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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 22, 2023, 11:27:38 AM »
This is the coaches 4th year and most of the players playing have a lot of experience some in 5th year. These excuses aren’t supported by the facts.  Just as his saying how good our defense was coming into the season.  Worst defense since Wolford.



You are incorrect.  He was hired February of 2020.  This is the 3rd season under Phillips not the 4th. 

The AD would have helped him if he would have let Pelini go in October of 2019 because he could have recruited better for 2020. But that wasn't the case.  He was hired in February  two days after signing day.  Therefore, he didn't have time to evaluate talent and recruit to it
  He was hired AFTER the signing period in 2020.  That's a huge handicap.  Then he has his season cancelled.  So you have a coach that hasn't coached a game in 2020 that got hired AFTER signing day and then had his first season delayed by cowards that cancelled the football season and pushed it to 2021. 

He hasn't even finished coaching season #3 and people want to fire him? 


Look at the f***ing roster!   It's a 180.  Get your facts straight.  I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him coaching season #3.  It's technically #2 based on the hiring date.  He needs to be able to make the team his own before you pass judgement.  I could argue he's in season #2.
 It's not his own roster yet. Far from it.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 22, 2023, 10:27:58 AM »
I'm sorry, but Phillips has had plenty of ample time to turn the program around period. Let's all stop Using that excuse of the covid year everybody had it. Defense was pathetic and I see it not getting any better.  we need a new defensive coordinator a new scheme, or something.
we are in the middle of the 3rd season.  His handicap is that he stated with NOTHING.  It's a complete rebuild.  Listen to Mark Farley's comments about YSU.  He said that since Phillips has arrived Youngstown has returned to looking like a Missouri Valley team.  He said that it's been several years since we've had the players to match up.  He also said that YSU has this"will" about them to win games like we did in years past.

The roster is young. The guy has had 2 seasons, one of which was abbreviated. He's in the midst of his 3rd year and we are ready to fire him?  He doesn't even have his full roster playing yet. 

I find these kinds of remarks unfair and incoherent.  Name someone that would be a better replacement that we could get on our budget. 

If we doesn't win in year 5, then you can get critical.  What he and the team need is support. 

Look at the improvement in the national statistics.  You think Pelini was great?  He sucked at recruiting, which is 85% of the way you win.  He used Wolford's recruits to win and then the sharp drop off came because his recruiting sucked ass.

Games in the Missouri Valley Football Conference are not going to always go as you think.  People are ridiculous.

Unbelievable. 

Who fired a coach after 3 years when significant progress is being made.


We have inexperienced coaches and inexperienced players.  That can be fixed.  As I've stated before, donate to the program for better assistant coaches if you want to see that kind of change.  The head coach is doing a fine job.  But it's ultimately up to the kids to clean up the critical penalties.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 21, 2023, 10:12:15 PM »
We won. Look at the roster.  Kids are young. They are inconsistent because they're young. We will get better.

Most coaches have a season to learm the league in an off-season.  While this is Phillips 3rd year, it's really his second year because the first year they played back to back seasons a few months apart (Covid spring season and then fall) and had to turn the roster, which was most important. 

The league is tough and games don't necessarily go the way you expect them to go. 

It's a W.  You are what your record says you are.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 18, 2023, 10:17:43 AM »
Guys, we need to show the committee that we can win multiple game-in-a-row. They need to show me this as well. If not, I do not wish to be embarrassed in the play-off with an appearance. BTW, at 8-3, YSU will have defeated #1 and #5. we are in (and at home) with out a doubt.

Also, let's not forget that we need to gain post-season exposure. YSU no longer has any idea what it takes to fight your way through the crowd of teams in the post-season. So maybe there is some good to an embarrassingly short run in the play-off, as opposed to none?

Conference games are the same as playoff games, if not more challenging than facing most teams in the tournament.  There's such a stark difference between the MVFC teams and everyone else that we get playoff experience every week.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 17, 2023, 05:38:12 PM »
knowing the committee, they would probably leave us out at 8-3 anyway!   Which would be an embarrassment to FCS football!  They chose Delaware over YSU last year at 7-4, and that was a complete joke!

Not to mention Delaware was losing consecutive games.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / 2023 YSU Football Starting Lineup
« on: October 17, 2023, 09:09:19 AM »
Since I live very far away and I can only watch games via ESPN,  I therefore don't have access to a GameDay program.

The roster on YSU's site doesn't show the starting lineup.  Does anyone have the ability to list starters and backups ?

I am wondering because our Left Tackle is a 6'7" 315 lb Freshman that's only going to get better.


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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota TV announcers Etc.
« on: October 17, 2023, 06:59:58 AM »
Our announcers are excellent, we have coverage issues ... radio & TV both. Idaho is the reason for the game.  Montana had nothing to do with it, except they have a better chance of winning against an FCS opponent.


Hannon is excellent l. Everything else is not  good and homerish

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 16, 2023, 12:29:19 PM »
I agree almost 100 percent with powers last point. I have been following for a long time but new to posting.  Well said. Btw check out Youngstown penguin podcast if you haven't already.  Go guins

Where can we find the podcast?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 16, 2023, 11:22:53 AM »
Ignore my last post.  I've added to this one. Something happened to the board when I posted it and it got duplicated

YSU is a shell of itself because the program was bled to death by bad coaching.

I happen to think Phillips is the best hire since Tressel.  However, we no longer have the winning level revenue to support the best assistant coaches.  We are definitely in a better spot that we were when Phillips arrived.  Look at the current roster.  His plan makes sense. We have to develop these kids, meaning we get kids that we have to build up in the weight room.  He's trying to recruit 2 sport athletes with size.  That's a great combination for the MVFC.

We need to stick to the plan. And the AD needs to stay out of placing any requirements on recruiting local kids (if that rumor is true).  We need only local athletes that can add to the team so there won't be many of them with the population decline over the years.

Unless we were in the MAC in FBS, you have to stay in the MVFC. If you win the conference your chances at winning the title are >90%. The best of the MVFC is the measuring stick.  If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.  There's no trophy for making the playoffs only to not be good enough to win it all.  We have a built-in reference point playing in this conference. We need to stick with this.  You may not see the results immediately in wins and losses but we are still building depth.  And we have some inexperienced coaches that also need time to develop.   If you want the best assistant coaches and you don't have to develop them, then donate money to the program (which we once had due to success) to speed up the process. 

Sometimes I don't know what people are seeing.  We've got a a competitive team that would destroy 90% of the FCS but it's not yet good enough to win a title.  We need a few more pieces and more depth and have to stop this local focus nonsense to get the best we can get and not placate to the locals. 

The FCS selection process is unfair. It's been unfair for long time and we aren't the team that gets the benefit of the doubt.  Ask USD if they would like a rematch.  Ask UNI if they want to play us again.  Nobody wants to deal with us because we hand out injuries and bloody noses from our physicality and our "will" to win.  We make a lot of mistakes. We have coaching blunders from time to time (and sometimes in critical situations).   That can be corrected.  It's far more difficult to get talent and develop that talent.  Jaleel McLaughlin helped us win games we shouldn't have won last year.  Probably 2-3 late in games where he broke free.  We are missing him this year, but our games are far more competitive on a play to play basis this year.  People just don't see it because they have to have playoffs NOW damnit!  Realize that last year we started the season with Crenshaw. We could barely complete a pass. We are winning with some of Pelini's recruits that were decent players. Last year we got blown out at NDSU and had low scoring games where we had to come from behind to win. Last year Indiana State scored 42 points on YSU. Do you think that would reasonably happen this year?  I do not.   ALL of our games this year have been competitive.  There IS improvement. Are we where we want to be?  No. But look at the freshman and sophomores in the roster that are coming up in the next couple of years. And next year, we get a lot of players coming back.

Impatience can cause people to do foolish things. Who are you going to replace Phillips with? Who's going to do a better job? Are you willing to take that risk when weve seen so much improvement? Are players a problem in the community? Do they represent the university well?  How about the fight they show for 4 quarters vs the way the kids gave up when under Pelini?  There's a lot more there than meets the eye. Player and staff development are some of the most fundamental aspects of coaching. He's making progress with limited resources. You only see the tip of the iceberg.

Tressel's early record at YSU.

1986: 2-9
1987: 8-4
1988: 4-7
1989: 9-4 playoff loss in second round.
1990: 11-1 playoff loss in first round.

Then we went on a run.

Phillips didn't really have the same opportunities because of COVID bullsh**.

Phillips record thus far (and he started with nothing because Pelini depleted the entire cupboard).

2020: 1-6 (actually played in spring of 2021 recruiting impacted due to stoppage of normal recruiting practices)
2021: 3-7 note short turnaround played in the fall 2021)
2022: 7-4

Are you willing to pull the plug this fast? 

People are ridiculous.

Heacock's situation is far different. He started with a successful program and got a contract extension when Marcus Mason showed up.  But as Paladin has been saying for years, and got censored from this site for expressing his opinions, he was correct. Heacock wàs not recruiting well enough to keep up with a changing FCS landscape in terms of talent.

Wolford reversed that. But Wolford was not mature enough to develop coaches at the time he arrived here.  He was a great recruiter.  Pelini took his recruits and won with Wolford's recruits.  Phillips started with NOTHING and Phillips is competing in the MVFC during a time when it's clearly head and shoulders over all other conferences.  Right now it's the best conference in the FCS.  It wasn't that way when Heacock was here.  The MVFC had a rising power in NDSU when Wolford came in the scene but it wasn't like it is today.  Pelini's record got worse because once Wolford's recruits left, his recruiting level was not good enough to keep up.

We are on an upward trajectory in the most difficult conference and that perspective cannot be overlooked.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 16, 2023, 10:47:34 AM »
I disagree with any negative comments on here. Bottom line this was a very good team. We played well to come back.  Made too many mistakes down the stretch. Those things we can fix.  We have more talent now than we did in the 90's unfortunately in our conference there is a ton of talent. Tressel could not even win the Gateway. It is hard to win on the road. That being said, we need to learn to do it. Also, did anyone think a few of the big calls that hurt us were the wrong call.  The targeting that was reversed was textbook targeting.  The facemask on offense I didn't see. The league / refs already sent us an apology for allowing Northern Iowa to win on 2 illegal shifts that caused us to jump offsides on critical downs.

Great points!

WOW typical dumbassery on this board.. Last time I checked Tressel coached 4 years in the "Gateway" Won the national championship 97, National runner up 99 and got bounced in the 1st round in 2000. Who gives a sh** if you win a conference when you make the playoffs   SMFH !  :o Heacock is the only coach to win the Gateway/MVFC crown and did it 2x's

YSU is a shell of itself, shame crap different year. The diehard fans that have followed YSU forever are even sick of this display of football.

Even the exciting roundball team sh** the bed when it counted last year LOL!!

Other than that GoooGuins and "leave no doubt"!

YSU is a shell of itself because the program was bled to death by bad coaching.

I happen to think Phillips is the best hire since Tressel.  However, we no longer have the winning level revenue to support the best assistant coaches.  We are definitely in a better spot that we were when Phillips arrived.  Look at the current roster.  His plan makes sense. We have to develop these kids, meaning we get kids that we have to build up in the weight room.  He's trying to recruit 2 sport athletes with size.  That's a great combination for the MVFC.

We need to stick to the plan. And the AD needs to stay out of placing any requirements on recruiting local kids (if that rumor is true).  We need only local athletes that can add to the team so there won't be many of them with the population decline over the years.

Unless we were in the MAC in FBS, you have to stay in the MVFC. If you win the conference your chances at winning the title are >90%. The best of the MVFC is the measuring stick.  If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.  There's no trophy for making the playoffs only to not be good enough to win it all.  We have a built-in reference point playing in this conference. We need to stick with this.  You may not see the results immediately in wins and losses but we are still building depth.  And we have some inexperienced coaches that also need time to develop.   If you want the best assistant coaches and you don't have to develop them, then donate money to the program (which we once had due to success) to speed up the process. 

Sometimes I don't know what people are seeing.  We've got a a competitive team that would destroy 90% of the FCS but it's not yet good enough to win a title.  We need a few more pieces and more depth and have to stop this local focus nonsense to get the best we can get and not placate to the locals. 

The FCS selection process is unfair. It's been unfair for long time and we aren't the team that gets the benefit of the doubt.  Ask USD if they would like a rematch.  Ask UNI if they want to play us again.  Nobody wants to deal with us because we hand out injuries and bloody noses from our physicality and our "will" to win.  We make a lot of mistakes. We have coaching blinders from time to time (and sometimes in critical situations).   That can be corrected.  It's far more difficult to get talent and develop that talent.  Jaleel McLaughlin helped us win games we shouldn't have won last year.  Probably 2-3 late in games where he broke free.  We are missing him this year, but our games are far more competitive on a play to play basis this year.  People just don't see it because they have to have playoffs NOW damnit!.  Realize that last year we started the season with Crenshaw. We could barely complete a pass. We are winning with some of Pelini's recruits that were decent players. Last year we got blown out at NDSU and had low scoring games where we had to come from behind to win. Last year Indiana State scored 42 points on YSU.
Do you think that would reasonably happen this year?  I do not.   ALL of our games this year have been competitive.  There IS improvement. Are we where we want to be?  No. But look at the freshman and sophomores in the roster that are coming up in the next couple of years.

Impatience can cause people to do foolish things. Who are you going to replace Phillips with? Who's going to do a better job? Are you willing to take that risk when weve seen so much improvement? Are players a problem in the community? Do they represent the university well?  How about the fight they show for 4 quarters vs the way the kids gave up when under Pelini?  There's a lot more there than meets the eye. Player and staff development are some of the most fundamental aspects of coaching. He's making progress with limited resources. You only see the top of the iceberg.

Tressel's early record at YSU.

1986: 2-9
1987: 8-4
1988: 4-7
1989: 9-4 playoff loss in second round.
1990: 11-1 playoff loss in first round.

Then we went on a run.

Phillips didn't really have the same opportunities because of COVID bullsh**.

Phillips record thus far (and he started with nothing because Pelini depleted the entire cupboard).

2020: 1-6 (actually played in spring of 2021 recruiting impacted due to stoppage of normal recruiting practices)
2021: 3-7 note short turnaround played in the fall 2021)
2022: 7-4

Are you willing to pull the plug this fast? 

People are ridiculous.

Heacock's situation is far different. He started with a successful program and got a contract extension when Marcus Mason showed up.  But as Paladin has been saying for years, and got censored from this site for expressing his opinions, he was correct. Heacock wàs not recruiting well enough to keep up with a changing FCS landscape in terms of talent.

Wolford reversed that. But Wolford was not mature enough to develop coaches at the time he arrived here.  He was a great recruiter.  Pelini took his recruits and won with Wolford's recruits.  Phillips started with NOTHING and Phillis is competing in the MVFC when it's clearly the best conference in the FCS.  It wasn't that way when Heacock was here and the MVFC had a rising power in NDSU when Wolford came in the scene.  Pelini's record for worse because once Wolford's recruits left, his recruiting level was not good enough to keep up.

We are on an upward trajectory in the most difficult conference and that perspective cannot be overlooked.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 15, 2023, 04:19:46 PM »
I disagree with any negative comments on here. Bottom line this was a very good team. We played well to come back.  Made too many mistakes down the stretch. Those things we can fix.  We have more talent now than we did in the 90's unfortunately in our conference there is a ton of talent. Tressel could not even win the Gateway. It is hard to win on the road. That being said, we need to learn to do it. Also, did anyone think a few of the big calls that hurt us were the wrong call.  The targeting that was reversed was textbook targeting.  The facemask on offense I didn't see. The league / refs already sent us an apology for allowing Northern Iowa to win on 2 illegal shifts that caused us to jump offsides on critical downs.

Great points!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 15, 2023, 11:22:10 AM »
Penguin power you are 100 % wrong,  Calhoun has. Brought total excitement  to the basketball program.  They were filling up the bleachers and there was a buzz for the team,  We are winning  plus he plays COACHES  AN exciting style of play.

 The fans back a winner in Youngstown it doesn’t matter what the sport.  Even the junior hockey team sold out during the playoffs and the won the championship.


I feel it seems the football program  generates  very little interest  even I have lost interest.  How long are we going to live off the  90’s .    It’s time to clean house get new blood from the athletic  dept, the marketing  dept, and even clean up the sidelines on the hangers ion from that area  Penguin club.   Other than the Tressel era and a  run in the 70.$. Football has been mediocre.

Sometimes I like to post controversial topics to get some excitement on this board. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 15, 2023, 07:33:49 AM »
My bad!  I guess the bunnies are coming here!  Still a tall task!


SDSU is the eventual National Champion.  We need to see how we stack up to them. That's who we need to be better than to win it all..

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 14, 2023, 11:43:11 PM »
Mens basketball has the potential to be better than last year...  I have attended 3 or 4 practices and they look super athletic. Possibly can win the league.  Trust me on this we are deeper and have a strong transfer class.  We have lots of size and experience.

The problem here is that football is the only sport that matters.  No one gives a sh** about non-contact Olympic sports.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: South Dakota Week
« on: October 14, 2023, 11:23:37 PM »
If we win our and beat SDSU we will probably get in.  Power in the conference is shifting.

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