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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: goodnews on November 15, 2014, 06:34:54 PM
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This once feared venue full of majic must return. Not ONLY has Wolf gone 4-10 in the final 3 games of every season. He and his teams have neglected to protect their home field. Wolfs record in conference games at Stambaugh is 10-10....... In order to be successful in any sport you must WIN at home.
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I agree, we have a real mess, no one in the stands to boost the team but as long as we finish seasons like we have been people will not come.
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Hard to have a home field advantage when there are 1,000 people in the stands.. And the students are on the opposite side of the field. Stambaugh is not one of the nicest facilities in the FCS anymore. Face it people.
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Why go watch a game and a team that will literally rip your heart out and step on it? The coaching staff has sucked what little life was left in this program. If he's not fired on Sunday morning next week, I may have to convince my family to give up our season tickets.
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Two inexcusable losses at home this season. Ind St. and Western Ill.
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Why go watch a game and a team that will literally rip your heart out and step on it? The coaching staff has sucked what little life was left in this program. If he's not fired on Sunday morning next week, I may have to convince my family to give up our season tickets.
I completely get this comment. Same conversation is happening at our house.
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Hard to have a home field advantage when there are 1,000 people in the stands.. And the students are on the opposite side of the field. Stambaugh is not one of the nicest facilities in the FCS anymore. Face it people.
Stambaugh is past due for major renovations. I wonder if the University is willing to spend the $10-$20 million needed to upgrade the stadium
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Not on a loser they wont. Why spend 10-20 mil to have 1000 people in the stands? Not good business.
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They are supposedly getting a new video board and some new lighting. Yay
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Froze my buns off yesterday, I think the fact that it was empty made it even colder.
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Maybe heated seats are in order. It's never as cold when you win. <sigh>
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I haven't been there since 2006, have they at least replaced the scoreboard since then?
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Froze my buns off yesterday, I think the fact that it was empty made it even colder.
I was very comfortable until I visited the restroom, always so darn warm in there that it takes a while to feel ok out side again.
I will miss your brother always thought that he was an asset.
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Since the last home game has been played, it's time to announce I did not buy Penguin Club seats this year. Did not buy ANY tickets this year after several decades of having Penguin Club seats. We gave them up. Never attended any games. Watched on TV or online. I dislike the AD and the mess he has created with the money sports that we pulled the plug this year. No more purchases till he is gone. As for the rest of the crowd missing from the stadium, it's been down hill for a long time and I don't see it coming back quick if at all. I actually feel good about it because I found that it's the only way to force their hand.
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Paladin ...the only thing that you are doing, if you ever truly were a Penguin Club member, is losing your upper-tailgate lot passes. If you do not feel that the administration cares what you think, as Penguin Club member ...do you think they care more now that you are not? The way to affect change is to use the power that you have as a member.
Quality people have quality traits. Strollo is one of those. I live fairly far away and only make 3 or 4 PC events a year ...but Strollo is in attendance at every one of them. He sat at our table an talked (at the spring game tailgate party) for about 2-hours. No topic has ever been taboo at any of these events. I am 48-years-old and I was one of the youngest persons there. That is a shame. I walked past him at a basketball game last year and he called me by name, dragged me to a great seat and sat with me for a half. Granted, my father was a long-time figure with ties to the department ...but that was quite some time ago. I guarantee you he does this all the time with many other people, because he does care. At yesterday's game I was talking with coach Gillispie selling apparel for the team. I have never met him ...really nice guy BTW. Strollo walked by and said with a smile ...did you renew your Diamond Club?
In another instance ...I went to (then Buckeye coach) Tressel's book signing. I walked up to him and he signed the first book of two. I asked him if he remembered my father. He said of course and asked me how his eyes were doing (my father had vision issues, which is why I attended all of these events). So Tressel was not just saying "yes", just to say yes. Well last year I was out on the field for his inductions. I walked past him and he stopped me and asked me how I was doing ...he called me by my father's name ...but none-the-less.
These things tell me what kind of men that Tressel and Strollo are. They are the kind of men who do care what you have to say and will listen.
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Tressels is such a good quality man.
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1AA--
Strollo, per your description, seems like a nice fellow who likes you. That's great.
In terms of job performance, the FB playoff appearances were an annual expectation under the former AD, and stopped immediately as soon as Strollo became AD. This is the #1 sport at YSU.
I'm glad Olympic sports are doing well, but that's only a portion of his job Every school is doing facility upgrades (JMU is unrecognizable to my wife who went there in the 90s), so that rationale holds no water.
The signature sport at YSU deteriorates immediately at the start of his role as AD (the worst post-season drought since the 70s) , continues to this very day, and he is held unaccountable?
IMO, seeing Strollo and Slocum collect checks and under-perform gives me the impression that the YSU Athletic Department really doesn't care about improvement or success. Getting by is good enough. I say that as a fan and alumni who has attended MBB and FB games for over 40 years.
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Nation,
Although I agree with your analysis, Strollo is no longer an issue. He was when we had university presidents who were either unconcerned or ignorant about intercollegiate athletics. Now the board of trustees will make major decisions based upon the recommendations of Jim Tressel. Strollo will basically handle financial matters which by all accounts he does very well.
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Wick---
That is reassuring, but there still is a lack of accountability. It is unfair for Heacock, Hill, Martin, and Wolf to get fired....but Strollo lingers around as if he was a competent AD.
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For the record, I did not attend one basketball game last year. Nor will I this year. Online or TV will do. The AD had destroyed Olympic sports for a decade. Made two hires that destroyed women's BB and men's has been broken for more than decade. Football? Lol. He has ruined non-league game scheduling. Promotion of YSU games are a joke. he caters to the big money guys and screws the fans. He was hired because of politics and keeps his job for the reasons unknown to me. To evaluate him would be to fire him. Nice guy ? Sounds like the heacock crew again. No money till he is gone.
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Nation & Wick. I am not sure you realize just what Strollo does.
Perhaps his biggest challenges (as with any AD) include staying atop changing rules; political requirements with coaches in the program, school leaders, and the public; and pressures from changing budgets. You cannot be a butcher. Every action Strollo takes has 6-different reactions. He has to please the members of the academics, athletics, media, coaches/staff (aka union crap), fans, various business units. All of this with a mind to staying within a budget.
Sure he provides guidance and direction to the program, and you feel this is not going the right way. Realize the school really did not even have an AD 30-to-40-years ago? We are a growing school and Strollo is the first professional AD we have ever had. Malmusar and Tressel simply made sure we stayed compliant and made schedules. To get the type of AD you want, we would need to quite a bit more money than we can afford.
Two items:
1. Strollo has had to learn many of his skills on-the-job; but I feel he has learned quite well. As with Heacock, Strollo knows when it is time to go ...but I hope this time is not near.
2. Tressel is not the Athletic department's savior. Tressel will have almost NOTHING to do with Athletics. If he did, do you not think the NCAA would have blocked his appointment? Or at least required some clarification of responsibilities? As athletics impact the university as a whole, he will have some limited involvement.
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Tressels is such a good quality man.
I thought that at one time until he was proven a cheat & liar
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Since the last home game has been played, it's time to announce I did not buy Penguin Club seats this year. Did not buy ANY tickets this year after several decades of having Penguin Club seats. We gave them up. Never attended any games. Watched on TV or online. I dislike the AD and the mess he has created with the money sports that we pulled the plug this year. No more purchases till he is gone. As for the rest of the crowd missing from the stadium, it's been down hill for a long time and I don't see it coming back quick if at all. I actually feel good about it because I found that it's the only way to force their hand.
Akron is a short drive, I hear that they have a few empty seats, we will miss you.
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Tressels is such a good quality man.
I thought that at one time until he was proven a cheat & liar
If you are a Christian you will understand the human condition. He never committed a crime but rather broke ncaa rules which is a joke to begin with. Do you really think the ncaa holds an ounce of credibility? It is a cartel. I could give a sh** less. The ncar is a joke and all schools walk a fine line a.day cross it regularly.
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IAA Fan,
What you described in your first paragraph is administrative and budgetary stuff which I agree that Strollo does well. My problem with him was always the selection of coaches. Lots of misses until Bob Boldon and now John Barnes.
I stated that Tressel would make "major decisions" and I stand by that. He won't be involved in the details of the athletic department, but he will have the primary voice in the selection of the football coach. That will be done behind the scenes with Strollo serving as the university spokesman.
Incidentally, in the useless trivia category, the university had a well-respected professional athletic director before you were even born. His name was Willard Webster. He did okay. Kept around a basketball coach by the name of Rosselli for decades. Even had a good football coach (in his prime) named Dike Beede.
To all the Tressel haters:
Of course, Tressel broke NCAA rules and it cost him dearly. He lied and covered up a very serious crime; namely, his players exchanged their PERSONAL PROPERTY for services. How dare they do that in a free, capitalist society.
Meanwhile, about 170 miles to the east of Youngstown, another head football coach looked the other way as a monster molested children on university property for about a decade. Clearly, Tressel and Paterno committed crimes of the same magnitude.
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What the hell does being Christian have to do with anything? The NCAA rules are not a joke if you plan on making a living by them. They are a reality. A distorted unfairly implemented reality, eerily similar to real life, but a reality none the less. It is amazing the loyalty heaped upon a person for being a good football coach. Apparently he walked on water one day and I missed it.
Now a deflection to Paterno? The nation really missed the day he took 4 footballs and turned them into wine
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IAA Fan,
What you described in your first paragraph is administrative and budgetary stuff which I agree that Strollo does well. My problem with him was always the selection of coaches. Lots of misses until Bob Boldon and now John Barnes.
I stated that Tressel would make "major decisions" and I stand by that. He won't be involved in the details of the athletic department, but he will have the primary voice in the selection of the football coach. That will be done behind the scenes with Strollo serving as the university spokesman.
Incidentally, in the useless trivia category, the university had a well-respected professional athletic director before you were even born. His name was Willard Webster. He did okay. Kept around a basketball coach by the name of Rosselli for decades. Even had a good football coach (in his prime) named Dike Beede.
To all the Tressel haters:
Of course, Tressel broke NCAA rules and it cost him dearly. He lied and covered up a very serious crime; namely, his players exchanged their PERSONAL PROPERTY for services. How dare they do that in a free, capitalist society.
Meanwhile, about 170 miles to the east of Youngstown, another head football coach looked the other way as a monster molested children on university property for about a decade. Clearly, Tressel and Paterno committed crimes of the same magnitude.
Could you imaging if Coach/President Tressel was in the SEC? He'd received a multi-million dollar contract extension and all those players would be running around the NFL right now 8)
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Wick: you are correct about Tressel being involved in a major decision, but then everyone complains about the "good ol' boy" syndrome going on at the university. I guess there is always going to be someone that is not going to like something at the university.
I think Tressel is a smart man & he will deliberately stay away from as much in the way of athletics as he can.
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Tressels is such a good quality man.
I thought that at one time until he was proven a cheat & liar
Spoken like a true Michigan fan :o
You ever coming back for a game? I haven't seen you in years. Trust me there are few enough people I would have spotted you many times this season :-[
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1AA--
Strollo, per your description, seems like a nice fellow who likes you. That's great.
In terms of job performance, the FB playoff appearances were an annual expectation under the former AD, and stopped immediately as soon as Strollo became AD. This is the #1 sport at YSU.
I'm glad Olympic sports are doing well, but that's only a portion of his job Every school is doing facility upgrades (JMU is unrecognizable to my wife who went there in the 90s), so that rationale holds no water.
The signature sport at YSU deteriorates immediately at the start of his role as AD (the worst post-season drought since the 70s) , continues to this very day, and he is held unaccountable?
IMO, seeing Strollo and Slocum collect checks and under-perform gives me the impression that the YSU Athletic Department really doesn't care about improvement or success. Getting by is good enough. I say that as a fan and alumni who has attended MBB and FB games for over 40 years.
My grandfather told me that Youngstown State University at one time was a great Basketball School. He said that the university at one time sold out many times and fans could not get game tickets. He said that was in the 60s'.He said one player named McElroy sometimes scored 100 points in a game. What happened to the YSU basketball program. Games are fun though.
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1AA--
Strollo, per your description, seems like a nice fellow who likes you. That's great.
In terms of job performance, the FB playoff appearances were an annual expectation under the former AD, and stopped immediately as soon as Strollo became AD. This is the #1 sport at YSU.
I'm glad Olympic sports are doing well, but that's only a portion of his job Every school is doing facility upgrades (JMU is unrecognizable to my wife who went there in the 90s), so that rationale holds no water.
The signature sport at YSU deteriorates immediately at the start of his role as AD (the worst post-season drought since the 70s) , continues to this very day, and he is held unaccountable?
IMO, seeing Strollo and Slocum collect checks and under-perform gives me the impression that the YSU Athletic Department really doesn't care about improvement or success. Getting by is good enough. I say that as a fan and alumni who has attended MBB and FB games for over 40 years.
My grandfather told me that Youngstown State University at one time was a great Basketball School. He said that the university at one time sold out many times and fans could not get game tickets. He said that was in the 60s'.He said one player named McElroy sometimes scored 100 points in a game. What happened to the YSU basketball program. Games are fun though.
I was a student at YSU in the 60's. I was unable to get into several games. However, we were playing in the high school field house... South high, Struthers and Austintown. We were also in division 2 at the time. I was the game which McElory scored 72 points. I don't think he scored 100 points.
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I asked my grandfather about what you said..........that Mc Elroy got 72 points not 100. He says he is not sure but 72 may be right.
Anyway, yeah he said they were division 2 at the time. But, who cares they were good. He said with a good coach they could be just as good as in the good ole days.
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We were there (hate to admit it). Mac hit 72. Such an explosive night. I could go and get the program from our archives but I'm tired. Believe me, it happened. Never 100 points tho. What memories from South High Field House about 1965 would be my guess. GEEZ almost 50 years ago. Merry Christmas everyone!
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Well, I was there also with several thousand fans, YSU basketball was being followed by many at that time. Yes, they were Div ll, but they were good and exciting under Dom Rosselli during the late 50's thru the early 70's. Tony Knott was great in the late 50's, then Ronnie Allen and Red Jones were great into the 60's. McElory hit 72, but also had several games scoring in the 40's and 50's.
Many of those teams were rated in the top 5 in the country, usually behind Evansville and So. Illinois and defeated Div 1 teams. That's when YSU basketball had more attendance that football.
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Is South field house still being used? Never been inside there....
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I still get upset thinking of Randolph Macon.
Thinking back about playing bb at South and fb at Campbell, Rayen and Fitch then looking at what we have now, we have come a long way
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My friend just told me that YSU won their game at South Dakota..............that is pretty good. Then she says they are playing again on Saturday. She said YSU is playing Texas A & M. Now, that would be a great game to watch. She says she does not if it will be on tv. Does anyone know? Texas A & M is the really big time, ..........I think.
You are an idiot and should not post here. Take a course in writing. You have no substance, contribute nothing and make the board look stupid.