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Title: Season over
Post by: guinpen on April 14, 2021, 07:41:43 PM
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – The 2021 spring season is over for the YSU football team.

Saturday’s home game against North Dakota has been canceled. A release from the Missouri Valley Football Conference says that YSU determined today they could not play the game on Saturday after playing a league-high seven games.

The Penguins finish the campaign with a (1-6) overall record. They are one of the four teams in the league to manage just one win this season.

Wednesday’s announcement means that no team in the Missouri Valley Football Conference will complete the full 8-game regular season as planned.

Illinois State opted out after just four games, and Western Illinois after 6 games to “protect the health and safety of the players and ensure their readiness for the upcoming 2021 fall 11-game slate.”

South Dakota had their final four games cancelled due, in part, to COVID concerns.

All fans who purchased tickets for Saturday’s game have the option to request a refund or donate to YSU’s World Penguin Day Campaign for Athletic scholarships and championship rings. To confirm your option please call the ticket office at (330) 941-1978, or visit the Athletic Ticket Office in Stambaugh Stadium.

YSU opens the fall slate on Thursday, Sept. 2, against Incarnate Word from the Southland Conference at Stambaugh Stadium.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: guinpen on April 14, 2021, 07:42:20 PM
Anyone have an idea as to what happened?
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 14, 2021, 08:10:24 PM
Covid in the UND program
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on April 14, 2021, 08:42:40 PM
No Covid issues, YSU quit.  ND wanted to play this game, they are not happy.  Phillips opted not to play because of injuries.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: guinpen on April 14, 2021, 09:16:36 PM
Just does not feel right, knew about injuries days ago and that is not a good excuse anyway.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: goodnews on April 14, 2021, 11:44:58 PM
Does the AD have a plan for the 9 game schedule this upcoming fall? 
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: lakesbison on April 15, 2021, 01:04:41 AM
come on. what an illinois state move!

i wanted to see you guys physically dominant them
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: go guins on April 15, 2021, 08:23:16 AM
In the immortal words of the greatest philosopher of the 20th century, Cuba Gooding Jr.  "show me the money"
Not ticket sales to cover costs, no game. 
Good grief, does ANYONE believe the league>  THEY approved the schedule!
Does ANYONE believe YSU, "the players need more time to devote to academics?  THEY recruited them to play 12 games in a season not 8, WTF believes any of this crap?  It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: guinpen on April 15, 2021, 09:25:15 AM
Just heard Hannon on the radio and it seems that DP made the call. I think it was a bad move and not consistent with what he has been preaching.

Game will not be a forfeit  and can really put the screws to Missouri St and NDU with the upcoming playoffs.

Playoffs will be a joke this year anyway, football is over until Sept.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: dwj on April 15, 2021, 11:22:39 AM
Kind of ironic the coach who has been stressing that the players not quit & keep going till the end of the game quits.  And it makes us look like a bunch of pu$$ys instead of or blue collar tough nose image that he talks about.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Double ET on April 15, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
Kind of ironic the coach who has been stressing that the players not quit & keep going till the end of the game quits.  And it makes us look like a bunch of pu$$ys instead of or blue collar tough nose image that he talks about.
I had similar reaction when I heard the cancellation. At first, I thought ND had COVID-19 issues again until I learned that it was us.

It is hard for me to digest. The coach has stressed two things continuously since he took over the program. One, this is Youngstown and we have this tough, hard working  & never quit attitude, even during tough times. Second, our players can only getting better by playing the game and they don’t get better by just practicing.

By canceling the game, he failed on both.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: goodnews on April 15, 2021, 12:43:06 PM
Maybe the coach knows more than we do about why UND canceled the originally scheduled game? Non the less , YSU football is a shell of its self at this point. We'll be fortunate to win 3 maybe 4 games in the fall. You have to assume we'll lose every road game so realistically only 2 wins.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: dwj on April 17, 2021, 10:55:19 AM
I hope the coaches are using the downtime researching the transfer portal.  We need immediate help on offense OL, QB the top 2 don't appear to be D1 talent, WR can't get open and can't catch when they are, RB we have a good back in JM but we need backup to spell him hopefully someone with size.

Missouri State did a good job in getting help hopefully our coaches can do the same.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Kandrase on April 17, 2021, 05:29:39 PM
Maybe the coach knows more than we do about why UND canceled the originally scheduled game? Non the less , YSU football is a shell of its self at this point. We'll be fortunate to win 3 maybe 4 games in the fall. You have to a$$ume we'll lose every road game so realistically only 2 wins.

This team showed sparks of good football and competed with just about every team they played, they are young and inconsistent but I think they could be a really good team in the fall. QB situation needs to improve but our running game was remarkable considering our young oline. If we can run the ball we can compete in the MVFC
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Double ET on April 17, 2021, 07:07:14 PM
I hope the coaches are using the downtime researching the transfer portal.  We need immediate help on offense OL, QB the top 2 don't appear to be D1 talent, WR can't get open and can't catch when they are, RB we have a good back in JM but we need backup to spell him hopefully someone with size.

Missouri State did a good job in getting help hopefully our coaches can do the same.

So, what has happened to our 3 star QB Freshman recruit? Are our coaches writing him off?
Wade played in 4 games in his redshirt freshman year.  I hope Crenshaw gets to play in a few games in the fall even if DP decides to redshirt him.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Penquin68 on April 18, 2021, 10:25:24 AM
Really don't understand cancelling this last game.  Give those that don't play a chance to show they can or can not play at this level.  The real reason may be $ and not decided by DP.  Who knows. I would sure like to see the QBs that never played and others.  Yes it may be a big loss, but the season is over anyway. May never find our the real reason. DP last week keep talking negatively about the teams that quit the season and this week he joins them!
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Double ET on April 18, 2021, 11:39:49 AM
Really don't understand cancelling this last game.  Give those that don't play a chance to show they can or can not play at this level.  The real reason may be $ and not decided by DP.  Who knows. I would sure like to see the QBs that never played and others.  Yes it may be a big loss, but the season is over anyway. May never find our the real reason. DP last week keep talking negatively about the teams that quit the season and this week he joins them!

Having been part of the YSU faculty rank for a long time, it would not surprise me that the decision was made way above DP’s pay grade.
DP might just step up and own it. Just saying.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Wick250 on April 18, 2021, 12:45:04 PM
I doubt that this decision was driven by finances.  If money were the issue, we would have canceled the season before the expensive road trips to Western Illinois and Missouri State.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: go guins on April 19, 2021, 08:47:30 AM
I doubt that this decision was driven by finances.  If money were the issue, we would have canceled the season before the expensive road trips to Western Illinois and Missouri State.
And you don't think ND cancelled because they didn't want to come to OH? 
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on April 19, 2021, 09:16:13 AM
  This was 100% a DP call.  Strollo actually wanted to play the game and Tressel let DP make the call.  Phillips knew without McLaughlin, Waid, and Lenton all injured, this would likely be a rout.  Also several players last week went into the portal, including cornerback Dee Ford.

Move was weak, especially when DP said that he would only do this if he lost a starting unit to Covid.  Finances not an issue at all with a home game.  Had this been a scheduled road game, then maybe a factor.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: go guins on April 19, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
  This was 100% a DP call.  Strollo actually wanted to play the game and Tressel let DP make the call.  Phillips knew without McLaughlin, Waid, and Lenton all injured, this would likely be a rout.  Also several players last week went into the portal, including cornerback Dee Ford.

Move was weak, especially when DP said that he would only do this if he lost a starting unit to Covid.  Finances not an issue at all with a home game.  Had this been a scheduled road game, then maybe a factor.
First, you know who tells me it was definitely not about the money?  EVERYBODY!  Doesn't matter who or want the decision it was NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY!  (it's always the money)
Second, as I read this blog for years, I'm told over and over the decision maker is Strollo.  For the first time, somebody admits that Tressel made the important decision, not Strollo.  I've know for years this has always been true, nice to have confirmation.
Title: Re: Season over
Post by: Double ET on April 22, 2021, 05:44:08 AM
Article from Tribune/Vindy on cancellation of the last game:

https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/sport-columns/2021/04/phillips-penguins-face-many-challenges/

Title: Re: Season over
Post by: IAA Fan on April 24, 2021, 03:39:04 PM
Guys, you can only applaud the decision. I can understand why it was canceled and I can also understand why we should have "finished what we started".  We should have never played a snap to begin with. I have not considered this a real season from the start. The most frustrating thing? Here we (FCS/I-AA) are the only DI football in town and the division still cannot get any real TV coverage. Make sure to get your vaccinations. I am hearing schools have had to submit plans to factor in masks and testing into next season.

As to the "decision maker" Tressel is just as much "in hiding" from the NCAA as any former coach. This risk to the university has just been too great for him to even be suspected of athletic involvment. Just because he is the President does not mean the NCAA does not have him under a scope. Until quite recently, he stayed well away from athletics. Now that his sanctions are over he can be as involved as any other university president. Which can be quite a bit. Involvement as the president can be far more impactful. Facilities, athletically favorable curriculum and such are so important.