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with Bo Pelini. Ouch, he apparently held nothing back in final talk with his players at Nebraska.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/nebraska-cornhuskers-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-players-meeting-tape-121714
It's pretty bad.
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with Bo Pelini. Ouch, he apparently held nothing back in final talk with his players at Nebraska.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/nebraska-cornhuskers-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-players-meeting-tape-121714
It's pretty bad.
That's not even bad.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....you're killing me. It's pretty bad.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....you're killing me. It's pretty bad.
The AD there is an ******** and did Miami dirty. He's just at Nebraska waiting for the Wisconsin job. I don't really think saying those words are even bad.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....you're killing me. It's pretty bad.
The AD there is an ******** and did Miami dirty. He's just at Nebraska waiting for the Wisconsin job. I don't really think saying those words are even bad.
I'm absolutely on your side with this. But it's pretty bad. I actually laughed when I saw it trending on Twitter. I knew it was only a matter of time before something like that showed up.
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Sometime you have to call a spade a spade......
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If you read the article is says the AD wouldn't even come to the locker room after the games and only talked to him 2 or 3 times the entire time he was there. I'm a huge Hurricanes fan and follow them pretty well and he did Miami super dirty and wasn't well liked.
Sorry but I'd work for Pelini any day. Some people need called out for the BS.
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What I found funny about it (and never realized), Pelini's rant against the fans and university started after that guy got the AD job.
I hope you don't think I feel this is an "I told you so" moment. Because it's not.
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What I found funny about it (and never realized), Pelini's rant against the fans and university started after that guy got the AD job.
I hope you don't think I feel this is an "I told you so" moment. Because it's not.
Nebraska is just grabbing at straws. They fired a guy that most young fans and players liked and hired a guy who didn't do anything at Oregon State. Then you see the fans justifying that Mike Riley didn't have the talent base or money to win. So if he was such a good coach he'd win without the talent base and money LOL. Idiots.
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First of all it was a secret recording. 2nd, the AD was a dick and gave Pelini no support. Good for Bo! Youngstown born and bred.
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LOL ! Its not the first time Bo has been exposed with his mouth and won't be the last. There are legendary stories in coaching circles about him. Can't see that he changes by coming home. If the media is truthful, it will be funny as he11 around here. He'll stick his foot in his mouth often, use language like a sailor and rub some people the wrong way and won't care that he did, telling them so.
Its going to be a comedy show. Grab some popcorn ! ;D
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Isnt the media great....!
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LOL ! Its not the first time Bo has been exposed with his mouth and won't be the last. There are legendary stories in coaching circles about him. Can't see that he changes by coming home. If the media is truthful, it will be funny as he11 around here. He'll stick his foot in his mouth often, use language like a sailor and rub some people the wrong way and won't care that he did, telling them so.
Its going to be a comedy show. Grab some popcorn ! ;D
I really wonder if your a YSU fan... Who gives a sh** what he says behind closed doors? He's a football coach and he's here to coach football.
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Paladin, just leave.
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05, are you a boob ? He is a PUBLIC figure, not just a FB coach. He'll make headlines. He'll be quoted, often in both his public and private talks. He is in the fishbowl, so he'll be exposed.
Some times I wonder about you. Did you graduate yet ? ;D
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05, are you a boob ? He is a PUBLIC figure, not just a FB coach. He'll make headlines. He'll be quoted, often in both his public and private talks. He is in the fishbowl, so he'll be exposed.
Some times I wonder about you. Did you graduate yet ? ;D
I understand that, but this recording was taken while he was addressing his team in a private meeting. Not at a press conference with the media, not in an 1 on 1 interview. Gimme a break. The only headlines I care about are winning and going to the playoffs. I love the fiery passion he has. Forgive me
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And what if ALL the players didn't agree with his comments ? Or their parents didn't agree ( after the player told them)? There isn't any privacy as a FB coach.. with the team, players, schools, fans, etc. Best understand if you say something, no matter where, it may be used against you. Think anything you want. Just don't say it. If you said it, it becomes FACT. And, he talks like a drunk sailor. The public is going to know that very quick. There is an image problem here that may need to be addressed. Fair warning.
LIsten, the stories on Pelini are legend. The guy is a walking blopper waiting to happen. Sit back and enjoy the ride. LOts of laughs ahead.
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And what if ALL the players didn't agree with his comments ? Or their parents didn't agree ( after the player told them)? There isn't any privacy as a FB coach.. with the team, players, schools, fans, etc. Best understand if you say something, no matter where, it may be used against you. Think anything you want. Just don't say it. If you said it, it becomes FACT. And, he talks like a drunk sailor. The public is going to know that very quick. There is an image problem here that may need to be addressed. Fair warning.
LIsten, the stories on Pelini are legend. The guy is a walking blopper waiting to happen. Sit back and enjoy the ride. LOts of laughs ahead.
And Joe Bilden is still the VP. What is your point?
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LIsten, the stories on Pelini are legend. The guy is a walking blopper waiting to happen. Sit back and enjoy the ride. LOts of laughs ahead.
Your personality and ego provide us with more than enough laughs.
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And what if ALL the players didn't agree with his comments ? Or their parents didn't agree ( after the player told them)? There isn't any privacy as a FB coach.. with the team, players, schools, fans, etc. Best understand if you say something, no matter where, it may be used against you. Think anything you want. Just don't say it. If you said it, it becomes FACT. And, he talks like a drunk sailor. The public is going to know that very quick. There is an image problem here that may need to be addressed. Fair warning.
LIsten, the stories on Pelini are legend. The guy is a walking blopper waiting to happen. Sit back and enjoy the ride. LOts of laughs ahead.
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Can't wait. I've got my popcorn ready to go!!
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The "Husker Board" at Huskeronline is really chewing him up and airing dirty laundry. Wow !
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The "Husker Board" at Huskeronline is really chewing him up and airing dirty laundry. Wow !
Sour grapes. They fired a coach who won 9 games a season to hire a coach who didn't do sh** at Oregon State. Nebraska will be irrelevant in a few years.
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The "Husker Board" at Huskeronline is really chewing him up and airing dirty laundry. Wow !
Just like any board does when their coach gets fired....
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Double OT, not sure what Joe Biden has to do with Pelini? But, since you mentioned his name, that is a very good comparison. I voted for Obama TWICE. I love Biden, and Biden is a walking gaffe machine. It's one of the things I like most about him. He speaks his mind. He is who he is. If one likes him, they like him. If not, then oh well. Rarely a dull moment with good ole Joe. He is from Scranton, for crying out loud. ;D
Bo is the same way. Have known him since we were 10. Bo is Bo. He has a temper, but it's not as if he becomes physically abusive with the players. He cusses alot when angry, as do alot of people and alot of coaches. He is highly emotional. With Bo, you get 100%. He's a football coach, plain and simple. The PR stuff is for the AD, SID...etc. I understand this was said in private. Thing is, in this day of cameras with phones and ability to record things, very little is private. He was speaking his mind and being honest to his players. Someone recorded it, and eventually it was leaked to the public. That type of thing does cause a headache for the AD and SID. It also influences what people think of Bo. But, he doesn't care much what people other than his family, close friends, players and coaching staff think of him.
It will be interesting to see how the local media covers YSU. One complaint I have with the media in Ytown is they seem to try and become friends with YSU coaches. Having a good relationship is great. But, there also needs to be enough separation for the media to step back and do reporting, even when it is unfavorable to YSU. That is what happens at the "big time" schools. There were alot of little things that happened when Tressel was at YSU that never made it into the paper. The kind of things that DID make it into the paper, on tv and radio talk shows in Columbus. When I lived on Park Avenue, there was a shooting one night in Fall of 98 outside Amy's Campus 2000 on Elm Street. I know football players were involved in some way, because I heard the names aof a few players being yelled. Incident started as a argument then at some point, shots were fired. I do not know the exact involvement of the football players. Do know players were involved, and it was on a Thursday night with a game on Saturday. Had that kind of thing happened in Cbus, it would have made the news. Even if the players were not guilty of doing anything wrong. But, not in Ytown, at least not when Tressel was coach.
I know a player personally that failed multiple drug tests in 96. He was a Senior, a Captain and an All American. Was finally suspended, but the reason was never made public. Failed the drug tests do to marijuana, which to me is no worse than alcohol and ought to be legal. Point is, at a place like OSU or Nebraska, media finds the EXACT reason then makes it public. I know another player who was banned from Lyden House for fighting. I know this, because I was in school as a post grad student in 97. I worked on Campus. One day, the person in charge of Housing at YSU asked me to fill in at front desk in Lyden. There was a list of all the people who were banned from entering the building. This players name was on the list. I know it was for fighting. I know because I was told that by the person who ran campus housing, and know because I asked the player. He was a starter for YSU. A good kid. But he had a temper and would fight when challenged. Again, kind of thing that would make the news in Lincoln or Cbus.
Bo ought to be entertaining. Press conferences could be fun, especially after a loss. And, NO, I'm not saying I want YSU to lose. Just pointing out he HATES TO LOSE. If he gets asked a stupid question after a loss, he just might give an answer with one or more expletives. Especially as time wears on, and inevitably riffs develop between Bo and some members of the media. Think of Slocum in press conferences after a loss, only with a longer answer and expletives.
There are going to be times he gets right up in the face of players when they come off the field. Times when if able to read his lips, the words coming on will be on the FCC's banned list. And, depending on the level of noise in the stadium, people sitting close to field on YSU sideline side may even hear him cussing. Thing is, he will also hug his players, chest bump, swear when congratulating them. Again, just Bo being Bo. Yes I rambled. Yes the post is long. To those who do not like it, to f###ing bad :P . Pretty sure Bo Pelini would approve of that last sentence. :)
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I was referring to his comments about Pelini shooting his mouth off. Biden is the VP of the country and he shot off his mouth regularly here or aboard while representing our country. Yet, he critized a FB coach. That was the comparison. You might not agree with it or see it since you were fooled by Obama twice.
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For the first time since joining this board, I agree with Paladin. Part, not all, but at least part of the reason Coach Wolford was fired was because he and his wife not having the most favorable image in the community. You can't have it both ways.
That kind of language is unacceptable and cannot be tolerated. Pelini is a leader, supposed to mold young men. Please don't say that is 'ok' in Youngstown, that is why we get a bad rap. Only the 'Mooney Loonies" could condone that kind of behavior.
Tressel better reel Pelini in early.
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For the first time since joining this board, I agree with Paladin. Part, not all, but at least part of the reason Coach Wolford was fired was because he and his wife not having the most favorable image in the community. You can't have it both ways.
That kind of language is unacceptable and cannot be tolerated. Pelini is a leader, supposed to mold young men. Please don't say that is 'ok' in Youngstown, that is why we get a bad rap. Only the 'Mooney Loonies" could condone that kind of behavior.
Tressel better reel Pelini in early.
I agree with you about that kind of language is not acceptable and I do not use it myself. However, I worked my entire career working with the labor unions in the manufacturing sector. That kind of language was rather common in the closed door meeting. I was told that was part of the culture. However, it was not used in an open meeting. To a certain extend, that culture also exists in the locker room. I was willing to be less critical on a coach for what was said in a closed session with the players in the locker room during an emotional discussion. That's all.
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For the first time since joining this board, I agree with Paladin. Part, not all, but at least part of the reason Coach Wolford was fired was because he and his wife not having the most favorable image in the community. You can't have it both ways.
That kind of language is unacceptable and cannot be tolerated. Pelini is a leader, supposed to mold young men. Please don't say that is 'ok' in Youngstown, that is why we get a bad rap. Only the 'Mooney Loonies" could condone that kind of behavior.
Tressel better reel Pelini in early.
Unacceptable and can't be tolerated? What are you 80 years old? I can tell you plenty of leaders of this country use these words on a daily basis.
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Has anybody actually been in a football locker room before?? Jeez oh man. Get a grip people.
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I just finished listening to the raw audio which was about 30 minutes long and i have to say it wasnt at all what i expected as reported by the media. I expected a profanity laced tirade with loud volume and screaming and kicking trash cans etc. in reality, while i didnt tally each and every word, there were about a dozen curse words used at most...in 30 minutes. From my perspective the media projected the F word or P word every five seconds. Now...i believe in curse words. Lol. There is a clear difference when saying "can you stop that please" vs. "can you fu*king stop?" IMO the first wont likely get the same results as the latter. Yes he did call the AD names but never once did he scream or yell. I would relate it to a conversation about any number of topics while drinking a few beers with a buddy in my living room. I realize that doesnt make any of it right or acceptable as the face of a football program. But still i must say it really wasnt that bad. The biggest problem, for me, was that Bo's comments and overall agenda was childish. Let it go dude. You didnt like them and they didnt like you. It sucks. I get it. But you have to get over it. Especially since he has been around a long time and seen a lot of stuff (as he pointed out a couple times.) i honestly wouldnt even categorize this as a rant. I dont know, yes these are MY thoughts and everyone has a right to have their own opinions but i did expect to hear much worse. With that said, he does need to grow up a bit and learn a little humility and just relax. I dont mind the cursing, but just chill out buddy.
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Let me see if I have this right. Pelini is a bad person because he swears, gets emotional, and criticizes a former boss with whom he had a stormy relationship. Swearing and physicality are prominent features of Catholic, ethnic, working class culture in America. If you Mayflower descendants cannot tolerate such despicable behavior, I suggest you board the next plane and fly back to England. Be sure to arrive in time to have tea with the (expletive deleted) royal family.
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It isn't bad at all.
http://studio.omaha.com/EXPLICIT-Raw-audio-of-Bo-Pelinis-final-meeting-with-Nebraska-players-28270572
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Yep, I have to agree now that I've heard the recording. No where near as bad as what I thought it was going to be.
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The media always will use the keywords and take it out of context to get headlines.
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Coaches are supposed to the teachers, at least thats what they claim; shapers of character, molders of individuals, etc etc. Pellini failed as a teacher to his most important audience--his players. He could have taught them how to leave a bad situation with class and dignity. Instead he taught them exactly how not to. Here is what he could have said...."Its been a great run at Nebraska, Ive truly loved coaching you. Unfortunately the person who hired me is no longer my boss. And the current AD and I have not had the best relationship. This happens frequently and as you move on in your careers it might happen to you. Sometimes this means that you have to move on and thats what is happening with me. Im lucky, We have been successful here. I will coach somewhere else. It will likely be a good situation with an AD who wants me, and I have the money from my contract to fall back on. So shed no tears for me. One of the keys to life is how you handle bad situations. My advice to you is learn when to leave and leave with class and dignity. Sometimes you have to burn bridges to move forward, but the trick is knowing when and how to do so."
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Let me see if I have this right. Pelini is a bad person because he swears, gets emotional, and criticizes a former boss with whom he had a stormy relationship. Swearing and physicality are prominent features of Catholic, ethnic, working class culture in America. If you Mayflower descendants cannot tolerate such despicable behavior, I suggest you board the next plane and fly back to England. Be sure to arrive in time to have tea with the (expletive deleted) royal family.
I probably swear way more than him.
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I am not going to applaud or condem what Coach Pelini said, but I will tell you that I lived in Alabama during Bear Bryant's tenure and visited camp many times. Bear was about as abusive of a coach as you could imagine, both verbally and physically, yet every news media always referred to him as "the perfect southern gentleman."
You can find skeletons in the closet of almost every person let alone every coach.
We were happy to get Coach Pelini and now it seems some have already turned on him.
Welcome to Youngstown.
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I hope Pelini wins championships and is the best thing to hit Youngstown since Jim Tressel. But some of the comments defending his behavior are amazing. The comment about Bear Bryant, this isn't 1970 anymore. Times have changed, coaches now get fired for things that were common place decades ago.
Why do you think Pelini isn't coaching at an FBS program? Maybe they didn't want to deal with his BS.
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I hope Pelini wins championships and is the best thing to hit Youngstown since Jim Tressel. But some of the comments defending his behavior are amazing. The comment about Bear Bryant, this isn't 1970 anymore. Times have changed, coaches now get fired for things that were common place decades ago.
Why do you think Pelini isn't coaching at an FBS program? Maybe they didn't want to deal with his BS.
Yes it's not 1970's anymore and people don't care about swearing and screaming at people. He isn't coaching at Nebraska because those bible belt thumpers can't handle it and the AD there is a d***** bag. Do a bit of research on the AD. He wasn't well liked at Miami either. It's also been stated on multiple college football shows that he wasn't happy there and would have resigned the year before but wanted to stick it out for the players.
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If he wins, all this will go away prettttyyyyy quickly
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I can not believe that this has attracted this much attention. A football coach, in the locker room, screaming and yelling is not news, not a shock, not a big deal unless you are desperate to find something to complain about.
Too much good stuff to get excited about, move on.
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I can not believe that this has attracted this much attention. A football coach, in the locker room, screaming and yelling is not news, not a shock, not a big deal unless you are desperate to find something to complain about.
Too much good stuff to get excited about, move on.
Scalzo must never of been in a football locker room after a loss... He was all up in arms about it yesterday.
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You are ALL missing it. The reaction isn't from those of us who know Bo is a dick, cusses, has anger issues and doesn't control himself well................ its the PARENTS of prospective players just NOW getting to know about him. You may write it off. But many parents and players WON'T. In fact, Bo will be used against himself by other schools pointing out his flaws, poor language and tantrums.
He will hurt himself in recruiting. This isn't big time Nebraska. Its FCS YSU
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Pally, I'm not sure I've ever agreed with anything you have said on this forum or that I ever will again. But, in this case, you make a very valid point!!! Kudos to you.
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You are ALL missing it. The reaction isn't from those of us who know Bo is a dick, cusses, has anger issues and doesn't control himself well................ its the PARENTS of prospective players just NOW getting to know about him. You may write it off. But many parents and players WON'T. In fact, Bo will be used against himself by other schools pointing out his flaws, poor language and tantrums.
He will hurt himself in recruiting. This isn't big time Nebraska. Its FCS YSU
I don't think parents care about foul language. Again this isn't the 50's. Players and students swear more now than ever before. I think most of you aren't around teenagers or 20 somethings very often. Most kids nowadays are not angels.
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Good. With an attitude like that, recruiting should get real interesting around here. You are clueless if you think a parent is willing to send their kid to a dick 500 or a 1000 miles away from home when other schools nearer will lay out a gentleman approach.
If you are looking to screw YSU, you are off to a good start
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Good. With an attitude like that, recruiting should get real interesting around here. You are clueless if you think a parent is willing to send their kid to a dick 500 or a 1000 miles away from home when other schools nearer will lay out a gentleman approach.
If you are looking to screw YSU, you are off to a good start
I'm not clueless because I deal with the kids 18 to 22 everyday being I am a leader in the military. You are just a complete negative nancy.
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Lol, your delusional if you think that is going to scare away parents from sending their kids here. Did you listen to the rest of the tape? His players LOVE him and he would do anything for those players. Get real Pally, and put the pipe down.
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Strollo issued a statement that put Bo on notice and as the statement implied--"end of story." I hope it is. History shows that unless the underlying issues behind the behavior are addressed, the behavior will escalate and be repeated--Woody Hayes, Bobby Knight, Mike Rice. What was once accepted is no longer acceptable-the use of the N-word; gay bashing; locker room hazing; marching band antics-I hope Bo understands that.
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Players love him ? PLayers have turned over tapes of "private meetings" with him several times to the media. And each time caused a controversy. Just like now. Heres some news -- not all players loved JT. I assure you not all players loved Wolf. The one here that's delusional isn't me. ;D ;D ;D
And if you don't understand how strongly parents can be involved in recruiting and deciding where their son goes to play FB, I hope the coaches they hire to recruit know more than you, 05.
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Strollo issued a statement that put Bo on notice and as the statement implied--"end of story." I hope it is. History shows that unless the underlying issues behind the behavior are addressed, the behavior will escalate and be repeated--Woody Hayes, Bobby Knight, Mike Rice. What was once accepted is no longer acceptable-the use of the N-word; gay bashing; locker room hazing; marching band antics-I hope Bo understands that.
I do not find Bo's rants to be acceptable. However, having said that, the use of the Fxxx word is not the same a the examples cited by you. A few years ago, some OSO fans were wearing sweat shirts with "Fxxx Michigan" on it. It was done with poor taste but the judge ruled that was ok since the word stood for "intercourse".
The term is generic. The examples cited by you were action or verbal assault target against specific group or groups because of ethnicity, sexual preferences, religion ...... They are not the same. I hope you understand that.
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Players love him ? PLayers have turned over tapes of "private meetings" with him several times to the media. And each time caused a controversy. Just like now. Heres some news -- not all players loved JT. I assure you not all players loved Wolf. The one here that's delusional isn't me. ;D ;D ;D
And if you don't understand how strongly parents can be involved in recruiting and deciding where their son goes to play FB, I hope the coaches they hire to recruit know more than you, 05.
How do you know it was a player who turned over the evidence? Who knows who were all in that meeting. This will all blow over in a couple weeks. Nebraska has sour grapes, move on.
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Pally:
Your always speak the obvious & act like you are the only one that gets it. We all knew this the second his name came up (most knew it well-before); again we ALL knew this. As kforrbs said ...you just want to be a "negative Nancy". Remember that you are going too far when you "rain on our parade".
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Let's see if my son were a star basketball player in the 1970's and 80's I would want him to play for one of the best in the country at the time...Bob Knight...tough..no nonsense, work hard, tell it like it is, and if my son were not good enough then that's the way it is...and if my son were a star football player I would want him to play for a guy like Bo Pelini, tell it like it is, in your face, get it done...we are busy raising pansies in this country who can't handle any adversity or someone telling them are no good at something or need to work harder in order to play. Some of these kids don't have any resiliency anymore and he will build that!!
GO GUINS
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I can understand a coaches outburst in a practice, pre-game, halftime, post-game, meetings or even in film study. What people are missing here is that this was a pre-meditated outburst with a former team after the fact ( Two different things here ). Take nothing away from Bo because he is great coach but really what do you think Bo's former players learned from him in that meeting? I'm a firm believer that coaches need to be great role models for the youth going forward. Bo needs to apologize and if Stollo had knowledge of this prior to Bo's hiring he should as well
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I dont care about his swearing...many coaches have said much worse. Teaching players, and role models and all that is non-sense, This isnt the 60's and the sport of football beyond Pee-wee (and in some cases not even that) is not at all about building character... it is about the institutions and what they can get out of it, be it money, free advertising or admissions.
With that being said the HC is a figure head, your lead marketer, the face of the athletic department and in most cases the University. The thing that sticks out the most is apparently Pelini is not good at playing the game, and that is ultimately why he got booted from Nebraska, point blank.....maybe he wont have too play games being "back home", as nepotistic as YSU operations seem to be. But it raises huge questions as to this guys attitude towards his superiors, and the true message he delivers. If I'm the board of trustees, President and the AD, the first time I do something he doesn't like I have to worry about the health of my institution. And if it will be on the news. However that all goes away if he wins....IF, he wins.
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OMG, I cannot believe that this thread still has life. We all have different standards, Bo is human I am human you are human. Try and tell me that any of you have never done anything that is "beneath" your own standards. Be honest. That is what I thought!
Stand outside a Walmart and you will hear this crap, we just landed a coach that most teams in FCS would not even dare to dream about getting. Do you folks get it? I mean do you really get what happened?
Spend a little time enjoying the possibilities.
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Yep. I get it.Strollo made another hire. I am telling you, it's going to be a funny gig. Maybe embarrassing, but funny.
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Yep. I get it.Strollo made another hire. I am telling you, it's going to be a funny gig. Maybe embarrassing, but funny.
Man, can't wait Pally. Getting my popcorn ready!