersey black pants with red stripe.
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Unfortunately the YSU athletic office has demonstrated they don't give a rat's posterior for senior and handicapped fans. Parking blocks away, no shuttle buses, open golf carts that are sometimes there, sometimes not. After attending YSU games for the last 60 years my wife and I decided to drop our season tickets next year.
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Unfortunately the YSU athletic office has demonstrated they don't give a rat's posterior for senior and handicapped fans. Parking blocks away, no shuttle buses, open golf carts that are sometimes there, sometimes not. After attending YSU games for the last 60 years my wife and I decided to drop our season tickets next year.
Why not call down there during the offseason and go point by point with your criticisms to see if there is anything they can do to improve the gameday experience for seniors and the handicapped? However, it sounds like your complaints may be better suited to be addressed by YSU Parking Services, or perhaps the Athletic Dept will need to bring them up with Parking.
I park down by the Education College and walk down 5th to get to/from my car each game. I've seen multiple parking golf cart shuttles to the handicapped lot each game as I usually have to walk in the grass to avoid them.
Hopefully they can hear your concerns and improve the situation so fans like you can continue supporting this team.
Go YSU!
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Unfortunately the YSU athletic office has demonstrated they don't give a rat's posterior for senior and handicapped fans. Parking blocks away, no shuttle buses, open golf carts that are sometimes there, sometimes not. After attending YSU games for the last 60 years my wife and I decided to drop our season tickets next year.
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Amen. That’s what I did couple of years ago (dropped my season tickets) because they would no longer provide the shuttle services for us old folks (not handicapped, just old)
I am going to have to walk from the Wick parking deck today to the stadium for the game (i am older than mid 70s.)
I am determined not to purchase any more season tickets until the shuttle is back for us old folks.
They have to understand that this is my $$. if I am not happy with the products and/ or services, I am not going to spend my $$. This is how private enterprise supposed to work - Give the customers what they want and keep them happy. The lack of business sense of our athletic department continues to amaze me.
This is really not the parking services’ problems. This is on the athletic department. I believe this is the case because when I was at YSU, my department had to paid the $$ to the parking services to cover the parking fee out of my department budget when we invited guests to attend department functions.
In reality, the athletic department could probably restart the shuttle services anytime they want to. Few years ago, they even contracted the WRTA to shuttle us with the city buses. It could be done …..
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I agree with all the complaints. But this is not the time to focus on anything except the football game. We know that the media has access to this site. I propose that in January we start a campaign to embarrass the athletic department to resolve the issue of senior parking.
The Duquesne quarterback is listed on their roster at 6' even. We should treat him like we did our friend Baker from SIU. His lack of height undoubtedly contributed significantly to his 18 interceptions.
I hope that the team is more focused today than many of us appear to be. It helps that this is Phillips first playoff game, and the first for all the players on the roster. It also helps that the Duquesne game last year was competitive. Of course Davidson was still on the bench and we were then a one-dimensional offense. Looking at how many points Duquesne gave up against weak opposition, it is hard to see how they stop us...unless we self-destruct.
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I agree with all the complaints. But this is not the time to focus on anything except the football game. We know that the media has access to this site. I propose that in January we start a campaign to embarrass the athletic department to resolve the issue of senior parking.
The Duquesne quarterback is listed on their roster at 6' even. We should treat him like we did our friend Baker from SIU. His lack of height undoubtedly contributed significantly to his 18 interceptions.
I hope that the team is more focused today than many of us appear to be. It helps that this is Phillips first playoff game, and the first for all the players on the roster. It also helps that the Duquesne game last year was competitive. Of course Davidson was still on the bench and we were then a one-dimensional offense. Looking at how many points Duquesne gave up against weak opposition, it is hard to see how they stop us...unless we self-destruct.
We should beat them by 3 touchdowns.
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Focus on the game folks, if you have issues with something find some like minded people and meet with them.
So now back to the game!
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I figured today would be a small crowd and small tailgate. With that said, there is waaaay less people in the M70 lot than I though there would be. lol. GO GUINS!!! And keep Pete on the helmet!!!
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I figured today would be a small crowd and small tailgate. With that said, there is waaaay less people in the M70 lot than I though there would be. lol. GO GUINS!!! And keep Pete on the helmet!!!
Nobody is interested in watching a team that doesn’t belong in the playoffs play a glorified Division III team.
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Our defense is just pathetic
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Great win! Now for the big test next week. I like the odds for the guins! fb
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Was there to watch the game with other 3800 people.
Good win for us. I don’t think Duquesne is capable of beating any MVFC teams.
Good connections between Davidson and Oliver tonight.
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Bigger win then I expected.
Great game for Bryce! O looked really good. D did what they had to do, only points they gave up came from that needless penalty on 4th and 6.
We have a very solid kicker.
Refs were bad again, afraid to make a call, too many reviews.
The crowd was what it is.
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Was there to watch the game with other 3800 people.
did you count me in that number?
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Was there to watch the game with other 3800 people.
did you count me in that number?
I heard that number 3800+ from WKBN radio 570 on my drive home.
Ok. Including you, the number would be 3800+1
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Was there to watch the game with other 3800 people.
did you count me in that number?
I heard that number 3800+ from WKBN radio 570 on my drive home.
Ok. Including you, the number would be 3800+1
Drew more than that for Men’s basketball Horizon League Tourney game, and a couple of thousand more for the NIT game.
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I figured today would be a small crowd and small tailgate. With that said, there is waaaay less people in the M70 lot than I though there would be. lol. GO GUINS!!! And keep Pete on the helmet!!!
Nobody is interested in watching a team that doesn’t belong in the playoffs play a glorified Division III team.
Wouldn't have got over 5k tonite no matter who we played imho.
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Great game. Wonderful product on the field. Alot of talent on this team. Davidson, Oliver, King all played a strong game. D played well overall also. Go Guins
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Attendance was not good at any FCS playoff games including NDSU with barely over 7k in the building. Poor Attendance all over the FCS. Pathetic. At least we got the win and fans were into it.
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Our defense is just pathetic
They only gave up 74 yards rushing and 74 yards passing and one score. Did they jump offsides and extend a drive for Duquesne? Yes. Did the offense help them by possessing the ball? Yes.
How is that so different from Tressel's teams that had an OL that controlled the games and had "championship drives" ?
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Attendance was not good at any FCS playoff games including NDSU with barely over 7k in the building. Poor Attendance all over the FCS. Pathetic. At least we got the win and fans were into it.
Butts in the seats will not change anytime soon, not talking just YSU. Too easy and cheaper, to stay at home and watch on TV. Hardcore fans will be there and that is what we have been seeing, again not just YSU.
Do the schools get any kick back from ESPN?
The band was moved to the west side, was that due to some NCAA rule?
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The band was moved to the west side, was that due to some NCAA rule?
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I don’t know for sure. When I saw that, I thought it was because they want to face the tv camera located on the East side.
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Our defense is just pathetic
They only gave up 74 yards rushing and 74 yards passing and one score. Did they jump offsides and extend a drive for Duquesne? Yes. Did the offense help them by possessing the ball? Yes.
How is that so different from Tressel's teams that had an OL that controlled the games and had "championship drives" ?
They had receivers wid open all night.QB was bad and receivers dropped several. This is something we need to work on!!
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The band was moved to the west side, was that due to some NCAA rule?
I don’t know for sure. When I saw that, I thought it was because they want to face the tv camera located on the East side.
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I did not know if the NCAA does not want band or student sections by the visiting team.
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The band and the student section were moved due to NCAA rules.
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It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
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I have to disagree on the helmets. The Pete helmet is obnoxious. I absolutely hate it. I only support the traditional helmet.
I'll second this comment. I think the Pete helmet is fine as a 1 off novelty but the traditional helmet is classy. The Pete head is way too busy from a design perspective
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Great game. Wonderful product on the field. Alot of talent on this team. Davidson, Oliver, King all played a strong game. D played well overall also. Go Guins
Just not well-coached.
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I was wondering that too about the band. We should leave the band there next year. Any thoughts?
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It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
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Seems YSU has more W's with the Pete helmet than the "Y" let it rock!!
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It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
Since we have won like 17 straight home play-off games, I would say money well spent. Kudos to the AD.
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I was wondering that too about the band. We should leave the band there next year. Any thoughts?
No can do, need them, student section and the ROTC folks back on the East Side.
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
Since we have won like 17 straight home play-off games, I would say money well spent. Kudos to the AD.
The Provost and Dean of Graduate Studies during Tressel's tenure as Executive Director of Intercollegiate Athletics was his administrative boss. When it came to the financial reporting of the athletic department the football program under Tressel was fiscally self-sustaining, which she told me was much to her surprise at the time.
Go Guins!
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Perhaps the bidding in the 90s was the Wild West, but the NCAA now posts the bid that a school must offer to host a FCS playoff game in each round. For the opening round, the bid was just 40K. We covered that easily.
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
Errr. Why would he bid 20k seats? Rooney Field (Duquesne's home field) only seats 2200. Couldn't he have just bid above whatever their max capacity was? Where else would the NCAA hold a game other than our place or at Duquesne?
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
Errr. Why would he bid 20k seats? Rooney Field (Duquesne's home field) only seats 2200. Couldn't he have just bid above whatever their max capacity was? Where else would the NCAA hold a game other than our place or at Duquesne?
What if.....and it's just a what if......the higher bid helps you get in in future years if on the bubble?
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
Errr. Why would he bid 20k seats? Rooney Field (Duquesne's home field) only seats 2200. Couldn't he have just bid above whatever their max capacity was? Where else would the NCAA hold a game other than our place or at Duquesne?
Logic tells me that there is more to the story, if it was as simple as outbidding 2200 seats my grandkids could have figured it out.
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Strollo bid 20k seats. I bet it is about half the selling price, so that would be about $10 x 20k or $200,000 we paid the NCAA to host. Does not matter how many people actually show, we still owe. I doubt we have ever recovered our payout, even in the 90's. Believe me, He bought us into the post-season. I have to respect that.
It honestly felt like more than 3800 were in the stands. I was going to guess closer to 5k.
Anyway don't get too down on the attendance figures Thanksgiving weekend is just a bad weekend for small college football. I've been going to Mount Union playoff games for years, and thanksgiving weekend is Always sparsely attended compared to the rest of their games.
It's a combination of travel plans, students not being on campus etc.
Didn't look like 3800 on the tube..
I thought that 3800 was low! Thought that it was better to report a low number to save some bucks.
As Wick stated, your figure of $200,000 is very inaccurate. Dana Balash had a story on this. The bid was $50,000 for Round 1: https://www.wfmj.com/story/50033466/penguins-paying-dollar50k-to-host-playoff-game
This has been stated multiple times in the past... bids are not opened until AFTER the field has been set. The idea Strollo bought us into the playoffs is also inaccurate. Our body of work is what got us into the field, the bid likely secured us a home playoff game with how the tournament is regional in nature in Round 1.
Lastly, bids are submitted weeks in advance as they seek them out from teams in contention.
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It has been stated in the past if you make a run in the playoffs you lose money.
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Strollo has always said that YSU will not be outbid. Note that in the 90's, the bid was not as important. Later on, a high bid became an absolute must. However I think the process has been about the same for quite some time. As far as Duquesne, there is no doubt that they were not going to bid that amount. They probably did not even bid.
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It has been stated in the past if you make a run in the playoffs you lose money.
Even at 3800 attendance we would have made $76k at $20 per ticket, not to mention any commercial boxe, sponsorships, food etc
I’m thinking we could have broken even