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Jim Tressel can be very persuasive. He could convince Fickel that YSU is a much better place to jump start his head coaching career than the MAC. Better facilities and more opportunity to succeed. Also, Fickel would have the comfort of knowing Tressel has his back.
Also Fickel may tired of always feeling Urban Meyer is going to bring in his own guy to run the defense. YSU football needs a big shot on the arm, let's face it the other names being mentioned don't do much for more. I think Brian Wright would be an awful hire, no personality from what I remember when he was here before. Also, his career nothing spectacular. We need a star, Fickel is a brand name from one of the top programs in the country.
Issues would be a huge pay cut, and one story I read is that his wife loves Columbus. But for some, power is more important than money.
Regardless, we need a 'wow factor'.
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Better career chance at YSU than the MAC? Tell that to Darrell Hazell, or Dean Pees, or etc. If Luke Fickell comes here based on that train of logic, look for more of the same.
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The only thing I don't understand, yes he would be a head coach... But taking a 400k pay cut? Not so sure that would be alright with him... A lot of the buckeye posters on eleven warriors think he's leaving and that DJ Durkin or Muschamp would come coach defense at OSU. Interesting....
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Laughable
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This thread is going to look really stupid if this is untrue. This is speculation and the thread should read "what if" Luke ...
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Sad everybody wanted the Wolf out and now if true the so called frontrunner handpicked by a legend is a bad choice, Are we that stupid? Everybody wants a local guy even if substandard like Shepas the guy at Mt Union etc and the better recruit the area too when the area can't produce it. Laughable
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yes, what is the basis of this thread? If there is an article out there, please link to it so we do not appear certifiable.
Just because a man is slightly under-qualified to coach OSU, does not mean he could not take a larger college program. Yes there are advantages to YSU over a MAC program, but not much unless he wants something longer term. Obviously I want someone that is long-term.
Fickel became a mini-legend with the Buckeye fans, when he took over for Tressel. I was watching the basketball game when they introduced Meyer and Fickel's standing ovation was amazing. You would have thought the fans did not even care about Meyer.
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Not saying he's the leading candidate but its' being floated around on twitter by some people and being talked about by the OSU guys here.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2014/11/44733/fickell-to-ysu
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Luke Fickle is possibly a good fit. But if he has no understanding that YSU needs to go to FBS/1a, it would be best if he stay at Ohio State.................YSU can beat Ohio State if we can keep our great players at YSU...............
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WHAT???????
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Ah come on!! You know what I mean if we can recurit our great HS players to YSU..........do not act that way you know what I meant. Ohio State is always recruiting in the Mahoning Valley. YSU needs to recruit the players to a FBS/1a football program. Remember, Ohio State earned a National Championship on the back of a Mahoning Valley running back............be nice
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YSU does not recruit the Mahoning valley. aren't enough kids that can play at YSU'a level. Your on a pipe dream if you think otherwise
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There are not many Clarret's that come walking thru doors anymore. One a kind.
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someone explain to me why Fickel would take a 350K a year paycut to be the head coach at YSU ?
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someone explain to me why Fickel would take a 350K a year paycut to be the head coach at YSU ?
Only if he he wants a chance to be a head coach and build a program and be back close to Tress.
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The only reason a major assistant will take the job is if he is being forced out or being fired at the major school. No one takes a huge pay cut to take a HC job at a mid major that he may be fired at in a few years and then not be attractive to hire again as an attractive major assistant.
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I don't know whether Fickell is a good idea or not, but I don't find anything unusual about him taking a position in an FCS school. There are no signs that he is seen as an attractive candidate for a FBS HC job. OSU people are widely divided about him, and he is not a Meyer guy--at some point you want a job where people want you simply for peace of mind. He is a buddy of Everitt Withers, who left OSU for the HC job at James Madison and by all accounts is quite happy there. You've got to believe that the two of them will talk about Withers experience if YSU approaches Fickell.
Some people mistakenly think this is about money. In sports, you get your moment in the spotlight and move on. Very few people stay in the spotlight forever. To have to settle for a $250K-a-year job as HC at YSU isn't a bad gig once you step out of the spotlight, and he's young enough that a successful stint at YSU could result in him moving back into the spotlight later. Hypothetically, Fickell's coming here could happen.
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someone explain to me why Fickel would take a 350K a year paycut to be the head coach at YSU ?
Anyone that pays attention to OSU football knows that Luke's salary and job keeps getting demoted. He made 650K in his one year as head coach at OSU. He made 600K as co-defensive coordinator last year and was making the play calls as DC. His salary dropped to 450K this year and although he kept the title of co-DC, he no longer makes the play calls on defense for OSU. Chris Ash does now. Luke is basically a linebacker coach with a glorified co-DC title now. He is never going to get a HC job at a major university the way things stand. I could see him taking another pay cut to become the head man at YSU. It would allow him the chance to prove himself as a coach and I believe he will think it will give him the chance to become head man at OSU when Urban retires. He has no shot at that now if he stays at OSU as LB coach.
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Pally Hit it on the nose. Its not about the money. Its being where u are wanted and getting a chance to ve your own man.
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Anyone that pays attention to OSU football knows that Luke's salary and job keeps getting demoted. He made 650K in his one year as head coach at OSU. He made 600K as co-defensive coordinator last year and was making the play calls as DC. His salary dropped to 450K this year and although he kept the title of co-DC, he no longer makes the play calls on defense for OSU. Chris Ash does now. Luke is basically a linebacker coach with a glorified co-DC title now. He is never going to get a HC job at a major university the way things stand. I could see him taking another pay cut to become the head man at YSU. It would allow him the chance to prove himself as a coach and I believe he will think it will give him the chance to become head man at OSU when Urban retires. He has no shot at that now if he stays at OSU as LB coach.
That's a really good point, I had the 600K figure in my head, 450 certainly makes a paycut a little more plausible. I've also heard that he doesn't get along well with Urban. Not to mention the fact that Tressel can recruit, I think Tressel could make a compelling case to Fickel on the merits of coming to YSU, rebuilding a program and getting some HC chops.
Just in case anyone was wondering about cost of living differences, according to CNN a 450K salary in Columbus is equal to $436,824 in Youngstown... I was hoping maybe that could be factor but hey we may need every thousand we can get to get him.
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I don't follow Ohio State or any other big time program, so help me out here. Has Fickel spent his entire coaching career at OSU? If so, is it not dangerous to hire a coach who has never proven his abilities as a recruiter? (OSU is one of a handful of schools that recruits itself.)
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I don't follow Ohio State or any other big time program, so help me out here. Has Fickel spent his entire coaching career at OSU? If so, is it not dangerous to hire a coach who has never proven his abilities as a recruiter? (OSU is one of a handful of schools that recruits itself.)
He spent 1 year as D-Line coach at Akron, but other than that he has been a columbus boy born and bred. He has been known as a good recruiter, especially on the defensive side of the ball where his specialty is.
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This idea is simply ridiculous, I'm just going to leave it at that. Zero chance he comes to YSU, and many OSU fans want him gone anyway because he's a bad defensive coordinator.
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I was listening to the Ohio State game today and Paul Keels hinted that they may lose a coach to an opportunity that could have him back at Ohio State several years down the road. He said he would leave it at that. I caught the end of the conversation but he may have been talking about Luke Fickle.
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I was listening to the Ohio State game today and Paul Keels hinted that they may lose a coach to an opportunity that could have him back at Ohio State several years down the road. He said he would leave it at that. I caught the end of the conversation but he may have been talking about Luke Fickle.
I listened at one point and they hinted someone, forget the name, may be taking the Kansas job.
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I believe they were alluding to Ed Warinner to Kansas, but I may be mistaken:
http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2014/11/28/7303067/talking-warinner-with-land-grant-holy-land
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I don't follow Ohio State or any other big time program, so help me out here. Has Fickel spent his entire coaching career at OSU? If so, is it not dangerous to hire a coach who has never proven his abilities as a recruiter? (OSU is one of a handful of schools that recruits itself.)
I hear that he is one of their top recruiters. I also hear that he was not permitted to fire any of the assistant coaches when Tressel didn't coach due to NCAA penalty. As I understand it he wants to be a head coach and he was handcuffed from the start the year he served as interim coach. I also hear that the players really like him and that he has taken 2 pay cuts under Meyer. II also hear that he and Tressel are close. This is all hearsay but may actually be true.
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I have seen Luke Fickel on tv during games. But I met Urban Meyer at Cardinal Mooney a couple of years
ago. He was really nice. My cousin says that Nebraska's coach Bo Pelini was let go. Bo Pelini I think played at Cardinal Mooney. Maybe he would like to come back to this area. He sounds good.
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Pelini made over 3 million at Nebraska--will probably end up in a big-time program or the NFL.
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I have seen Luke Fickel on tv during games. But I met Urban Meyer at Cardinal Mooney a couple of years
ago. He was really nice. My cousin says that Nebraska's coach Bo Pelini was let go. Bo Pelini I think played at Cardinal Mooney. Maybe he would like to come back to this area. He sounds good.
Why do you always have second ha do information? Your cousin, friend, grandfather, uncle are your sources of information. I can get that someone would reference this maybe occasionally, but this is how you reference everything. You have no credibility to me. Your posts are worthless.
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It would be interesting to hear from an actual cheerleader, instead of a hairy dude in his underwear using the username "GOPENNY." They could offer a unique perspective of the teams and coaches. Maybe GO PENNY will GO AWAY.
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I have seen Luke Fickel on tv during games. But I met Urban Meyer at Cardinal Mooney a couple of years
ago. He was really nice. My cousin says that Nebraska's coach Bo Pelini was let go. Bo Pelini I think played at Cardinal Mooney. Maybe he would like to come back to this area. He sounds good.
My 3rd cousin who went to Beaver Local said Nick Saben is coming to YSU. His mother said that Nick's Dad is sick of him being away from home and needs to spend time with his sisters. :o
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Hahaha
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I have seen Luke Fickel on tv during games. But I met Urban Meyer at Cardinal Mooney a couple of years
ago. He was really nice. My cousin says that Nebraska's coach Bo Pelini was let go. Bo Pelini I think played at Cardinal Mooney. Maybe he would like to come back to this area. He sounds good.
My 3rd cousin who went to Beaver Local said Nick Saben is coming to YSU. His mother said that Nick's Dad is sick of him being away from home and needs to spend time with his sisters. :o
Well if he went to Beaver Local and heard it you can take it to the bank!--however if he heard it from a Local Beaver I wouldn't give him any credibility --they need to be seen and not heard(preferably on AGS.) ;)
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I have seen Luke Fickel on tv during games. But I met Urban Meyer at Cardinal Mooney a couple of years
ago. He was really nice. My cousin says that Nebraska's coach Bo Pelini was let go. Bo Pelini I think played at Cardinal Mooney. Maybe he would like to come back to this area. He sounds good.
My 3rd cousin who went to Beaver Local said Nick Saben is coming to YSU. His mother said that Nick's Dad is sick of him being away from home and needs to spend time with his sisters. :o
Well if he went to Beaver Local and heard it you can take it to the bank!--however if he heard it from a Local Beaver I wouldn't give him any credibility --they need to be seen and not heard(preferably on AGS.) ;)
You are correct sir!!! Although, I've received some good information from some local beavers LOL!!