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Is now available online at SI.com. As far as YSU goes, pretty much just rehashes the Ray Isaac/Mickey Monus situation, although it indicates Monus may have employed several YSU players. Disgruntaled former YSU Prez Leslie Cockroach is quoted as saying Tressel was deceitful--well moron, you were his boss, you should have done something about it. Cockroach was the George Bush of YSU presidents, inept. The overall picture painted of Tressel is not good.
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Sounds like the only "new" is Tressel fixing a few of Isaac's traffic tickets. I think if that is all that comes out about YSU as this thing goes on we should feel very grateful.
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Is now available online at SI.com. As far as YSU goes, pretty much just rehashes the Ray Isaac/Mickey Monus situation, although it indicates Monus may have employed several YSU players. Disgruntaled former YSU Prez Leslie Cockroach is quoted as saying Tressel was deceitful--well moron, you were his boss, you should have done something about it. Cockroach was the George Bush of YSU presidents, inept. The overall picture painted of Tressel is not good.
Thinking that George Bush was inept, that's funny.
Read the article, I think that JT is just a very smart person, knows how to create the correct image of himself for most eyes and also knows how to play the system in the backrooms. And yes he can also coach pretty well.
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Guinpen-I want some of what you're smoking 8)
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They are now after Pryor, and his suspension is supposed to come tomorrow. Two cars.
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Using this thread to attack President Bush. Pathetic.
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Using this thread to attack President Bush. Pathetic.
It's what Democrats do. It is their purpose in life. Obama does no wrong. Bush is one of the few ex-presidents to defer to the current prez's agenda without the bashing comments. (See Carter, see Clinton).
Totally disgusted with the state of politics and administration in this so-called "valley" (there can't be a "valley" without mountains as a very sage person once told me).
If the middle east eventually becomes mostly democratic (and the signs are huge that is going to happen), then Bush's efforts at the start of that insurrection will have his legacy as one of the greatest achievements of the modern world.
He spent way more than he should have but that was throwing bones in the direction of lunatic left wingers, especially Dodd and Frank. W was way too liberal, not a true Reagan conservative.
Look out when Obama gets booted, or even term-limited--You will find a new wave of fiscal conservatism that will make your head spin, because there is NO DOUBT the president that follows Obama will be a Conservative Republican.
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Look--I could care less about politics (seriously) but my reference is to CNN article dated 1/18/09 which, in the last days of Bush's presidency, showed a poll of American people (both parties) showing 68% feeling Bush's 8 years in office as a failure and 31% viewing it as a success. So it ain't just me folks. The analogy was to show the comparative presidencies of Cochran and Bush, IN MY OPINION. No politics involved.
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They are now after Pryor, and his suspension is supposed to come tomorrow. Two cars.
I do not recall the make/model, but I guess that Pryor showed up to some meeting in a nice one, talk show host made the comment that Pryor must know he was done so he did not care if he was shown driving it.
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There was film on ESPN last night of TP driving a 300Z AND rolling through a red light.
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Did you guys hear Ray Isaac on ESPN radio yesterday? Very interesting quotes:
“Jim Tressel is as good a man as you’ll ever meet. It’s almost to the point where it’s hokey; you would think he is phony, but he is not. Jim Tressel is like the person you want to be when you grow up. He’s always treated me like a son.”
“The article is a big lie ... I’m very displeased with the article. The article is chewed up. If you look at the paragraph that goes into what I was allegedly to have said, it is poorly written. It doesn’t give any facts or clarity. It almost looked like he read 50 articles of the Jim Tressel/Ray Isaac situation and mixed them all together and then wrote a paragraph because he could not get any words out of my mouth.”
"Number one, I'm totally responsible for what I did at Youngstown State University. Every year, from the time I was on campus, from '88 to '91, Tressel had compliance seminars — not to deal with bookies, not to deal with drugs, not to deal with not buying or selling anything. I knew exactly what I was getting into when I met [booster] Mickey Monus. It is implied that on the first meeting that I had with Mickey Monus that I received $150. That is the biggest lie ever told. … Jim Tressel never ever knew anything about our dealings. I kept it secret. To say Coach Tressel knew about this car, or knew about this money, listen, the only way that anyone knew about the money I received was Mickey Monus got indicted on $1.1 million worth of embezzlement and fraud. In documents and public record, they found checks that were written to me. … That's the only way that this situation came to light. … Other than that, no one in the history of the world would have known the Mickey Monus paid me a dime."
Hew went on to call Epstein a liar.
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Yeah, and now former Prez Cockroach is saying his quotes were taken out of context as well. When the heat is on, these guys are backpedaling faster than Deion Sanders. They probably said these things, but now don't want to own up to them.
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IP,
Perhaps you are correct. Isaac and Cochran certainly have credibility issues. However, contemporary journalists have been known to misquote and fabricate in order to conform to their preconceived agenda.
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Wick-According to Bobby Knight the only thing the media can quote accurately is silence.
It will also be interesting to see all the NCAA violations OSU gets from this. I am sure there will be seasons forfeited, scholarships losts, and probably NO bowl games. Not even thinking about the death penalty
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This was nothing but a witch hunt..SI and all the other reporters have agendas..its not about quoting the facts and reporting as such...plus that SI article seemed like they really didnt or couldnt dig up any dirt new dirt so they piled on the crap...as for Cochran..he was a joke..everytime i drive by Penguin Place or whatever its called i think of what a waste that guy was ...as for Ray..and what he did ..old news ..
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Clarett says athletes to blame, not Ohio State
By RUSTY MILLER, AP College Football Writer
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP)—Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett blames athletes rather than coaches and fans for the culture that created problems in the Buckeyes’ football program.
“There’s no secret regime, there’s no secret congregation of people who sit around at Ohio State who gives young guys money,” Clarett said Wednesday on The Dan Patrick Show. “Anything that any player goes and gets is all based on him and who he meets in the community. The coaches and the university have no control over what the young guy’s doing.”
The NCAA is investigating Ohio State players who allegedly received improper benefits and special deals on cars. Five players have been suspended for the first five games this fall for trading signed jerseys, championship rings and other items for cash and discounted tattoos from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.
January 4, 2011: Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor (2) stands in the confetti shower behind the trophy after winninng the NCAA Sugar Bowl game between the Arkansas Razorbacks and The Ohio State Buckeyes at The Louisianna Superdome, New Orleans LA (Cal Sports Media via AP Images)
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Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel was forced to resign last week for knowing about the players’ involvement but not reporting it as required by his contract and NCAA rules. Star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, one of those suspended and a subject of the NCAA probe, announced Tuesday that he would not return for his senior season.
Clarett, ruled ineligible after carrying Ohio State to its first national championship in 34 years in 2002, said the university cannot control everything that players do.
“There wasn’t any coach or any booster or any member in or around Ohio State who helps you get a car,” Clarett said, recalling his own time on campus. “It doesn’t go on. It’s just guys doing what they want to. People will forever do what they want to. It’s nothing more than young guys making mistakes.”
Clarett questioned the foundation of big-time college football, where universities and coaches make millions off athletes yet the players get in trouble with the NCAA for accepting cash for autographs or memorabilia.
“Why are they even in that position? Why is it that a university can profit $20 million, $30 million, $40 million and these guys are in the position that they have to sell their memorabilia—the only thing they have of value at that point?” Clarett said. “Why are they even in that position to do that, when there’s enough money to go around?”
Once an elite running back recruit, Clarett seized the starting tailback job before the 2002 season opener and caught the nation’s attention when he piled up 230 yards rushing in a victory over Washington State—still the sixth-highest single-game total in school history.
Despite nagging injuries, Clarett continued to play well as Ohio State went through the season unbeaten and was selected as the Big Ten’s top freshman.
In the Fiesta Bowl, which served as the Bowl Championship Series national championship, Clarett bulled over the middle in the second overtime for the winning touchdown in No. 2 Ohio State’s dramatic 31-24 upset of top-ranked Miami.
Clarett, who rushed for 1,237 yards in his only season, was suspended the following summer for taking improper benefits, including cars. He never played in another college game.
He did not blame his ineligibility on boosters.
“People didn’t reach out to me. I reached out to people,” he said. “Just when you’re traveling around the community, I reached out to people: ‘Hey, I’m struggling with this. Hey, I need help with this.”’
Clarett sued the NFL to enter the draft before he had been out of high school for three years, but lost on appeal. From there, his life spiraled out of control.
He pleaded guilty in September 2006 to having a gun hidden in his SUV and holding up two people outside a Columbus bar in a separate case. He was sentenced to 7 1/2 years in prison, and was released in early 2010 after serving 3 1/2 years.
Clarett played last year for the Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League.
He accused Ohio State of academic fraud during the investigation spurred by his improper-benefits case in 2003. But on Wednesday, he said he had lied and manipulated the professor to get good grades.
Going to prison had altered his view of the world, Clarett said. Five years ago, he said he might have celebrated that Ohio State and Tressel were going through the NCAA problems they are now. But that isn’t the way he feels.
Clarett also said he did not consider Tressel, who until a few months ago had a squeaky clean image around the country, to be a cheater or a fraud.
“You can’t be a fraud for 30 years. It’s impossible,” he said. “People can smell a fraud in the first month, two, three, four, five months. They’re going to be exposed. To do what that man has done … it’s wrong for that man to get dealt like that.”
Asked where his national championship ring is, Clarett said, “That’s at my mother’s house. There’s not one piece of memorabilia that I don’t have.”
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Clarett says athletes to blame, not Ohio State
By RUSTY MILLER, AP College Football Writer
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP)—Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett blames athletes rather than coaches and fans for the culture that created problems in the Buckeyes’ football program.
“There’s no secret regime, there’s no secret congregation of people who sit around at Ohio State who gives young guys money,” Clarett said Wednesday on The Dan Patrick Show. “Anything that any player goes and gets is all based on him and who he meets in the community. The coaches and the university have no control over what the young guy’s doing.”
The NCAA is investigating Ohio State players who allegedly received improper benefits and special deals on cars. Five players have been suspended for the first five games this fall for trading signed jerseys, championship rings and other items for cash and discounted tattoos from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.
January 4, 2011: Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor (2) stands in the confetti shower behind the trophy after winninng the NCAA Sugar Bowl game between the Arkansas Razorbacks and The Ohio State Buckeyes at The Louisianna Superdome, New Orleans LA (Cal Sports Media via AP Images)
January 4, 2011: Ohio State qu…
AP - Jun 7, 6:05 pm EDT
NCAAF Gallery
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Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel was forced to resign last week for knowing about the players’ involvement but not reporting it as required by his contract and NCAA rules. Star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, one of those suspended and a subject of the NCAA probe, announced Tuesday that he would not return for his senior season.
Clarett, ruled ineligible after carrying Ohio State to its first national championship in 34 years in 2002, said the university cannot control everything that players do.
“There wasn’t any coach or any booster or any member in or around Ohio State who helps you get a car,” Clarett said, recalling his own time on campus. “It doesn’t go on. It’s just guys doing what they want to. People will forever do what they want to. It’s nothing more than young guys making mistakes.”
Clarett questioned the foundation of big-time college football, where universities and coaches make millions off athletes yet the players get in trouble with the NCAA for accepting cash for autographs or memorabilia.
“Why are they even in that position? Why is it that a university can profit $20 million, $30 million, $40 million and these guys are in the position that they have to sell their memorabilia—the only thing they have of value at that point?” Clarett said. “Why are they even in that position to do that, when there’s enough money to go around?”
Once an elite running back recruit, Clarett seized the starting tailback job before the 2002 season opener and caught the nation’s attention when he piled up 230 yards rushing in a victory over Washington State—still the sixth-highest single-game total in school history.
Despite nagging injuries, Clarett continued to play well as Ohio State went through the season unbeaten and was selected as the Big Ten’s top freshman.
In the Fiesta Bowl, which served as the Bowl Championship Series national championship, Clarett bulled over the middle in the second overtime for the winning touchdown in No. 2 Ohio State’s dramatic 31-24 upset of top-ranked Miami.
Clarett, who rushed for 1,237 yards in his only season, was suspended the following summer for taking improper benefits, including cars. He never played in another college game.
He did not blame his ineligibility on boosters.
“People didn’t reach out to me. I reached out to people,” he said. “Just when you’re traveling around the community, I reached out to people: ‘Hey, I’m struggling with this. Hey, I need help with this.”’
Clarett sued the NFL to enter the draft before he had been out of high school for three years, but lost on appeal. From there, his life spiraled out of control.
He pleaded guilty in September 2006 to having a gun hidden in his SUV and holding up two people outside a Columbus bar in a separate case. He was sentenced to 7 1/2 years in prison, and was released in early 2010 after serving 3 1/2 years.
Clarett played last year for the Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League.
He accused Ohio State of academic fraud during the investigation spurred by his improper-benefits case in 2003. But on Wednesday, he said he had lied and manipulated the professor to get good grades.
Going to prison had altered his view of the world, Clarett said. Five years ago, he said he might have celebrated that Ohio State and Tressel were going through the NCAA problems they are now. But that isn’t the way he feels.
Clarett also said he did not consider Tressel, who until a few months ago had a squeaky clean image around the country, to be a cheater or a fraud.
“You can’t be a fraud for 30 years. It’s impossible,” he said. “People can smell a fraud in the first month, two, three, four, five months. They’re going to be exposed. To do what that man has done … it’s wrong for that man to get dealt like that.”
Asked where his national championship ring is, Clarett said, “That’s at my mother’s house. There’s not one piece of memorabilia that I don’t have.”
Seems like Maurice Clarett is growing up and taking responsibility for his actions. Kudos to him.