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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: ytownchief22 on September 03, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
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Home opener!
Howard got beat 79-0 by Maryland last week so who knows what to expect lol.
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We should smash them.
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We should smash them.
I don't care about "smashing them" I want to work on things like our passing game and OL play. These 3 weeks should be practice games tuning up for MVFC competition.
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We should smash them.
I don't care about "smashing them" I want to work on things like our passing game and OL play. These 3 weeks should be practice games tuning up for MVFC competition.
Agreed
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We should smash them.
I don't care about "smashing them" I want to work on things like our passing game and OL play. These 3 weeks should be practice games tuning up for MVFC competition.
However Duquesne may be tricky and they are getting attention for entering the top 25
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Top 25 playing, now get this WALSH?!?!?!?!?
Last season Walsh got wacked by Tiffin and Hillsdale. Giood grief, I'm betting they want Fitch as a big money game!
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We should smash them.
I don't care about "smashing them" I want to work on things like our passing game and OL play. These 3 weeks should be practice games tuning up for MVFC competition.
However Duquesne may be tricky and they are getting attention for entering the top 25
What poll are they top 25? That doesn’t sound right.
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Duquesne is next week. Howard is tomorrow. We are not good enough to overlook anybody. :o
The single thing that impressed me most about our performance against Samford was our attitude and enthusiasm. First and foremost, that is what I want to see tomorrow, along with improvement in all aspects of the special teams.
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We should smash them.
I don't care about "smashing them" I want to work on things like our passing game and OL play. These 3 weeks should be practice games tuning up for MVFC competition.
However Duquesne may be tricky and they are getting attention for entering the top 25
What poll are they top 25? That doesn’t sound right.
They are not in the top 25 yet but they have received 124 votes to be in the Top 25 Vs the 8 votes we have received and if they win this weekend they may enter into the top 25.
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Gameday ladies and gents!
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Gameday ladies and gents!
Yep, leaving for the game in half hour. No repeat of Butler game this year...
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Some things never change as 7 continues to get toasted on D.
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This has Butler written all over it. Unreal.
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Why do we play down to our competition? Wtf
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We look pathetic. Lose this it's a joke
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Just have to keep Newton in the pocket. Spy all game long please.
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Howard is better than I thought.
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Why does #7 play at all? He talks a lot and does not back it up whatsoever. Abused.... Again!
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Sloppy early on. Passing game still leaves a lot to be desired. Couple injuries that have to keep an eye on going forward.
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Howard will put up a lot of yards and points this year. I think I heard the announcers say they went for over 500 yds vs Ohio last season. Their QB would start for us.
Both lines were dominant today. Got to clean up mistakes in the kicking game. YSU Qb's need better accuracy.
Not dissapointed in #7 on his coverage. That might be the best WR he'll play against in his career. That guy was big and athletic.
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Sloppy. Selfish and dumb penalties. Special teams continue to disappoint.
Fix the dumb mistakes and special teams and we can be decent.
That was a good offense we faced and once we decided to contain the QB in the pocket they couldn't do much outside of looking for #81 every pass play.
Our D line is phenomenal.
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Special teams is a big concern.
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Agree on the special teams, extra point and punting, no excuse at our level. Thought that kick coverage was fine. Loved the two long runs, Run Forest Run. Hard to be unhappy when you score 50+. #55 on D had several nice sacks, not so nice when he took a shot at the guy, second one always get caught. Thinking he is a Freshman.
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As Happy noted, once we contained their qb in the pocket, we were okay. #81 made some really fine catches; not sure there are too many FCS backs that could guard him.
It is really hard to determine where our offense is right now. Both Samford and Howard have awful defenses. I do love having four running backs that can outright play.
A FCS punter that can't average 30 yards! Kicking nearly every ball short and out-of-bounds. Surely there is someone else on this roster that can punt a football.
Hopefully, this lackluster performance will remove any possibility of taking Duquesne lightly.
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The catch made in the endzone made it to college game day final and is under the highlights toward the end of the show.
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what was the attendance
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Anyone else watch the post game press conference? Bo was very upset...
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Eventually someone, probably in our league, is going to contain our run game. When that happens we do not have the OB talent to take charge. Both our current QBs are below average for our level. What is up with Waid? This kid put up supper human numbers in high school but cannot start ahead of our current QBs? When he came in early I thought that the starting job was his to loose. Apparently he lost it.
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dwj,
The worst thing that we could do is play Waid before he is ready. Any quarterback coming out of high school faces a daunting task while adjusting to the speed of the college game. Waid's problem is compounded by the fact that he played against very weak competition and his numbers really don't mean much. Redshirt the kid and we might eventually get four years of outstanding qb play. Panic and force-feed him and we might ruin him.
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We should play Waid. I thought you were allowed to play a frosh in 4 games and they will not lose their redshirt status.
If we're blowing out the next two opponents and he doesn't play that would say to me that coach wants to give Craycraft as many reps as possible and Waid isn't ready. I thought he would get som reps in the 4th against Howard.
Wade put up incredible numbers at Girard and seems to have all the measurements you want in a QB but on the other hand he was committed to Fordham before YSU . Not sure he was highly recruited despite what he did in the valley.
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They want to redshirt him and give him another year but I think he is the best of all.
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If he was ready he would be playing.
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Our D will be ok. On O we need to be able to pass the ball better, especially down the field. If not all will load up against the run and that will be it. Waid must not be ready. Punting is an issue. I think McFadden will be ok. Biggest concern is QB with punting 2nd. Otherwise we are not bad.
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Duquesne will be a very tough opponent. Remember they made the playoffs last year and we didn't. They have a great running back and solid defense this is their Super Bowl against us. So expect a good game we better be prepared.
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Sloppy. Selfish and dumb penalties. Special teams continue to disappoint.
Fix the dumb mistakes and special teams and we can be decent.
That was a good offense we faced and once we decided to contain the QB in the pocket they couldn't do much outside of looking for #81 every pass play.
Our D line is phenomenal.
Problem with this defense is that we get burned far too often. Any Qb that can pass beyond 10-yards, blows us apart. The MVFC teams are big up front on O and not going to collapse as did Howard. Let's move some of these DL's to the other side of the ball so we give our OL some rest. Another solid game for Mays. His distance throwing with accuracy has improved this year. The QB for Howard was as accurate while running, as he was standing back in the pocket. Looked nice.
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Problem with this defense is that we get burned far too often. Any Qb that can pass beyond 10-yards, blows us apart. The MVFC teams are big up front on O and not going to collapse as did Howard. Let's move some of these DL's to the other side of the ball so we give our OL some rest. Another solid game for Mays. His distance throwing with accuracy has improved this year. The QB for Howard was as accurate while running, as he was standing back in the pocket. Looked nice.
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We must not have watched the same game. Mays didn't look good at all to me or the 4 people with me. He was way off target. Under or overthrowing so often.
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I agree that May's was not accurate. as a matter of fact ESPN's take on the throw to Braswell in the endzone was something like- You've got you man beat by 15 yards, what are you doing QB? Help the guy out by not overthrowing him.
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I agree that May's was not accurate. as a matter of fact ESPN's take on the throw to Braswell in the endzone was something like- You've got you man beat by 15 yards, what are you doing QB? Help the guy out by not overthrowing him.
Mays does over throw. He throws the ball the same velocity (as hard as he can) no matter how far away the receiver is ???
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Howard will put up a lot of yards and points this year. I think I heard the announcers say they went for over 500 yds vs Ohio last season. Their QB would start for us.
Both lines were dominant today. Got to clean up mistakes in the kicking game. YSU Qb's need better accuracy.
Not dissapointed in #7 on his coverage. That might be the best WR he'll play against in his career. That guy was big and athletic.
Their QB would start for a BUNCH of teams! He's good, rest of team is terrible, but he makes up for a bunch!
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I don't think Mays had one ball on target. On the INT, he had his man open for a touchdown, threw the ball behind him, got it tipped up for the INT. On target, it was 6 (MAYBE 7, but that's another issue)
In addition, one of my Mays complaints has always been, he's a running QB that isn't that good of a runner. I was impressed with Craycraft's running ability. He is at least as good as Nate, who is slow. Howard's run defense (I'm not sure run defense and Howard should be used in the same sentence!) is MUCH worse than we'll see in the MVFC and they held Mays to 4.3 YPC. Sounds OK, but the team averaged 11.6!! We have 2 games to get ready and time Craycraft should get the start. We keep Waid on the bench every game we can and hope we save the redshirt, but time to move on from Mays.
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What do you say about a team that punts for almost twice the average as it's RUN game?
We averaged 11.6 yards rushing and 22.5 punting?!?!?!? I've NEVER seen a relationship like that!
We missed multiple extra points and punting was TERRIBLE, neither will fly in the MVFC. Things need to pick up a TON. Special teams, downfield pass coverage, passing game, and mental discipline on penalties all need HUGE improvement.
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You don't often score 54 and lose time of possession, but you also don't have 4 scoring drives that TOTAL just over a minute! 32 8 13 & 12. That was some historically bad run efense. (not a spelling error, there was no D in it!)
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Mays is a much better passer this year then last. I did not say he was a great passer; if he was, he would not have been sitting behind Wells, as Wells had no legs. Why would you think Mays is some great runner? He is a clear drop-back guy. What you saw on the other side was a running QB. That being said, this team operates well under Mays and he is "clearly" the man until injury or Craycraft dramatically improves his game.
Also, Craycraft or Waid will not start for this team after 2019.
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Mays is a much better passer this year then last. I did not say he was a great passer; if he was, he would not have been sitting behind Wells, as Wells had no legs. Why would you think Mays is some great runner? He is a clear drop-back guy. What you saw on the other side was a running QB. That being said, this team operates well under Mays and he is "clearly" the man until injury or Craycraft dramatically improves his game.
Also, Craycraft or Waid will not start for this team after 2019.
Wells had 2 legs, they just didn't move very fast!
Sometime we should watch the same game. Mays was off target on every single throw the threw Saturday. You are measuring him against two pretty bad defenses, including Howard, which was perhaps the worst I've ever seen in FCS football, and I've seen some really bad teams. Newton was as good as I've seen for a LONG time. He was a one man show that gave us fits all day. Take away the sack yardage from rushing yards and he was 300+ passing and 100+ rushing. And I believe we have a D good enough to make the playoffs.
Last year Mays was 222 of 44 50% for 304 yards This year 18 for 32 56% for 306. Maybe that is very slim marginal improvement, but to say flat out "Mays is a much better passer this year then last" isn't born out at the game or in the stats. Craycraft is clearly the better thrower and we had better get him ready for the MVFC or I fear we are going to go 2-6 and miss the playoffs again.
I don't understand "Craycraft or Waid won't start after 2019" Obviously both can't start but do you mean the "loser" will transfer? The could certainly happen but if both are here, both will start 10 games over the next 2 years due to injury.
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No question on Craycraft, that is why he is getting so much playing time; but that is not helping us for 2019 at this point. We just have to see how Craycraft does, but I am far more comfortable with Mays at the helm at this point. His passing in week-1 was terrific ...weak team or not. Craycraft is a far too obvious pattern passer.
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His passing in week-1 was terrific ...weak team or not. Craycraft is a far too obvious pattern passer.
C'mon man?!?!?! Craycraft has throw 7, count them 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 = seven passes in his college career so far and you can make some inane comment about "far to obvious pattern passer?!?!? WTF does that even mean. We have been watching Mays for 4 years and he still has no good idea where the ball is going to go when it leaves his hand?!?!?!
You fall in love with one of these kids and you simply can't see what is going on on the field.
I'm out
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Mays is a much better passer this year then last. I did not say he was a great passer; if he was, he would not have been sitting behind Wells, as Wells had no legs. Why would you think Mays is some great runner? He is a clear drop-back guy. What you saw on the other side was a running QB. That being said, this team operates well under Mays and he is "clearly" the man until injury or Craycraft dramatically improves his game.
Also, Craycraft or Waid will not start for this team after 2019.
This may be just me, but I consider Mays a running QB due to the large amount of read option and RPO we run.
I know he is not a great runner. He is slow and runs to contact. He appears to be trying to correct the latter and save some punishment, with mixed results.
He's a worse passer than a runner so there is no way I would ever consider him a pocket passer, and that's not what he's asked to do in this system to this point.
Craycraft or Waid will be starting this year because Mays can't stay healthy.
I have no idea what you expect to be the QB situation for next year but I did get a nice LOL out of that, so thank you.