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Title: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 30, 2013, 02:27:13 PM
Anyone know the status of Bellamy or Hymes?  I like what I've seen from Ruiz, but he hasn't impressed me to the point where I feel he should get all the carries.  If Hymes and Bellamy are healthly, I'd like to see what they can do.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 30, 2013, 02:36:50 PM
I'm pretty sure they are both healthy. But Ruiz continues to impress so why not ride him all the way?
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 01, 2013, 12:33:07 PM
But Ruiz continues to impress so why not ride him all the way?
I would be all for that if he were averaging 8 yards a carry, and breaking off 20+ yard runs on a regular basis.  His longest run over the past 3 games is 19 yards, and he has fumbled 4 times (losing 2) this season.  I believe that Hymes or Bellamy would break off some big runs if given the number of carries that Ruiz had last Saturday.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 02, 2013, 01:48:30 PM
Wolf said Hymes had an MRI on his foot Monday. It's still bothering him a little bit so don't expect him to be out there anytime soon. Hopefully we see Bellamy and Ruiz a lot more
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: IAA Fan on October 02, 2013, 02:36:23 PM
But Ruiz continues to impress so why not ride him all the way?
I would be all for that if he were averaging 8 yards a carry, and breaking off 20+ yard runs on a regular basis.  His longest run over the past 3 games is 19 yards, and he has fumbled 4 times (losing 2) this season.  I believe that Hymes or Bellamy would break off some big runs if given the number of carries that Ruiz had last Saturday.

Good points.

Were a couple of those fumbles on returns? Also, Ruiz does have the added diversity as receiver. With Ruiz and Pace (or a TE) back there, it does give Hess more targets.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: IAA Fan on October 03, 2013, 10:48:19 AM
Also, Webb has played so he cannot red-shirt. He out-gained Ruiz in game-2
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: HappyPenguin on October 03, 2013, 11:31:10 AM
They've shown the past couple seasons with Cook that they will run 1 back until he drops. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: IAA Fan on October 03, 2013, 11:58:11 AM
I still think it is awesome that we can have a discussion on how many back we have. We are much deeper than any other team in the conference. I think right now, we are waiting to see if we have the "top" back in the conference.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 03, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
Wolf said Hymes had an MRI on his foot Monday. It's still bothering him a little bit so don't expect him to be out there anytime soon. Hopefully we see Bellamy and Ruiz a lot more
Good to know.  Hoping it's not serious.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 03, 2013, 12:19:57 PM
Were a couple of those fumbles on returns?

No.  They were all on rushing attempts.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 03, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
Also, Webb has played so he cannot red-shirt. He out-gained Ruiz in game-2

I thought Webb was already redshirted at Toledo?
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 04, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
I thought Webb was already redshirted at Toledo?

That is correct.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 04, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
When Hannon asked Coach about injuries on last night's radio show, he did not mention Hymes.  He said Disher was out for the season, Wheary out a game or two, and Bryant would be avaliable this week in an emergency.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: penguinpower on October 04, 2013, 01:32:57 PM
Who's left at WR?  All we have are the TE's?
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 04, 2013, 01:37:15 PM
Who's left at WR?  All we have are the TE's?

The only WR we have out is Wheary? Disher is a backup TE
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 07, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
Bellamy did not make the trip.  He must really be in the doghouse.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuindy on October 08, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
Per Dana Balash on Twitter:


Dana Balash ‏@DanaBalash21
@21WFMJSports  YSU's Adaris Bellamy on personal leave of absence from team to tend to personal matters.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: IAA Fan on October 08, 2013, 02:34:20 PM
I was very pleasantly surprised by the addition of Webb. Very fast & seems experienced. He must have seen playing time at UT. What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: Wick250 on October 08, 2013, 03:42:42 PM
IAA Fan,

I know that you prefer the old fashioned power running game, but since we are running out of a spread formation, backs like Ruiz and Webb are perfect fits.  From the spread, hitting small holes explosively and then speed in space are the most important attributes.  Both of these guys, although young, demonstrate such potential.  Of course, you must still pick up the tough yards on third and short, but we can easily convert to a power formation with Pace and Sharbaugh.  Of the many things we must worry about, running back is not one of them.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: IAA Fan on October 08, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
IAA Fan,

I know that you prefer the old fashioned power running game, but since we are running out of a spread formation, backs like Ruiz and Webb are perfect fits.  From the spread, hitting small holes explosively and then speed in space are the most important attributes.  Both of these guys, although young, demonstrate such potential.  Of course, you must still pick up the tough yards on third and short, but we can easily convert to a power formation with Pace and Sharbaugh.  Of the many things we must worry about, running back is not one of them.

It is not that I prefer the old-fashioned running game ...it is just that:

1. It's functionality is more than 3rd-and short. The traditional run-game brings the dbacks in closer, opens middles pazzing lanes, consumes clock and wears down opposing defenses. It IS how you close out a game & prevents your opponent from coming back on you. Sometimes coach Shane (a coach that I truly respect and admire) is like a pitcher & uses the traditional run-game like a "change-up" in baseball. In my mind, that will fail almost every time on the football field. You need to make the decision to grind it out, or not ...and stick with it for at least a complete series of downs. Or, the entire drive if you are looking to rest a defense or burn clock. It requires consistency, as you seldom see the big gains of the spread. I mean how many Tamron Smith's are out there? :) Yet at the same time, a speedster can get out outside.

2. We really have not been using the Pace and Sharbaugh team. It is a combination I would love to see more often.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 08, 2013, 09:50:56 PM
Per Dana Balash on Twitter:


Dana Balash ‏@DanaBalash21
@21WFMJSports  YSU's Adaris Bellamy on personal leave of absence from team to tend to personal matters.
Thanks for posting this.  Hopefully everything works out.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: HappyPenguin on October 09, 2013, 07:39:28 AM
I was very pleasantly surprised by the addition of Webb. Very fast & seems experienced. He must have seen playing time at UT. What does everyone else think?

Webb seemed pretty fast at Indy St. Unfortunately he looks tiny...even Ruiz was noticeably bigger than him. I don't think he'll see the workload Ruiz is currently getting any time soon, but he can sure be effective with touches spread throughout the game like Stubbs gets.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
I was very pleasantly surprised by the addition of Webb. Very fast & seems experienced. He must have seen playing time at UT. What does everyone else think?
He did not see any playing time at Toledo, but he had a fine high school career.  1st team all state in division I his Junior and Senior season.  Over 1500 yards rushing each season for a team that went 25-3 and made it to the state semi-finals both years.  They lost to eventual state champ St. Eds in 2010 and state champ St. Iggy in 2011.  He provides a good change of pace, and I hope they use the next three games to get him more carries.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 09, 2013, 02:42:56 PM
I would like to see Webb in the return game. Could be special
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: DavedS on October 09, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
I would like to see Webb in the return game. Could be special
So would I--I'm sure with his moves and speed he would be special.
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 09, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
After seeing what Jody Webb did in the Indiana State game, I like what I saw. He adds another dimension in the backfield with Martin Ruiz because Webb has quick acceleration. This allows the offence to add more play selections. I feel Ruiz will be great, but having 20+ carries every game can wear him down.

One thing for sure, I would like to see him in more plays because he is explosive!
Title: Re: Running Backs
Post by: ysuguins4 on November 12, 2013, 12:57:22 PM
Anybody know why Hymes did not get any reps in the backfield against UNI?