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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: YsuPride on February 19, 2024, 08:07:33 PM
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Game Friday night at Milwaukee. Have a good feeling about Friday.
Thoughts anyone? We need to play solid defense and nail down 10 3 pointers and hit some free throws to win.. we won in overtime at home against them a few weeks ago. We can do it again.
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Need to have a good Wisconsin trip! I don't know about ten threes though! Would be nice!
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* Cut down the turnovers to below 10
* Let BT bring the ball up court and let him stay in the game as long as possible
* Keep Reid out of foul trouble
* Set up screen or kick the ball out to Rush beyond the 3 point line. He shot poorly from the 3 with a defender closely pressing him
* hustling for the loose balls
* Keep Burns’ and Thompson’s emotion in Check (less trash talk.
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We can hit 10 3 pointer just need Rush and Thompson to hit some. Defense and turnovers will be the key.
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In 6 of YSU's 7 league losses they've given up 76 or more points, which is well over the ppg avg they give up in league play of 72.7 (4 of 7 they've given up 81 or more). The only game they didn't was the road loss at Oakland 70-67.
In 8 of 11 of YSU's league wins they've scored 81 or more, 2 of the other wins were against IUPUI which you can almost throw up. The only other league win when they didn't score was the Robert Morris road win when they won 71-57.
This really translates to when YSU plays good defense they win, and most of their wins have been by a comfortable margin meaning they've played well on offense. They've struggled in the close games, most of which they've had sizable leads. I didn't look at the stats, but it seems like they turn the ball over a lot in those losses.
I still feel like in order for YSU to go on a run down the stretch, they are going to need Rush to play better. Rush has been under his ppg avg for 4 straight games, 7 of the last 8, and 9 of the last 11. He's went from YSU's leading scorer to 4th.
Pretty much know what we get out of Burns, Reid & Thompson. Guys like Rush, Langdon, Farmer & Lovelace are all so inconsistent.
I know Coach mentioned last week that he even asked Rush if he'd like to come off the bench, which he didn't want to. But I'm not even sure if YSU gains much if you started say Farmer or Lovelace instead. Farmer is worse from 3 and the FT line than Rush. Farmer's mid range game is better than Rush's and probably play's better defense.
We also need better play out of Dynes and Zorgvol. Dynes has been non-existent the last 3 games. 0 points and just 1 block and has played a total of just over 22 mins during that stretch. Also during that stretch, Zorgvol has just 3 points and only 1 block. So between the 2 they have just 3 points and 2 blocks in 3 games. Dynes has seemed lost in recent games and I'm sure that's why his mins have dried up.
I haven't heard any update on Bates in awhile. He's missed 9 games now and Coach acted like it wasn't a serious injury and he was day-to-day. Seemed like weeks ago Coach was confident of getting him back, now nothing has been said recently. There was times he added a nice spark off the bench and I feel like YSU could have used that at times in recent games.
Outside of the beginning of the season, this is honestly the least confident I've been with YSU since the end of 2 seasons ago. The last time YSU played really well was the Wright State road game on ESPNU. Since then they are 2-3 needing OT to beat Milwaukee at home and really not playing that great in their home win against RMU. Bad road losses to PFW and CSU and losing at home to GB without their leading scorer when so much was at stake.
It's going to take a hell of an effort to sweep these teams. I'm hoping for a split, but unfortunately I wouldn't be shocked if YSU loses both. You need to be playing your best basketball of the season this time of the year and unfortunately YSU isn't.
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Ysu has 6 loses and not 7.
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Mud you made some good points especially of consistent players vs inconsistent. Rush is the number one on this list. He's too talented and experienced and i'm wondering if he's trying to play too fast.
Dynes is still a work in progress and his minutes probably depend on the style of the teams they play. Green Bay and Ft Wayne spread the floor with a lot of screening and he's not there yet for that.
You're are right about the team not playing as well as they were earlier in conference play and some of these wins have been struggles to go along with some tough losses. With the exception of a couple teams I think that most of these teams in the Horizon are pretty even and YSU could easily beat any of them and also lose to any of them. We saw this last season too and that's college basketball. It's a long season and most teams have their peeks and valleys.
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Almost game time. PFW is beating GB by 22 at half. Good news. Now we got to beat MKE. Tough task.
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YSU is a 2.5-3.5 point favorite.
I was surprised GB was only a 1.5-2.5 point favorite at home against PFW, but Vegas must have knew something. That halftime score is shocking.
Barring a total collapse by Oakland and a bunch of other things happening, the regular season championship is out of reach for YSU, but a GB loss tonight keeps a #2 seed well within reach if YSU can take care of business.
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I already don't like the start of this game. Turning the ball over, giving up 3s & have missed 2 points blank shots
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What a horrendous start to the 2nd half. Blown a 14-pont halftime lead in just over 8 mins and scored just 6 points. Can't make 3s and getting out-hustled.
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This is the problem with piecing together a team each year and living by the 3. All you can hope is for the team to get hot in March.
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As we go into ot the only word I can use is UGLY. Btw how many time outs does Milwaukee get. It seems like they used 4 in the last 5 minutes.
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YSU 84 Uwm 80 in or
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Whew...that was exhausting! If nothing else, it's good to finally win an ugly, close game. I had my doubts when YSU lost the lead and got down 3 but credit to keep on playing. I really was concerned going to OT, but YSU played really well.
John Lovelace won that game for YSU.
Thompson had an up and down game. He didn't score for the longest time, missed 2 key FT in OT and the bad turnover late, but made some nice plays.
How many layups and point blank shots did YSU miss? Seem like YSU really struggles with that.
And it did seem like Milwaukee used a ton of timeouts.
Really continue to struggle shooting 3's...just 5-24.
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Gabe Dynes = Milwaukee Kryptonite. I'm guessing that was his first double double to go along with protecting and altering in the post.
DJ with another expected and consistent double double. John Lovelace was great late in the game and OT with some phenominal put back slams. Nice homecoming.
Thompson had a bad night shooting but he still played his rear off and I'm sure he'll play better at Green bay. Three point shooting has been horrific. Need to even out the percentages going forward from three.
First time in D1 winning 20 games back to back ?
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Big win. GB next. Our bigs were tremendous in the paint defensively. Some of those fouls really weren't fouls. But now GB who shots a ton of 3's so Lovelace will probably start over dynes. We are only half game behind GB for 2nd place.
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Penguin girls came back from 18-point deficit at NKU to even their league ledger at 9-9!
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#1 Cleveland state next for the women. Big home game.
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YSU is a 6.5-7 point favorite. Surprised by that.
Green Bay has scored less than 60 points in their last 2 games which have been losses.
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YSU 71 UWGB 59
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We won and won by 12. Looked good. We can play fast or slow it down. Detroit next at home Wednesday
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Excellent win. Nice to get even with GB. Especially with the way GB acted when they won in Youngstown.
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So if we win next week, does that lock in the second seed?
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So if we win next week, does that lock in the second seed?
Oakland lost to Wrtght state by 20. Green Bay has two more tough games (CSU and UWM) left and YSU only has 1 game left (last place Detroit).
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If we tied at 6 losses, Green Bay would control the tiebreaker and get the second seed. They beat Oakland once. But the odds of Green Bay beating both Cleveland and Milwaukee on the road would seem to be slim.
If we tied at 6 losses with Wright State, we would earn the second seed.
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Doesn't matter scenarios we just cannot let our game stop to flow in correct way. Detroit is in every game they have played since we beat them. They are dangerous team without anything to lose. We have a bad game and they play best game of the year would be the only way they can best us. Calhoun will have the team ready I am confident.. He will.
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Rob Schmidt told coach his team is still in the running for a regular season co-championship! I don't see how that is possible when Oakland beat us twice!
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I believe that is for seeding only. We can share it with same record but they get the #1 seed in tournament based on head to head is what I understand. Am I correct?
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Even if that is true that we would share it with the same record that seems incredibly unlikely... Oakland's last opponent is 1 win Detroit Mercy.
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Nice win by YSU. Entering this weekend, I thought it was going to be extremely difficult to get a sweep after beating Milwaukee in OT and losing at the buzzer to GB at home. They weren't the prettiest of wins, but that's ok because for most of the year YSU hasn't been able to win these types of games.
Nice to see Rush get back to his self. I've said all along, in order for YSU to have a shot in the tourney, they need Rush to score the ball. He also played well defensively with 4 steals. Had he struggled tonight, this would have been a much closer game. Thompson was excellent, reminded me of DQ or Cohill on those clear outs down the stretch. Burns is simply a double-double machine. His game is so consistent it's unreal.
GB has now lost 3 in a row, all at home, and hasn't scored 60 points in any of their losses. Still not sure how we'd stack if Reynolds had played in either game.
The win clinched both a first round bye and a home game as YSU. Now to take care of business against Detroit and that would be a nice way to head into the tourney winning 3 straight and 4 out of 5.
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I thought the same thing when Thompson went iso on the last 3 possessions it was like they did last year with Cohill.
Probably the best help defense of the season and it was nice to see another team uncomfortable with pressure.
The press was a nice wrinkle. Really like when Ziggy and Burns are in the backcourt applying pressure since you have two guys with long arms and Burns can really move his feet and they're both strong and not to mention you have Dynes as the last line of defense.
I want to say it was a great defense yesterday but GB went 6 of 22 from three and a lot of those were open looks. If GB was hot it might of been a different game.
I think YSU is more effective in up-tempo than a set offense. Love when Burns gets it and goes fast as long as they're not throwing low bounce passes to the bigs.
Rush was key to the win but I'm wondering if he shoud move in and take the two sometimes instead of the foot and a half behind the three point line. To use a baseball anaolgy get a single and stay on base instead of gambling for 2nd and getting thrown out. Maybe his shooting percentage will go up and it might help the team better although I get the thrill of banging in a three.
I see no way that Detroit goes into Oakland and wins and irregardless they beat us twice so they have a lock on the #1 seed even though it would be nice to have another championship banner.
Coach C is really spoiling us. Last season a championship and this year on a cusp with a completely new team.
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I thought the same thing when Thompson went iso on the last 3 possessions it was like they did last year with Cohill.
Probably the best help defense of the season and it was nice to see another team uncomfortable with pressure.
The press was a nice wrinkle. Really like when Ziggy and Burns are in the backcourt applying pressure since you have two guys with long arms and Burns can really move his feet and they're both strong and not to mention you have Dynes as the last line of defense.
I want to say it was a great defense yesterday but GB went 6 of 22 from three and a lot of those were open looks. If GB was hot it might of been a different game.
I think YSU is more effective in up-tempo than a set offense. Love when Burns gets it and goes fast as long as they're not throwing low bounce passes to the bigs.
Rush was key to the win but I'm wondering if he shoud move in and take the two sometimes instead of the foot and a half behind the three point line. To use a baseball anaolgy get a single and stay on base instead of gambling for 2nd and getting thrown out. Maybe his shooting percentage will go up and it might help the team better although I get the thrill of banging in a three.
I see no way that Detroit goes into Oakland and wins and irregardless they beat us twice so they have a lock on the #1 seed even though it would be nice to have another championship banner.
Coach C is really spoiling us. Last season a championship and this year on a cusp with a completely new team.
I was discussing the GB 3-point shooting today with someone and said what you did. GB had a ton of wide open looks and missed them; 6-22 as you said. In the home loss to them they went 14-29 with obviously the game winner being a 3. The 14-29 was crazy shooting and that's not going to be typical. They shoot 34% from the year so they were at the opposite ends of the spectrum in both YSU games. I'm not sure how the games go had Reynolds played.
Last year Reynolds was with Wyoming and after his 3rd concussion in early February he was done for the year. This year he missed the first YSU game due to an illness and his missed the last 2 due to a lower body injury suffered in practice.
As far as Rush, last year 56% of his shots were 3's; this year it's 69%. Last year I thought he was much better at getting to the rim as well as finishing; this year he's struggled. He rarely ever takes mid range shots. It was nice to see him yesterday make that fake on the 3 and move up and knock down that mid-range shot. He's such a streaky player and seems to play so much better on both ends of the court when he scores. I thought he played one of his best defensive games of the year as well too and had 4 steals.
Even though I don't think YSU created any turnovers on the press, it really slowed down GB even more so than they play. It would be nice once in awhile for YSU to create some turnovers on the press, but rarely happens. Lovelace's length and jumping ability is the best chance for that. I know when Calhoun first came, he wanted to press all the time, but it never seemed to work.
As far as Detroit, only 7 times in their 29 losses have they been less than double digits. They lost by 15 to Oakland at home.
With yesterday's win and Oakland's loss, YSU did move up to 125 in the net rankings and Oakland dropped 9 spots to 130. The home loss to Green Bay was the one that hurt the worst for the net rankings, but the home loss to Oakland is the one that really did YSU in for winning the regular season title.
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Coach’s weekly press conference today:
https://youtu.be/bQnBKBNiAUA
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Without the automatic bid for the post season tournament (non NCAA), the regular season champion does not really carry as much significance as in the past.
Therefore, it is more about seeding, home court advantage and first round bye. Winning the tournament to gain the automatic bid to the big dance is really the only objective anymore.
In order to win the tournament, the team needs to peak at the right time ( it’s like the trials for Olympic team are conducted very close to the Olympic so the selected athletes are peaking at the right time) and be a little lucky.
The league is so balanced this year, it is not out of the questions that any of the top 6 teams could win the tournament.
Let us hope YSU is the one. Go Penguins…
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Watch out for PFW. They have won a lot lately except for the last game. Plus it's in Indiana.. sounds like if they can make it to the final 4 spots it is anyone's game. League is so balanced top to bottom. Including Detroit.
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Coach said Bates is out for the season as he's already had surgery. I kind of figured when nothing has been said of late and didn't see him on the bench lately. I was hopeful for his return. There were times this season he really sparked the team off the bench. He had a lot of energy on both side of the floor and could hit some 3's.
My rankings would be the following
1. Oakland
2. YSU
3. Wright St.
4. Green Bay
5. NKU
6. Milwaukee
7. CSU
8. PFW
9. RMU
10. IUPUI
11. Detroit
Oakland always seems to choke in the tourney. I've said all the year the team that scares me the most is Wright St. They underachieved for much of the year but are coming on strong.
I think NKU & Milwaukee are pretty close and then not much of a drop off to CSU & PFW, which I think are pretty close.
I think any of the top 6 can win it all. I can see CSU and PFW winning a game, maybe 2, but not 4 in a row