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Title: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: DoubleE on November 23, 2014, 11:10:16 AM
stunned

5 in setting up 2 second round rematches

SDSU vs NDSU and UNI vs ISUr

and ISUb in as well if they win get 8 seed Chattanooga
Title: Re: 7-5 Indiana State got in
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 23, 2014, 11:12:33 AM
wow...Selection committee trying to make up for prior MVFC snubs?

Love how the ISUr highlight clips were of the YSU secondary getting torched.
Title: Re: 7-5 Indiana State got in
Post by: ValleyTalk on November 23, 2014, 11:13:26 AM
To their defense, they defeated Ball State out of the MAC and Liberty, the Big South Champions. Congratulations to the Sycamores! Looks like 5 teams in from the Valley!
Title: Re: 7-5 Indiana State got in,
Post by: ValleyTalk on November 23, 2014, 11:21:14 AM
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Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 23, 2014, 11:26:59 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ValleyTalk on November 23, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
One game short for the 4th straight year. If a coaching change is made, there will be absolutely no grace period. We have the talent to win RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: SoupCity on November 23, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
I don't typically pay attention to the playoffs anymore.  But, for all the talk about the MVFC being the best in FCS, I will pay special attention to the first round games.  The 3 playing in the first round NEED to win those games.  In the 2nd round, well they will be lined up with another MVFC team (except for ISUb).  The conference got its wish this year....time to step up!!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: DoubleE on November 23, 2014, 11:49:58 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
One game short for the 4th straight year. If a coaching change is made, there will be absolutely no grace period. We have the talent to win RIGHT NOW.

I dont know if I agree we have the talent to win right now

Our D Line doesnt get enough pressure on QBs, our DBs had 0 interceptions on the season, our LB core was ok but not special and we have issues running the ball when we have to run the ball against better teams

I think a new coach will be given 3 years to make the playoffs, just enough to fix the problems we currently have to make the slight improvement
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: DoubleE on November 23, 2014, 11:51:13 AM
I don't typically pay attention to the playoffs anymore.  But, for all the talk about the MVFC being the best in FCS, I will pay special attention to the first round games.  The 3 playing in the first round NEED to win those games.  In the 2nd round, well they will be lined up with another MVFC team (except for ISUr).  The conference got its wish this year....time to step up!!

the ISUr vs UNI game will be good as well as the NDSU vs SDSU game

Im intrigued how well ISUb hold up vs Chattanooga
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: IAA Fan on November 23, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
One game short for the 4th straight year. If a coaching change is made, there will be absolutely no grace period. We have the talent to win RIGHT NOW.

Cannot do that Valley. No one would take the job. If we offer it to Montgomery, we could perhaps expect a bit more rapid of a turn-around; but even then we could not demand it.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 23, 2014, 11:55:23 AM
Morgan State makes a mockery of the selection process.....7-5......loss to Holy Moly Cross.....MEAC.....cannon fodder for non-1AAA teams to feast on....Richmond must be stoked to have a "weenie" game in the post-season....
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: SoupCity on November 23, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
If we offer it to Montgomery, we could perhaps expect a bit more rapid of a turn-around; but even then we could not demand it.

No coach from this staff should even remotely be considered for the position.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: SoupCity on November 23, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
WOW....YSU on the list of the first 4 out.  UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: IAA Fan on November 23, 2014, 12:00:33 PM
I would hire Montgomery tomorrow, but I do not think he would take it. It is not very often a guy of this caliber comes around.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: SoupCity on November 23, 2014, 12:01:40 PM
Nope, no way.  I would give up our season tickets within 5 minutes after that hire.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: IAA Fan on November 23, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
I know people will laugh, but I would love to hire back Heacock, as long as Montgomery is made Assistant HC and would stay on as OC.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: YSUGO on November 23, 2014, 12:19:34 PM
I think Montgomery is a disappointment the last 2 yrs.  He rarely made adjustments  and for the love of Pete never could get plays in quick enough.  He cost Wells a RS yr in my opinion when we had nothing after Hess.  He is responsible for the recruitment of the QB's.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 23, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
I know people will laugh, but I would love to hire back Heacock, as long as Montgomery is made Assistant HC and would stay on as OC.

and if Marion Barry wasn't dead, I'd love to have him as mayor of Ytown...
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ysufan0505 on November 23, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I would hire Montgomery tomorrow, but I do not think he would take it. It is not very often a guy of this caliber comes around.

If montgomery stays on this staff in ANY fashion, I will never attend another YSU football game.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Spiderlegs on November 23, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
Hopefully this will end the conspiracy theories about how the FCS hates the MVFC.  The selection committee not only took five MVFC teams, but Indiana State got in with only seven wins. YSU really blew its opportunities (twice!) and now it is time for accountability. No excuses.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: peteonastick on November 23, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
Hopefully this will end the conspiracy theories about how the FCS hates the MVFC.  The selection committee not only took five MVFC teams, but Indiana State got in with only seven wins. YSU really blew its opportunities (twice!) and now it is time for accountability. No excuses.

Strollo needs to earn his pay today and fire the staff.
Sometimes you have to make tough decisions. "When you're in command, command!!!"
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Karl Hungus on November 23, 2014, 01:04:35 PM
Amen Soup.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on November 23, 2014, 03:05:56 PM
Indiana State's AD scheduled them into the playoffs with non-conference wins over a MAC school (ball state) and a automatic qualifier conference champ (liberty). Our AD scheduled us out with our weak nonconferende schedule.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: goodnews on November 23, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
The AD scheduled and the Coach coached them to victories.  One thing about Wolf he wasnt afraid to play up in competition... You cant take that away from him...  There is NO perfect formula other then winning...  We continue to change coaches and scheduling and end up with the same results from the same people.   I think Strollo better get advice from the President cause he could be on the hotseat if he fumbles another hire....
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: KilrpengWin on November 23, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
WOW....YSU on the list of the first 4 out.  UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!
What's unbelievable is that they weren't on the short list, and the first one out!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: peteonastick on November 23, 2014, 05:37:49 PM
The AD scheduled and the Coach coached them to victories.  One thing about Wolf he wasnt afraid to play up in competition... You cant take that away from him...  There is NO perfect formula other then winning...  We continue to change coaches and scheduling and end up with the same results from the same people.   I think Strollo better get advice from the President cause he could be on the hotseat if he fumbles another hire....

I recall a victory over Pitt and then falling apart..again! 
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: penguinpower on November 24, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
One game short for the 4th straight year. If a coaching change is made, there will be absolutely no grace period. We have the talent to win RIGHT NOW.

Cannot do that Valley. No one would take the job. If we offer it to Montgomery, we could perhaps expect a bit more rapid of a turn-around; but even then we could not demand it.

Montgomery was a failure as a head coach at Miami of Ohio.  What makes you think he is head coaching material?   Against every good team we play he fails as an OC and has a track record of failure.  31 yards of offense end of the first half at NDSU.  He was calling option plays without a mobile QB and the NDSU line backers weren't even paying attention to the QB in that situation.   He ran the ball up the middle with 10 in the box multiple times.  This guy may have a big ego but his IQ is small.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: seanbryan3 on November 24, 2014, 09:44:13 AM
Wish for nothing but the best for the MVFC in the playoffs. Proving time is now for all those schools. Hurts so much to know that if we won last week against Indiana State we would have been in.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Spiderlegs on November 24, 2014, 09:52:05 AM
Looking at the selections, an 8-4 YSU team would have been a lock.
One game short for the 4th straight year. If a coaching change is made, there will be absolutely no grace period. We have the talent to win RIGHT NOW.

Cannot do that Valley. No one would take the job. If we offer it to Montgomery, we could perhaps expect a bit more rapid of a turn-around; but even then we could not demand it.
This guy may have a big ego but his IQ is small.

Let's limit this discussion to his coaching abilities, not his personal qualities. He is actually a very nice person who is quite concerned about his players' well being outside of football. The play calling is the issue.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Lets_Talk on November 24, 2014, 01:33:06 PM
Now is the time for MVFC teams to prove this is the best conference in FCS. If UNI and SDSU win, the MFVC is guaranteed at least 2 teams in the final 8.

If UNI, SDSU and Indy State all lose in the 1st round, MFVC could have ZERO teams in Final 8. Hard to see NDSU losing at home, but anything can happen in 1 game. And, they had a starting LB leave the game against YSU with a ruptured Achilles. The team that plays NDSU in 2nd round will have nothing to lose, as pretty much everyone except those involved with said team will predict NDSU to win by at least 7-10 points. At some point, the run will end for NDSU, just as it has for every other dominant team.

SDSU plays at Montana State, not an easy place to play for the visiting team.
Indy State plays at EKU, a team that also has a win over a team from the MAC(Miami) and played 2 FBS teams. Indy State likely cost themselves a home game with the loss to WIU.

UNI hosts SFA, and the only "quality" win for SFA is SE Louisiana(9-3/7-1). A game in which UNI ought to be favored, but MVFC teams have a history of "laying eggs" in the playoffs. So, this is far, far, far from a sure thing.

23-1 against FCS schools in OOC play will not mean much if a team other than NDSU does not advance to at least the 3rd round. May not even mean all that much if SDSU and Indy State win, then NDSU and ISU or UNI move on to 3rd round, only to have NDSU be the only winner in the 3rd round. Especially if Indy State loses in 1st round.

That would be 2-1 first round... 0-0 2nd round... 1-1 3rd round, with the 1 win from NDSU.

I could be wrong, but if I am reading the brackets correctly, there is a possibility for NDSU - ISU(r) in the NC Game. That would be great for the MVFC, and even better if ISU would beat NDSU in the Title game.

Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: guinpen on November 24, 2014, 07:23:33 PM
I understand that the correct/proper thing to say is go mvfc, rah! rah! rah! show the rest of the world how superior the league is, show why we deserve multiple teams in. 

What I am going to say is this, I hope that every team loses as soon as possible. Just do not like the league, just do not care for any of the teams.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ysuguins4 on December 01, 2014, 12:36:57 PM
Congrats to UNI, SDSU and the Trees.  They validated the committee's decision to award 4 at-large selections to MVFC schools.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: IAA Fan on December 01, 2014, 01:10:50 PM
I want an MVFC team to win ...just not NDSU. Remember this could be title #4 and for those of you that do not know

1. GA Southern has 6 titles
2. YSU has 4 titles
3. NDSU is tied with a few others with 3 titles.

So I would like to see an OT win by SDSU this Saturday.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Lets_Talk on December 02, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
1AA Fan,

If you want an MFVC team to win the Title, and have it be a team other than NDSU, then might I suggest this outcome.

NDSU beats SDSU
ISU beats UNI ... or UNI beats ISU
Indy State beats Chattanooga

ISU-UNI winner then beats EWU-Montana winner
NDSU beats Coastal Carolina - Richmond winner
Indy State beats New Hampshire-Fordham winner

ISU-UNI winner then plays Indy State
NDSU advances to other semi-final game

NC Game:
Illinois State -vs- NDSU....ISU wins ..... would be a combo MVFC Title game and NC Game, and with the way NDSU fans travel, the stadium will be filled.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: mvfc penguin on December 02, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
UNI is winning the National Championship this year!
They have already beat NDSU and IllSt
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Penguin Nation on December 02, 2014, 06:43:07 PM
I understand that the correct/proper thing to say is go mvfc, rah! rah! rah! show the rest of the world how superior the league is, show why we deserve multiple teams in. 

What I am going to say is this, I hope that every team loses as soon as possible. Just do not like the league, just do not care for any of the teams.

The ONLY reason I hope for MVFC teams to win is that it helps YSU.  Otherwise I wouldn't give a frogs fat arse about them.

And I agree that UNI is NDSU's biggest threat and may go the distance.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: guinpen on December 06, 2014, 07:23:57 PM
3 down 2 to go
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: DavedS on December 07, 2014, 01:00:05 AM
UNI is winning the National Championship this year!
They have already beat NDSU and IllSt
UNI will never win a National Championship!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ValleyTalk on December 07, 2014, 08:50:53 AM
UNI is winning the National Championship this year!
They have already beat NDSU and IllSt
They just got decimated by ILSU last year. The score is in no way indicative of how bad they got beat up. It was 24-0 in the 1st half at that game.

I would absolutely LOVE for NDSU and ILSU to meet in the finals. Quite frankly, I think ILSU is a top 3 team this year, but they have not received enough respect from the voters. I was not a believer until that 2nd half vs. YSU, but they wowed me in many ways.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: nova75 on December 07, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
UNI has made the playoffs 8 times to YSu's 1 since 2000. Yes they have no titles but at this point no one in college football was born when YSU last won a title. Times have changed and YSU is just another 7-4 team.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: DavedS on December 07, 2014, 10:12:51 AM
UNI has also made the playoffs numerous times before 2000--2 things that you can bet on --The sun will come up tomorrow and UNI will NEVER win a National Championship. fb
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: guinpen on December 07, 2014, 11:55:54 AM
Yes they have no titles but at this point no one in college football was born when YSU last won a title.

Hummm, been 17 years since YSU won in 1997, just saying!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: nova75 on December 07, 2014, 01:34:19 PM
That's my Mooney math. But you get the point.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: Spiderlegs on December 07, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
Not to be a kill joy on the MVFC, but I just wanted to point out that there were those saying that the bottom team in the conference was better than nearly anybody else in the FCS. Chattanooga's win over Indiana State should give us food for thought.
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: guinpen on December 07, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
That's my Mooney math. But you get the point.

Yes I got your point
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: guinpen on December 07, 2014, 06:07:36 PM
UNI has also made the playoffs numerous times before 2000--2 things that you can bet on --The sun will come up tomorrow and UNI will NEVER win a National Championship. fb

Funny, I like it, don't like uni but I like your comment
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ysubigred on December 08, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
Looks like the selection committee got it pretty right?! Only 1 of the 8 seed lost. Why do they continue to have more than one OVC team in and seed one LOL!! Chatty is better than people think. They kicked Indy state's arse the whole game!! UNH is not good and not a #1 seed. Nova is also suspect. SDSU should have been a seed but because of auto bids and not doing the 24 ""best teams" we'll always have bad match up's and seeds!
Title: Re: 5 MVFC Schools In
Post by: ysubigred on December 09, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
UNI has also made the playoffs numerous times before 2000--2 things that you can bet on --The sun will come up tomorrow and UNI will NEVER win a National Championship. fb

Funny, I like it, don't like uni but I like your comment

UNI has to be a closet OVC team.. Look like world beaters in conference/regular season... Hit the playoffs and blowwwww!!  :P