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Title: Losing season
Post by: paladin on October 26, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
Boy, I hate to admit it, but I was wrong..... WAY wrong in pre-season when I projected YSU to go 7-4. Its rare that I miss and the record here reflects  my picks over the years being right most of the time. This year, the team was loaded with talent and SUPPOSEDLY getting   a "great" coach. What could go wrong ? Right ? 

I now view this season finishing with a losing record, 5-6 and may be worse. QB problems ( as I predicted), a D that isn't as good as advertised, injuries on the OL and coaching "questionable".  The league remains a meat grinder and YSU is lucky they played the   weenies early. It could have gotten real ugly. May yet still.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 26, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
I also predicted 7-4 with losses to Pitt, ISUr, SDSU, and NDSU prior to the season.  I thought SDSU was a win after the ISUr game, tho.  Now I agree that 5-6 is very likely as they may split the last four games.

I suppose that w/ the MEAC not fielding playoff teams, a 6-5 could conceivably get in...but doubt it.

It's amazing how accurate Massey is....who has been spot on and predicted a 3-5 MVFC record and has been perfect so far.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: ysubigred on October 26, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Boy, I hate to admit it, but I was wrong..... WAY wrong in pre-season when I projected YSU to go 7-4. Its rare that I miss and the record here reflects  my picks over the years being right most of the time. This year, the team was loaded with talent and SUPPOSEDLY getting   a "great" coach. What could go wrong ? Right ? 

I now view this season finishing with a losing record, 5-6 and may be worse. QB problems ( as I predicted), a D that isn't as good as advertised, injuries on the OL and coaching "questionable".  The league remains a meat grinder and YSU is lucky they played the   weenies early. It could have gotten real ugly. May yet still.

LOL!! You are full of sh**! There is NO talent on this team. 5 years of overrated athletes with no football smarts. YSU has a few good players on both sides of the ball after that probably not even DII.

Stick to predicting not talent evaluation.. That's all,, Carry on  ;)
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 26, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
Wolford was 15-9 over his last two seasons and left B.P. and his staff plenty to be successful with this season. Bo even said it himself. If he didn't like it he had every opportunity to change it. I refuse to give B.P. a free pass and accept it as a rebuilding year. There have been plenty of first year coaches that have turned very poor programs into contenders the first year. With the history and tradition at YSU this is not acceptable 
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: ysubigred on October 26, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
Wolford was 15-9 over his last two seasons and left B.P. and his staff plenty to be successful with this season. Bo even said it himself. If he didn't like it he had every opportunity to change it. I refuse to give B.P. a free pass and accept it as a rebuilding year. There have been plenty of first year coaches that have turned very poor programs into contenders the first year. With the history and tradition at YSU this is not acceptable

This is a great point ^^ "BUT" I believe that YSU is full of great kids but not great football players,, just not DI MVFC types. The whole culture will need to change to blue collar, hard hitting, smash mouth football and leave the fancy finesse behind.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: paladin on October 26, 2015, 04:18:06 PM
If there is NO talent on this team, how do you expect to beat NDSU, win out and go to the playoffs ? The players of the last two years with winning records is suddenly "dogmeat" ?

Keep drinking, Red. You never knew sh!t to begin with, but are sure funny when drunk !
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 26, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
It's gonna take a couple years for Bo to hopefully turn this thing around. To get more football players in here than athletes who want to to play football as Wolf did. The offense needs to change, goodbye Bricillo and Montgomery. Has to be done.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: go guins on October 26, 2015, 05:01:56 PM
Tressel took over a team with a winning record and went 2-9 first year.  It often takes time to get the roster sorted out.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 26, 2015, 08:11:45 PM
Still if you take Pitt and Illinois St. down to the wire believe me you have talent. Penguins gameday tonight Bo admitted to having a cultural problem on his team. Maybe I was reading it wrong but he really seemed to point the finger at his players and very little if any at his staff..but at the same token took full responsibility for his teams play
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: ysubigred on October 27, 2015, 08:17:19 AM
If there is NO talent on this team, how do you expect to beat NDSU, win out and go to the playoffs ? The players of the last two years with winning records is suddenly "dogmeat" ?

Keep drinking, Red. You never knew sh!t to begin with, but are sure funny when drunk !

1st off I'd like to offer an apology for misspeaking. I said "NO" talent,, what I meant to say is "LIMITED" talent.

2nd I never claimed to know sh**,, this is still better than being full of sh**  ;D

I can't help it you have such a hard on for the AD and "good ole boy" system you claim is here at YSU that you trash anything wrong with YSU. Use your "self-claim" to football knowledge and be constructive to the cause not destructive.

Have a great day and drink on!!
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: paladin on October 27, 2015, 01:08:33 PM
LOL ! "Cultural" problem ?. Cmon, Fever , tell us what you really think ,  ;D

The players here have talent. The players were under a strict discipline coach before. Bo is supposed to be a "big time" coach. Experienced, all knowing, a player's coach.

I see major problems coming.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 28, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
I really think Bo Pelini will be the next football coach at the University of Minnesota and he will take the majority of his staff with him to replace Jerry Kill who just decided to step down 😨
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 28, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
I think 4 BIG teams (Rut, MN, IL, and MD) all have interim HCs.  I think he would've grabbed a NFL or P5 job if he wanted to before coming to YSU.  He never had to come here, but rather wanted to.  I think he likes JT being the Prez, and appreciates that support after having conflicts with administration at NE. Strollo is a moron and an incompetent, but he likely doesn't antagonize BP.  BP is getting well paid through the 2018 season, and after that he will be gone. 

Having had lived there for ~9 years, MN is a miserable place to live for a multitude of reasons, and would make Lincoln NE seem paradise.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: paladin on October 28, 2015, 02:24:23 PM
I visited Minneapolis/St. Paul in the winter as a student and only thing happening was hooking up with local nursing students (very good memories there), snow up to your shoulders  and lots of rot  gut bars with no class. Ugly scene but with some benefits, ;D

Bo collects a big check monthly, coaching or not, successful or not till 2019. Lots of "desire" to do well.  ::)

You may be right Fever. Who knows.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 28, 2015, 04:52:18 PM
It will be attractive to whomever. With a 190 million athletic upgrade in place and a top 25 class in place why not? I believe kills current salary is 2.5 mill plus bonuses. What better way to stick it to Shawn Eichorst. While not an easy university to recruit from Bo could have a distinct advantage from his time at Nebraska
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: penguinpower on October 28, 2015, 06:45:05 PM
I really think Bo Pelini will be the next football coach at the University of Minnesota and he will take the majority of his staff with him to replace Jerry Kill who just decided to step down 😨


How do we go from:" Bo wants to be here" and "Bo wanted to come back and send his kids to Mooney" and "Bo wants to coach under an administration that will support him"?  Now at the drop of a hat, he is ready to take another job.  I don't get it.  He hasn't been here a year.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: IAA Fan on October 28, 2015, 10:32:25 PM
I think that you have a better chance of seeing Jim Tressel take the job. There was discussion before that the NCAA would grant coach T just cause to temporarily coach at Minnesota, because of Kill's cancer treatments. Then JT would just stay on. I heard from reliable source that the NCAA was not "buying" it 2 years ago. Who knows about now?
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: go guins on October 29, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I don't see any way either BP or JT takes that job.  Bo gets Nebraska money for coaching 1-AA (team not coaching our blogger 1-AA!)  JT will retire as President of YSU.  Coaching second level Big10 FB or BB is a nightmare.  Good grief, they both WON in the Big 10 and got fired, they aren't going back and lose!  It would take years to build MN to contend.  BP will get YSU in playoffs a couple times and when contract up, will take a power 5 job with a 500 or better team.  Only job JT would even consider would be running against Brown for the US Senate, and that's a real possibility but he isn't going back to the sidelines. 
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 29, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
I don't see Bo going anywhere until the Nebraska money runs out.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 29, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
My 5 year prediction:

BP......HC at a P5 program.

JT......Senator or Governor.

Carl P.......HC at YSU (unless HC in 2016 at Akron after Terry Bowden's firing...it would be the most sensible thing  Akron has ever done).
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: go guins on October 29, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
My 5 year prediction:

BP......HC at a P5 program.

JT......Senator or Governor.

Carl P.......HC at YSU (unless HC in 2016 at Akron after Terry Bowden's firing...it would be the most sensible thing  Akron has ever done).

BP, I can see that.  3 years in playoffs should get P5 job. 

I would LOVE JT as governor.  Senate may take too long, but he'd be good there too.

CP at YSU isn't impossible since you are right, Akron hardly ever does anything right and this would be right.

RE: T Bowden.  My dad was a great carpenter.  I can't build a damn thing.  Bowden's dad was a great coach, but Terry's coaching skills rivals my construction skills! 
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: Blo Pelini on October 29, 2015, 04:46:30 PM
My 5 year prediction:

BP......HC at a P5 program.

JT......Senator or Governor.

Carl P.......HC at YSU (unless HC in 2016 at Akron after Terry Bowden's firing...it would be the most sensible thing  Akron has ever done).

Carl will not be the HC at YSU ever.  He is a liability nightmare. See FAU.  He was applying for high school coaching jobs in the mid-west and wouldn't even get an interview.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 29, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
My 5 year prediction:

BP......HC at a P5 program.

JT......Senator or Governor.

Carl P.......HC at YSU (unless HC in 2016 at Akron after Terry Bowden's firing...it would be the most sensible thing  Akron has ever done).





Carl will not be the HC at YSU ever.  He is a liability nightmare. See FAU.  He was applying for high school coaching jobs in the mid-west and wouldn't even get an interview.

At FAU, where the University president cleared Carl of drug use, and where Carl offered to immediately take a urine drug screen, and where all of his urine drug screens were negative?

Worst case scenario, if he did drugs (again...zero evidence he did), if it wasn't affecting his job performance, then I couldn't care less.  Seriously...why care...drug prohibition is idiotic anyway.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/mar/28/redemption-road/

The only thing about Carl that concerns me is his 5-15 record at FAU.  However, that is a big improvement over the 1-11/0-8 record of Howard Schnellenberger's last season in 2011 (as an aside, I was at the dedication of the stadium last year which was cool).  Plus, during Carl's second season, they upgraded conferences from the Sun Belt to CUSA.  The rest of his record as DC at NE and at OU is impressive.

Carl would be an asset to any program.
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 30, 2015, 09:45:03 AM
Carl as the next head coach at YSU..Thanks but know thanks. He's lucky to still have a job after that all out blitz call up 11.. I wasn't surprised Bo defended that play call on his radio show but I was disappointed he swept his players under the bus for not picking up the back out of the backfield..one to many meltdowns Defensively this season and I don't feel it's all on the players
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 30, 2015, 10:40:53 AM
BTW the Guins are ranked 5th in all of FCS for fewest penalties committed. We would probably be first if we didn't take such screwing by the refs against Illinois st. This tells me one thing we do have smart players ☺
Title: Re: Losing season
Post by: go guins on October 30, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
BTW the Guins are ranked 5th in all of FCS for fewest penalties committed. We would probably be first if we didn't take such screwing by the refs against Illinois st. This tells me one thing we do have smart players ☺
  OR players that aren't aggressive enough!  Historically, there isn't much correlation between penalties and won/loss percentage, also interceptions usually same way.  With the exception of the freak in NE, the NFL list of interceptions doesn't match win loss very closely.  Aggressiveness more important the just penalties.  I'm fine with penalties of commission, not omission. Raw stats don't show them that way.