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Title: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 03:47:16 PM
3-hours and counting
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 24, 2015, 04:41:44 PM
I hope our running game is productive. If so I really like our chances. There is know way I can stomach another game like the last one..Know way!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 04:55:41 PM
Must win or kiss the season goodbye.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
I forgot that we only get a short pregame show on away days.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 06:24:38 PM
Before WKBN's pregame, Rookery radio was doing an hour long pregame, which was pretty good....but stopped.  IDK why ???
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
I cannot get the video to pop-up on ESPN3
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 07:09:02 PM
We need stops on 1st-down
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 07:18:20 PM
Montgomery coaching on the sidelines tonight. Good to see Davis in early.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
Wells is just not the answer. Sorry kid, this isn't high school anymore. Step it up.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
Not enough points.  Did you hear any reason coach M is not up in the booth?
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
I think with all the offensive struggles, he and Bo decided to change it up and coach em from the sidelines. I like the idea.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 07:36:49 PM
Turnovers.... Sigh.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 07:37:26 PM
Davis w/ some rushing yards instead of dumping the ball.  I'm glad they took the statue out.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 07:39:46 PM
Third straight week w/ an early turnover.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 07:49:19 PM
7-0 good guys. Nice to see some points after a missed FG from the Salukis.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 07:51:43 PM
Not sure I like him down on the field. Too hard to see the opposite side for shifts in coverage. However, with Davis seeing his first action , I see him hanging out next to Montgomery ...has to add much needed confidence. 

TD!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 07:54:27 PM
Oh boy. We need Nate. Hope he is alright.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
THAT'S what Davis can do to a defense. Love it!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:07:30 PM
Newsome back at center seems to have stabilized the line a little better. Getting better push tonight.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 08:08:07 PM
And no knee down when u hear footsteps!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
3rd and a million and they get it on us again.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
Alright, Up 7 at half and get the ball coming out. I'll take it.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 24, 2015, 08:29:47 PM
I knew Ricky could be a weapon if they utilized him..love it !! Yes 05 love the idea of Montgomery on the sidelines..good idea
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on October 24, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Heard they are NOT using replay.  Anyone know why? 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
Wells clearly can't cut it. Time to sit the bench.... Horrible, just horrible.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
The reason the statue is the starting QB is??
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 24, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
Well - Our man Wells just did it again. A pickoff and a touchdown for SIU. We find ways to lose games.
Title: Time for a QB change!
Post by: JP21 on October 24, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
It's time, enough is enough.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
Why is the saboteur / statue still in?????? WTF???
 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:52:33 PM
This is laughable. Just stares down his first read and fires the ball, regardless of the defense. Just laughable...
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 08:59:38 PM
#6 might cost us the game. Again.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 09:03:06 PM
Man is this hard to watch
Title: Re: Time for a QB change!
Post by: pioneer9 on October 24, 2015, 09:04:40 PM
Normally, I'd think this is way too early to say change QBs but Wells is just super mediocre and mediocre doesn't get it done in our conference. Unfortunately, I really don't think there is a QB on our roster yet that fits the bill so... We just go with it. Maybe he'll win the game for us today and I can rescind my statement... Doubt it
Title: Re: Time for a QB change!
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 09:09:36 PM
Make him a reserve QB used only if there are no other options.  Hopefully he transfers to a D2 or NAIA school and frees up a scholly for a MVFC level player.
Title: Re: Time for a QB change!
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
Davis has to pass. Can't just run. To predictable
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
That TD was the first time that Wells looked off & it worked. He looked at the TE & through to IH. Why ca he not do this all the time?
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 09:25:24 PM
Nice pass by the statue / # pic 6
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:25:43 PM
Wells has bounced back nicely. SIU defense isn't very good tho...
Title: Re: Time for a QB change!
Post by: mayor on October 24, 2015, 09:28:58 PM
Davis has to pass. Can't just run. To predictable
I agree. Davis runs the plays that Monty calls. Monty needs to let him throw.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 09:31:49 PM
Is Rivers playing?
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 09:33:46 PM
SIU has the worst PK.  dude really sucks.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 09:37:26 PM
do a shot every time the play-by-play guy says "tough sledding."
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:42:06 PM
Alright boys. Get a stop and end this game!!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:46:47 PM
Is this 2011? 2012? 2013? Blitz kills us.... Gah.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
Now this game is on Monty... 3 runs and a punt? What do you think?
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: guinpen on October 24, 2015, 09:49:58 PM
These are the drives that make or break
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:53:13 PM
You can't keep freaking putting Davis in and keep RUNNING THE SAME PLAY.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
1 run for no gain, another run for no gain..... Ah Monty at his best!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:54:19 PM
Booooooooooooo
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
And the meltdown has begun.....
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:10:07 PM
Lucky to be in OT. Yet we should never have been here in the first place.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:12:30 PM
Sorry but I merged the topics. Too hard to read two in-game threads.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:14:51 PM
Sigh. #12 still looking for that ball....
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 10:15:41 PM
I am gonna puke
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:17:17 PM
Players wanted Bishop. Although on his behalf, he has played well.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:20:09 PM
THATS THE PLAY YOU CALL? GO FU*K YOURSELF MONTGOMERY!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:20:32 PM
Sorry ass offensive coordinator. Joke.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 10:21:16 PM
WTF was that
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSU_Penguins17 on October 24, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
This is a win for me, plain and simple. We aren't to the out where we can focus on winning and losing as we simply do not have the talent level or mental toughness of an MVFC team. No sane and smart person should focus on wins and losses for a couple seasons. This rebuild job is a 5-6 year process.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
Montgomery shouldn't be allowed to get on the plane. Sorry ass coach. I will not support YSU football until this man is gone from the coaching staff. JOKE.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:22:57 PM
This is a win for me, plain and simple. We aren't to the out where we can focus on winning and losing as we simply do not have the talent level or mental toughness of an MVFC team. No sane and smart person should focus on wins and losses for a couple seasons. This rebuild job is a 5-6 year process.

Lol, sports is all about wins and losses. There are ZERO moral victories in football. Plain and simple. Joke.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Dmorton on October 24, 2015, 10:24:28 PM
Really! Are you kidding me.  That's the play we come up with!  Game should have been over a long time ago to the tune of 35-20. 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:25:05 PM
05 ...please quit posting that so many times. You are about to be gone!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:25:58 PM
and that's no joke! I am tired of you
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSU_Penguins17 on October 24, 2015, 10:29:44 PM
Sports are about winning and losing but we simply do not have the talent to be anything more than a mediocre program. The fact we even competed with SIU is a huge surprise to me. I fully expected to lose by 3 touchdowns.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:30:12 PM
We make dozens of mistakes, give up a 12 & 11 point lead and you still blame one person. We simply do not make plays. Clearly #20 thought we had to score, because he had the first-down on the ground. We are not a good FB team ...that is it.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 10:30:31 PM
This is bad... Hey at least Wolford would take chances on 4th down.  Should have not kicked the FG and went for it.  I am sick of this
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: peteonastick on October 24, 2015, 10:33:43 PM
The Mooney connection needs to end. Get rid of Carl. Ron Stoops.  And obviously get rid of Montgomery. This was worse than the last two losses. Ashamed and disappointed in this pathetic display of football.

Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:34:08 PM
Lol.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
#pick 6 is the player of the game???? We win w/ no OT w/o the pick 6.  unreal.

2 of last 3 games lost due to a pick 6.

How do you not give #12 a pass play?  The D knows its run....

The offense has deteriorated immensely since last year.  We may only win one more game this season..
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 24, 2015, 10:37:39 PM
Offensive play calling has been just that.. Offensive!!  So predictable .  Close to high school .  Really sad day
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSU_Penguins17 on October 24, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
We can complain about coaches all we want but until this team gets more than one leader (Derrick Rivers) and starts to get tougher mentally than we aren't going to be anything more than a mediocre program. I've had season tickets for over 15 years and right now we just need to compete in games and develop a culture.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 24, 2015, 10:40:37 PM
The hatred on the board for Montgomery is unbelievable. He didn't give up an 11 point lead with 5 minutes left. He didn't shank a punt for 12 yards, he didn't get punt blocked. Football is a team game and this loss is on the whole team: offense, defense and special teams. Half of you on here need to get a life. It is sad that 18-22 year old kids are more mature than some of you.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 10:48:42 PM
The defense was exceptional.  Special teams adequate.  The offense...terrible.  We played the second worst MVFC defense.  Who is in charge of the Offense?

WBB starts in 3 weeks, so at least there's that.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 24, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
Half back pass for the win!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. JOKE.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 24, 2015, 10:55:24 PM
What is your definition of a good offense?
501 yards doesn't do that for you
31 points?
You do realize we scored more on Pitt than 5 of their 6 opponents...right?
Like I said the offense wasn't perfect tonight but 31 points should be enough to win a game.
Adequate special teams? 32 yards a punt is adequate?
Kicker can't get a touchback? Kicks it out of bounds?


Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2015, 10:57:05 PM
Defense "exceptional"? Did you watch the same game as I?

We made an average QB look like a star.
We twice let a receiver get behind us with 3 & 4 and long and gave up a TD. We blitzed both times.
We gave up huge yardage on every single 1st-down.

How is that exceptional? They played hard ..not well. Same can be said of the offense. Special teams was a disaster waiting to happen & today was the day. We were beat.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: penguinpower on October 24, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Facing #1 offense in mvfc and we run a trick play in ot
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 24, 2015, 11:06:13 PM
 A trick play worked pretty well in the 2 pt conversion a few weeks ago. If he would have run the ball you would all be saying "Can't he come up with something better than that?" Remember the reason we were in overtime was because we gave up a 11 point lead with 5 min left in the game.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 24, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
I just can't understand why you would bring the house on the long screen play that went for a TD..up 11deep in the 4th keep everything in front of you coaches..it's elementary and what you get paid to do..incredible
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 24, 2015, 11:10:14 PM
Football Fever - Maybe we should blame that on Montgomery too! :o
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 24, 2015, 11:11:13 PM
Are you kidding me?  The defense kicked ass.  SIU only scored 25 (minus the pick 6 and the OT score). Only once this season were they held that low.  They put up 48 on Indiana and 73 against Misery.  They are the best offense in the best FCS conference, and the #4 offense in the FCS.

Yeah...special teams adequate..they didn't f up as bad as the offense.

The offense sucked.  Pick 6 once again created a hole the team couldn't crawl out of.  Last play of the game bizarre. Wells dumping passes because he is a statue.  Davis doesn't throw a single pass, basically telegraphing the play call to SIU.  Never took advantage of great field position early in the game.  Yeah...sucked.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 24, 2015, 11:32:59 PM
Penguin Nation - I want what you are drinking!! 8)
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2015, 07:54:49 AM
The offense turns the ball over too many times and as a result they are not good.  The special teams is horrendous.   The defense is not good enough to get the ball back and Hunter is guaranteed to throw a pick 6 in every game and he stares down every throw.

The offense sucks.  Stubbs is the best receiver and he is 5ft tall.  The receivers get no separation and the OL doesn't get a good push. Yes we had a couple big plays against a team with a bad secondary and poor overall defense. If our running backs weren't so athletic we wouldn't sniff 500 yards of offense.  We only get improvised yards on outside runs. SiU is not a good team.  We lost to a lower opponent.  We have the potential to play with anyone but we are so inconsistent  it is sickening and we aren't making progress right now.

But once again the turnovers were the difference.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSUGO on October 25, 2015, 08:37:05 AM
We had the game won at 31-20 go early in the 4th qtr.  Then the wheels came off.  Montgomery went into his in prevent offense.  Instead of what got them the lead.  Wells is a vertical passing QB and the Salukis got burnt time and time again.  They had no answer to our passing came.  We had a 56% pct 3rd down conversion percentage vs their 42%.  We lost the game on that Stupid jailhouse blitz midway through the 4th qtr. Which tourched us for a long td.  Then the punting came was atrocious.  I like they put Davis in.  But They ran that to the ground.  Jody Webb needs to be called out too He is a fumbler.  Then that last play call with the trick play was a gem.  That is where Davis should have been.  I blame this game on Montogomery and Pelinis bro.  To blame the players on this one I don't buy it.  They can't veto stupid play calling and coaching. 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 25, 2015, 08:57:43 AM
We had the game won at 31-20 go early in the 4th qtr.  Then the wheels came off.  Montgomery went into his in prevent offense.  Instead of what got them the lead.  Wells is a vertical passing QB and the Salukis got burnt time and time again.  They had no answer to our passing came.  We had a 56% pct 3rd down conversion percentage vs their 42%.  We lost the game on that Stupid jailhouse blitz midway through the 4th qtr. Which tourched us for a long td.  Then the punting came was atrocious.  I like they put Davis in.  But They ran that to the ground.  Jody Webb needs to be called out too He is a fumbler.  Then that last play call with the trick play was a gem.  That is where Davis should have been.  I blame this game on Montogomery and Pelinis bro.  To blame the players on this one I don't buy it.  They can't veto stupid play calling and coaching.
YSUGO just nailed it !! Couldn't have been said any better
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Double ET on October 25, 2015, 09:21:49 AM
We had the game won at 31-20 go early in the 4th qtr.  Then the wheels came off.  Montgomery went into his in prevent offense.  Instead of what got them the lead.  Wells is a vertical passing QB and the Salukis got burnt time and time again.  They had no answer to our passing came.  We had a 56% pct 3rd down conversion percentage vs their 42%.  We lost the game on that Stupid jailhouse blitz midway through the 4th qtr. Which tourched us for a long td.  Then the punting came was atrocious.  I like they put Davis in.  But They ran that to the ground.  Jody Webb needs to be called out too He is a fumbler.  Then that last play call with the trick play was a gem.  That is where Davis should have been.  I blame this game on Montogomery and Pelinis bro.  To blame the players on this one I don't buy it.  They can't veto stupid play calling and coaching.
I agree. The game has been won after the 31-20 lead. All they had to do is to make SIU use up some time in their scoring drive. So, why call the all out blitz exposing yourself to. Quick score?
Webb was a poor decision maker. He could have easily made the first down instead throwing it into triple coverage whiles the receiver was running full speed near the sideline.
I like Using Davis. But they cannot put him in just to run the ball so the defense could lock onto him. I don't care if they call a passing play just to have him throw the ball out of bound or one the feet of the receivers just to keep the defense honest. Our offensive line was not good enough to block for him if the defense knew it was coming.
SIU out coach us. Wells was a much better passer with vertical passing and the slant route. He was bad in passing toward side line on the out routes.
Monty did not call too bad of a game, to be honest except of the last play of the game. Davis should have been in there. If the receivers were not open, ran for the first down to live for another play. That one was on the coaches who put the ball in the hands of the running back to throw the ball in a critical 4th down.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: The YO Show on October 25, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
I will also put the blame on the coaching staff. Not singling any out, but outside of a couple of turnovers, there is not much else you can just blame the players for in that one.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSUGO on October 25, 2015, 10:12:07 AM
You have to give some credit to the players and the coaching staff.  They could have gave up after last week.  We went on the road and we took to overtime. We could easily have 2 more wins instead of 2 gut wrenching losses.  I do like the fact that Monty was calling plays from the field instead of upstairs. We have 4 more games if we can win 3 we can build on next year.  But I saw 100% effort last night I applaud them for that.  This team lacks playmakers on both sides of the ball and whatever scheme we are going to run either recruit that type of player that fits or change the scheme to fit your talent.  Pelini is an upgrade from Wolford I more ways than one.  We are 7 games in and it will take some patience.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2015, 10:58:22 AM
Our defense was just lit up for 460-yards and they "kicked a$$"? We gave up 139-yards on returns, that equates to 7-points (almost 10) right there. We gave up 2-leads in the game. ET, when you have 2-score lead you are supposed to chew clock. So if your precious defensive master did not give up 2 scores in less than 2.5 minutes, we would not have to worry about it.

I will be the first to admit that I did not like the way we had to punt late in the game, but its should not have mattered, the objective was to eat up clock or force SIU to use their TO's. Last week's offensive performance was bad. This week's was very poor executions and lack of players. Again our O-line was dominated in Q1 ...and then many time throughout the game. No excuses ...just facts. 6.6 yards per play and 507-yards of offense should win a game & that is not an OC issue.

Yo, you have to put the blame on the players. receivers did not get open, many more dropped passes, Wells making bad decisions, punts and kick terrible, line dominated early in Q1 ad Q3, then again late when SIU dug down deep we had no answer. Defense let players get past them all game because no-one stayed home.

I am not saying that we do not have problems on offense, but let's not make Stoops & Pelini out to be saints as DC's. Also, do we have a special teams coach? I do not like how much we have to deviate from our offensive style, but at least coach M was able to do it & get some productivity ...yet you people still complain. Let the guy fix his offense, let coach S & P work on the D and then let's see what needs to be done on special teams.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSU1 on October 25, 2015, 10:59:59 AM
I guess the black pants did not help.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2015, 11:19:03 AM
we have had black pants away all season. I want Black & red at home :)
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Double ET on October 25, 2015, 11:43:27 AM
I guess the black pants did not help.
LOL... At least the score was closer.
For almost 50 years, I stayed for the entire game, including those two rainy home games this year. I left, for the first time at the beginning of 4th quarter in the SDSU game because I could not take it anymore. Adding insult to injury, when I got the shuttle bus to ride back to the parking deck, the bus was already almost full. I managed to get on. I was informed that the bus cannot leave until 5 minutes left in the game. I have to listen to that stupid game from the bus radio. Gee, at least it was warmer.
Next home game, I will be able to park near the stadium since the attendance will be low. In case the game got out of hand, I could walk back to my car at the 3rd quarter instead of listening the game on the shuttle.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 25, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
1AA:

The best MVFC offense was going to put up yards and points.  We knew that.  The question was could we contain them.  SIU only scored on one out of six possessions in the first half. I call that a success, and yes, kicking ass, against the #4 FCS offense that almost beat a BIG.  The offense squandered these opportunities with mostly good field position.  The first two possessions of YSU in the second half were a pick 6 and three and out.  The D could only contain so long.

The pick 6 changed the momentum in the second half.  No pick 6 = we win and are celebrating and speculating about the playoffs.  The coaches are at fault in part for the pick 6 in that they fielded a QB with poor judgment and no mobility.  He fells pressured to make risky tosses because the knows he can't run his way out of a collapsing pocket.

Now we are rebuilding for the future.  Time to get Davis some experience and develop depth.  Time to make #pick 6 a reserve QB.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: footballfanatic on October 25, 2015, 01:06:38 PM
The pick 6 was a game changer..no doubt about it. However #6 had 324 yards passing and 3 touchdowns.... don't forget about the good part.

The other big factor is that our defense did not force any turnovers and get us any field position. Because their kicker was able to kick a touchback we started on our own 25 most of the night. Unfortunately we can't say the same about SIU.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSUGO on October 25, 2015, 01:36:16 PM
Other than Davis, can run, what are you guys seeing, I must be missing something.  He has been here 3 yrs.  Does he know the offense? Is he accurate in practice.  He didn't beat out Dante last year.  We have seen this time and time again, Zwick, Street, etc.  if I was the coach I see a guy we could plug in at WR.  Or RB. There has to be a reason why the Coaching staff lacks trust in him to throw the ball. 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 25, 2015, 02:01:36 PM
I haven't seen enough of Davis to determine if he is the solution.  He scored our only rushing TD (and didn't drop a knee prior to the end zone), and was our second leading rusher despite limited action.  Not allowing him to throw made his rushing less effective.  Now that we are in a rebuilding period, it makes sense, to me anyway, to give him a start next week.  Why not? Because he too may lose 2 MVFC games because of pick 6's?

Probably what we need is a QB transfer, like JMU's Vad Lee.

Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: YSUGO on October 25, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
What pisses me off it seems like any QB after Ryan seems to never improve.  Wells from Last year to what we have this year is a different QB.  He seemed to go threw his reads better and not lock on like he has done this year. 
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
All you need to know right here...

Steve Wilaj ‏@steve_wilaj  15h15 hours ago

Interesting on halfback-pass call to end game. While Wells said he supported OC Montgomery's call, Pelini: "I don't feel good about it."
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 25, 2015, 02:31:10 PM
Last year I thought Wells was going to be one of the greats.  I thought that going into this season.  I thought Hess peaked early.  I thought one of his best games was his first against Penn State. There was a pick 6 in the Fargodome (I think the season after we won in the Fdome) and he seemed to have lost his mojo ever since.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2015, 03:35:53 PM
All you need to know right here...

Steve Wilaj ‏@steve_wilaj  15h15 hours ago

Interesting on halfback-pass call to end game. While Wells said he supported OC Montgomery's call, Pelini: "I don't feel good about it."

It is a trick play ...who is going to feel good about it? We want to know if #20 saw that he had the 1st-down on the ground?

There is not as much work needed on this team as many think, but it will require some new bodies and the return of some old ones. Mainly more depth up front and some "thunder to go with our lightning". Although when Ruiz was hitting hard early, he had success.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2015, 04:06:11 PM
All you need to know right here...

Steve Wilaj ‏@steve_wilaj  15h15 hours ago

Interesting on halfback-pass call to end game. While Wells said he supported OC Montgomery's call, Pelini: "I don't feel good about it."

It is a trick play ...who is going to feel good about it? We want to know if #20 saw that he had the 1st-down on the ground?

There is not as much work needed on this team as many think, but it will require some new bodies and the return of some old ones. Mainly more depth up front and some "thunder to go with our lightning". Although when Ruiz was hitting hard early, he had success.

He's talking about the play call. Throwing Montgomery under the bus as he should. Joke.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 25, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
What makes it hard is we should be 5-2... Guess it could be worse... Could be a browns fan!!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2015, 06:27:08 PM
No we shouldn't Buddy as Montgomery is not capable of fielding a team that is 5-2 ...as 05 and Nation, they know everything about it. Yet neither one of them will analyze a drive or say a word about how terrible our defense has been for going on 6-years. First we have to hear about how boring coach M's offense is and now we need to hear that he is too exciting.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 25, 2015, 06:56:13 PM
Hey I am not singling anyone out.  Just want to see them win and when they play well enough to do it then give it away it is tough..
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2015, 07:50:49 PM
No we shouldn't Buddy as Montgomery is not capable of fielding a team that is 5-2 ...as 05 and Nation, they know everything about it. Yet neither one of them will analyze a drive or say a word about how terrible our defense has been for going on 6-years. First we have to hear about how boring coach M's offense is and now we need to hear that he is too exciting.

He's neither. He's just not a very good play caller. Associated somehow with being a good OC because he "coached" Big Ben... Laughable.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 25, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
There's two different ways to look at the YSU drive that started with 5:06 in the 4th and up by 3. First off I was very surprised to see Ricky in on 1st down considering the hot hand Hunter was having at the time. 1st down rush by Davis for 1yard (SIU was expecting that play) Ruiz 2nd down rush 0 yards..So that puts your Qb in a 3rd and 9 situation. SIU dials up a blitz and forces a hurry. My thought is let Wells start the series and let him throw on first or 2nd down. IMO that series was way to conservative considering what happened to your defense the series before. But then again if your shane you have to trust that your special teams can get off a big punt and your defense can come up big and hold. I can't answer the reason why Ricky didn't attempt a pass. But if that is the case he would be perfect in a combination HB/TE role..I really thought they would go that direction last year
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2015, 09:03:46 PM
I have nothing against what you said Buddy, I am just tired a hearing the same old nonsense from 05. I guess we need basketball point totals. Hey let's go ahead a fire coach M and put in coach Slocum. Then you get both of your wishes 05. Oh wait. 100-points per game is not always going to be enough.

Fever we cannot do as you suggest because that is what Montgomery does every series ...just ask 05 or Nation.

Ignoring the sarcasm, Wells was hot deep down field only because the SIU defense stopped running in circles to confuse his target passing. Had we gone downfield like that with a lead, then I would have asked for Montgomery's head. He did the smart thing and put in our 3 best runners in Ruiz, Kuntz and Davis.

Back to the sarcasm ...Besides 05 and Nation are not even going to mention how we were only up by 3, when were just up by 11 (not 10) 20-seconds earlier. That must have been the time that Monty grabbed Carl's headset and started calling the defense.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: Buddy on October 25, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
Yeah.. I am not complaining about the coaches.  just want them to win
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: penguinpower on October 26, 2015, 06:09:52 AM
The play calling on offense has been questionable.  When it is time to get first downs and chew up the clock we run the ball up the middle against teams that we haven't shown success running against.  Special teams kills us because we then kick a 19 yard punt.  Then the defense gets the opposing offense in a 3rd and 18 and we blitz them and they throw a screen.

The issue for me is that yes you will give up big plays here and there on defense but the offense cannot keep putting the defense in unwinnable situations with turnovers.  And when the OC feels he needs to score, instead of using the mobile 2nd string QB, he used a tailback to throw the ball.  That doesn't male sense to me.  The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the 2nd string QB is not permitted to make any throws and he can only run the same play every time.  So we basically telegraph what we are going to do when he is in there.

Our QB has regressed in in second year out of high school.  That tells me that either his high school QB coach is better than his college coach or we don't have a good QB coach.  His footwork is poor, he locks on to one receiver, and he doesn't step up unto the pocket like he did last year.  He is not as patient either.

I've said it before.  I just don't think Montgomery has the brains to be a good OC.  If I can see this as a fan, I can only imagine how lucky other coaches feel about playing us as the year goes on.  By the time we hit the middle of October, there is nothing new to defend and opposing teams put in their defense based on our formations, personnel packages, and down and distance.  I know 98% of the time where the play is going and what play is being run based on those 3 factors.  We function in the dim range on offense.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ScarletRook on October 26, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
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The play calling on offense has been questionable.  When it is time to get first downs and chew up the clock we run the ball up the middle against teams that we haven't shown success running against.  Special teams kills us ...
The offense cannot keep putting the defense in unwinnable situations with turnovers. 
Or consecutive 3 and outs!

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the 2nd string QB is not permitted to make any throws and he can only run the same play every time.  So we basically telegraph what we are going to do when he is in there.

Our QB has regressed in in second year out of high school.  That tells me that either his high school QB coach is better than his college coach or we don't have a good QB coach.  His footwork is poor, he locks on to one receiver, and he doesn't step up unto the pocket like he did last year.  He is not as patient either.

By the time we hit the middle of October, there is nothing new to defend and opposing teams put in their defense based on our formations, personnel packages, and down and distance. 

Well stated, but don't expect a lot of agreement.
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 26, 2015, 09:56:33 AM


Fever we cannot do as you suggest because that is what Montgomery does every series


Every great O.C. needs creative play calling that is not predictable and must trust in his players to make plays. I respect Shane's philosophy and he does a very good job of mixing and matching. IMO we have generated enough offense in the 4 losses and could be sitting at 6-1 or 5-2 if some other things were to go our way. But I really like the fact they showed confidence in Hunter after the pick and he responded. My point is shane should've done it again in that series. It does nothing for your quarterback's confidence and makes the 3rd down throw that much more difficult. Even the SIU cheerleaders knew what was coming on 1st with Ricky. You can't afford a wasted down in that situation it's just to important
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: ysubigred on October 26, 2015, 10:08:59 AM
Well as things have turned out I can't defend anything going on this year with this football team. As I thought YSU has a few good player on both sides of the ball but after that the talent pool drops drastically. I've pounded the coaches but I believe the whole team is bad  :-X

Better luck next year!

YBR OUT!
Title: Re: Penguin Game Day (at SIU)
Post by: IAA Fan on October 26, 2015, 03:14:48 PM
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The play calling on offense has been questionable.  When it is time to get first downs and chew up the clock we run the ball up the middle against teams that we haven't shown success running against.  Special teams kills us ...
The offense cannot keep putting the defense in unwinnable situations with turnovers. 
Or consecutive 3 and outs!

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the 2nd string QB is not permitted to make any throws and he can only run the same play every time.  So we basically telegraph what we are going to do when he is in there.

Our QB has regressed in in second year out of high school.  That tells me that either his high school QB coach is better than his college coach or we don't have a good QB coach.  His footwork is poor, he locks on to one receiver, and he doesn't step up unto the pocket like he did last year.  He is not as patient either.

By the time we hit the middle of October, there is nothing new to defend and opposing teams put in their defense based on our formations, personnel packages, and down and distance. 

Well stated, but don't expect a lot of agreement.

I think he will get a lot of agreement. Everyone should question calls made this year and every year; but I am saying do not stick to calls on offense. Our offense has been the only (I mean ONLY) thing working here the past 5+ years.

 Our team is giving up 5-9 yards on first down, yet we play zone on second down all the time. We were at 4th an one, we safety-blitzed out of a zone coverage scheme. They burned us with a 70-yard TD pass to a TB that had not been in the game prior? On that fake FG ...even a sports idiot like me saw it coming & it was only because the TE missed the catch that they did not complete it. The ball was in his hands. Use Montgomery's knowledge to help this team, do not drop the only bright spot we have.