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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: ysufan0505 on September 03, 2014, 12:11:59 PM
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I'm looking for a close game on Saturday. Duquesne gave Buffalo a run for their money and Buffalo is a top MAC football team. They kept it close with us last year until about late in the 3rd qtr. I really want to see improvement from Nania and the passing game but who knows. Here's to hoping our defense can continue on the good fortune they had last week...
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Yep, it was 59-17. We were really sweating it. They even were Co-Champs in their league .
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Trying to remember - was it last year's Duquense game that we got burned so bad by the slant passes? <I know, it wasn't the only game> I would think that style of quick drop and pass out of the shotgun would be very difficult to attack with just our front 4. At least on LB's aren't playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage this year.
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Duquesne is picked to finish 2nd behind Sacred Heart in the NEC this year. Buffalo was picked to finish 4th in the 7 team MAC East in 2014.
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Yep, it was 59-17. We were really sweating it. They even were Co-Champs in their league .
It was 24-14 late in the 3rd quarter... Like i said
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Woulda been nice to have Boardman grad Zach Zidian on our D-Line.... 6-1, 325 DT. Exactly what we needed last year and continue to need. Always thought we missed out on him recruiting him outta high school. Guy dominated us last year before getting injured during the game.
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I just dont think that they will be able to stop our running attack....pound pound pound with 4 different fresh backs and nania....time of possession will be really in our favor and when you can run it at them it takes the fight out of anyone. We did it to Illinois for the better part of the game. Thats why that moronic call on the fake punt/run was so costly...we shouldve just run it right at them or passed off of a play fake...that call basically turned the whole game around...I know folks wont want to hear it and I used to gripe about his conservative nature but we win the Illinois game with Tressel...no doubt in my mind
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05 This was a close one last year as you mentioned. While we were up 24-0 at half...2 of our TD drives were 30 yards and 37 yards. I can't recall if this was due to turnovers or poor Special Teams on Duquesne's end. It quickly became 24-14 before we got up and running again late in the 3rd.
We had a great day running the football and held them to only 39 yards on 27 attempts. However, they threw for 371 yards...far beyond what we should have allowed them. During this game we also were still trying to determine our #1 RB. Up to this point in the season carries had been split between Ruiz, Webb, Pace, Bellamy, etc. We now know our #1 and can utilize other RBs as needed.
No over looking and no let downs!
Z
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I just dont think that they will be able to stop our running attack....pound pound pound with 4 different fresh backs and nania....time of possession will be really in our favor and when you can run it at them it takes the fight out of anyone. We did it to Illinois for the better part of the game. Thats why that moronic call on the fake punt/run was so costly...we shouldve just run it right at them or passed off of a play fake...that call basically turned the whole game around...I know folks wont want to hear it and I used to gripe about his conservative nature but we win the Illinois game with Tressel...no doubt in my mind
Wolf is just not a good game manager. Calling early timeouts and making wrong decisions on plays and strategy. Beside the butt punt, i recall that he called a timeout to set up the defense for one of the Illinois plays. The result was a blown coverage in the secondary resulting in a TD. Call a timeout to set up that defense.....are you kidding me?
The young Illinois QB was having a difficult time (afraid to make mistakes) throwing passes close to their goal line.
If we would have punted the ball pinning them deep near the goal line, they might not have scored the TD. We gave them the ball at our 25 yard line. The QB was more comfortable in passing the ball near the red zone. The rest is history.....
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If you took a SERIOUS look at last years game, they (YSU) played EVERYONE. The game was never in doubt. EVER !We had 3rd string moving the ball on their 1st team. The weenie games were the ONLY games many of the players got into last year. Check Bios if you don't believe it. The first team played sparingly the second half.
Don't make Duquesne out to be the second coming of Goliath. They'll fall easy enough without being blown up like some Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon.
They'll be in this game till the coin flip ! ;D
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I cant imagine that they have the depth to deal with 2 physical games back-to-back? No doubt they will come to play as its a BIG game for them.
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I cant imagine that they have the depth to deal with 2 physical games back-to-back? No doubt they will come to play as its a BIG game for them.
i am sure they will throw the ball to take advantage of our poor secondary especially with the crossing pattern which our safeties have never able to read or cover.
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YSU 38
Dukes 21
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YSU 31
Dukes 17
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Well... you both have it at a tighter game than Vegas (YSU -21).
The weather forecast keeps getting better.
I'd like to think that we can reach 300 yards rushing and not give up 300 yards passing.
Z
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YSU 38
Duquesne 10
Defense shows up.
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We are way bigger and faster than Duquesne.
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Did you think we wouldn't be? Watching paint dry would be more exciting.
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They gave Buffalo a game so I wasn't sure. .....hence the reason the games are played
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The team we had in the first quarter was way superior to the one we put in in the fourth! ::) What a sloppy effort. VERY disappointing!
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What a nightmare game, wow. Get ready Mr. Wells, yikes.....
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9-3? I'm thinking MAYBE 7-5. I'm at a loss for words with the teams of the last 4+ years. I just don't understand!!!
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7-5 sounds about right. Word is that Nania has a sprained right ankle. The offense is so predictable, the defense plays well for stretches but still has breakdowns due to #1 and #8 in the secondary. Sick of watching those guys get toasted game after game and being out of position.
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0505...I've wondered for 2 years now why #1 is even on the field. He does do one thing with great consistency......gets burned. I'm not convinced this team will even sniff the playoffs this year. I know, I know...it is early. But wasn't this a "weenie" game??? Yep, they gave Buffalo a run for their money too. YSU is up 28-0 at one point. Then all hell breaks loose...UGH.
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Strickland is out for the 1st half next week because of the punch he threw. Better get these injuries healed up...... Nate Dortch, Childs, Eric Thompson AND DJ Thomas all injured, all defensive backs.... Wolf also said transfer Kenneth Durden from South Florida cannot play right now because of transfer paper issues from USF. We need him asap
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The "weenie" game was the first half. I have no idea who played the second half. Also that was the worst home opener crowd I've ever seen here. Lots of thoughts on this game and they are all bad, lol.
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During his tenure here, Wofford has done, for the most part, an excellent job with scouting and game preparation. We have played some very good first halves. Then that evil thing happens....it is called halftime. Is there a worse game day coach in this country than Wofford? Does any coach make worse halftime adjustments, or fail to anticipate the changes that our opponents will throw at us when play resumes? Does any coach do a worse job at forcing his players to remain focused and motivated when we are ahead? It is a darned shame too. I had hoped that as he entered his fifth season as a head coach Wofford would improve in these essential features. No such luck.
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Listen he is not a head coach for many reasons. I will give him credit on recruiting good talent and getting ready for a game, but you have to play 4 qtrs and play and act like a team all the time. His sideline behavior is an embarrassment not to mention his time management (lack of). I hope for 8-4 but think 7-5 is more like it. Pay him the 100K buyout and send him back to the SEC. We wont miss his family tailgating in M24, that's for sure. They act like they own the place. He had 5 years and the team isn't any better.
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Issue at hand is complacency. Why on earth did we become so complacent up 28-0? That one falls on the coaches. They knew Duquesne came back last week down 21-0 and they knew Duquesne came back last year after we went up big.
I'm not happy with the performance, but the first quarter showed our potential, which is we can be pretty darn good. The final three quarters proved that you CANNOT play down to your opponents level like we did. It is a theme under Wolford of playing up (Illinois) or down (Duquesne) to your opponent.
I was with a former player who won a title in the 90s and even he sensed the crowd and the bench become way too relaxed and complacent early in the 2nd quarter.
As coaches, you need to light a fire under your players when you go up big. They did the exact opposite.
They better address this complacency issue over these next two weeks because the Valley looks very good this year. Thus far we are undefeated against FCS teams.
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Everyone needs to understand that these 3 "weenie" games are the EASIEST ones on the schedule. Next week its non-scholly Butler who struggled to beat D-III Wittenberg 22-16. Duquesne should have been a cake walk and the opening half at 31-7 was the evidence.
I have already said YSU will look good in beating these 3 teams, but only from a winning standpoint. The warts are going to show even as we win and I'm afraid the MVFC will be salivating again for penguin steak. Other teams will see what we see, even though they are trying not to open the playbook and expose all the O & D.
I thought the play calling was atrocious the second half and not an improvement in the Dukes D. Conversely, our D was exposed with the flaws in the secondary flashing ugly. All this against what should have been a cupcake game. Not a good omen.
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I want to raise the point of the lack of discipline seen from the Penguins versus Duquesne. Here's some examples:
(1) Too many off-the-ball penalties, a couple of which set up scoring opportunities for the Dukes. A discipline team has self control.
(2) Poor calling of timeouts, due partially to players who didn't know what they were supposed to do.
(3) Problems defending kick returns. Usually this is a lack of discipline, i.e., players leaving their lanes.
A well coached team doesn't make these mistakes. Makes you wonder what they do in practice.
Also, Childs is playing too deep. W. actually defended him saying that playing behind the WR keeps the opponents from getting a big play. However, Childs is so far off the receiver that he can't defend short and intermediate range passes. This is coaching--Childs has been playing the position long enough he should know what to do. You could predict
By the way, we lucked out. Three of Duquesne's first four possessions in the first quarter ended with a third-down play in which the QB did not connect with an open receiver. Those mistakes disappeared in the second half. If Duquesne had connected in first quarter, the outcome would have been very different.
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I want to raise the point of the lack of discipline seen from the Penguins versus Duquesne. Here's some examples:
(1) Too many off-the-ball penalties, a couple of which set up scoring opportunities for the Dukes. A discipline team has self control.
(2) Poor calling of timeouts, due partially to players who didn't know what they were supposed to do.
(3) Problems defending kick returns. Usually this is a lack of discipline, i.e., players leaving their lanes.
A well coached team doesn't make these mistakes. Makes you wonder what they do in practice.
Also, Childs is playing too deep. W. actually defended him saying that playing behind the WR keeps the opponents from getting a big play. However, Childs is so far off the receiver that he can't defend short and intermediate range passes. This is coaching--Childs has been playing the position long enough he should know what to do. You could predict
By the way, we lucked out. Three of Duquesne's first four possessions in the first quarter ended with a third-down play in which the QB did not connect with an open receiver. Those mistakes disappeared in the second half. If Duquesne had connected in first quarter, the outcome would have been very different.
Childs plays off because if he plays press, he gets beat..... Every. Single. Time.