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should we give him a long term contract extention? he's only 40 and looks like he is building us right back into a powerhouse that we had under Tressel, almost beat UNI, beat the #1 team, beat another top 15 team, and 3 TDs points away from being 10-1, with a top 5 offense in the country after we won just 3 games last year
once the D gets experiance like last years offense did we very well could have anywere from a 9-2 to 11-0 regular season heading into the playoffs and a top 5-10 ranking
he was born and raised in Youngstown, he knows the talent NEO brings, and who knows with him from being around the area this could be his dream job like like Ohio St was Tressels dream job
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Maybe after year 3. If he makes the playoffs this year and we have a run this year then extend him before a D1 program takes him from us. Good topic.
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i think at best we can hope to have coach wolf around for three...four more years...as much as i would love to
see him here for the long haul....he will get a big d1 offer down the road...
i dont see him going to any of the mid/major confefences....if a mac school thinks they are gling to take him away from
youngstown...dont see that happening...
wolf has been one of the best recruiters on the d1 level for quite some time now...we are seeing that first hand
here at ysu...now he is starting to prove he can also be a very productive head coach...this is only his second year
as head coach..anyone that knows football...had to feel for him last year....never in my life have i seen a team with so
many bad breaks in a season...
we are a fumble recovery return....fumble on the one yard line this year at ind st...to being a lock right now for the
playoffs....regardless...we win sat...ysu is in....and primed to make a run...
who would have thought...!!....
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I agree with Train that Wolf is going to use this job as a stepping stone into a 1A school of BCS caliber. After a strong showing of consecutive playoff runs, he will have improved on an already impressive resume. It seems to be the nature of the beast called the coaching carousel, and its all about timing.
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
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Patience young padawan.
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
I agree 100%....Montgomery is going to be an attractive candidate this upcoming offseason I hope we can keep him.
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
Why don't I see the something special offense?? Big numbers against the blind center and Jerry's kids and between the 20's. "BUT"!! Mich State 6 points. NDSU 27 points (a Win by the Defense). UNI 17 points 28 points vs. SDSU!! When the competition is tough I don't see where Shane M is such an Offensive Genius ???
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This athletic department has put itself in bad situations too often in the past by awarding contract extensions to coaches early in their tenure for results that are far short of what YSU's ultimate goal should be (whether it be football or basketball).
A 7-4 season that may or not earn a playoff berth shouldn't result in a long term extension. If YSU gets in and makes a run in to late December or January - different story. But YSU can't afford to be buying coaches out - the $$ just aren't there. Lets remember that both the head coach and assistant coaches saw a significant bump in $ over what YSU had historically paid. Whether that was good or bad is not at debate here - simply brought up to point out that a bad extension would be financially crippling to YSU.
I share the view of several below - we should be hoping to have coaches successful enough to turn the YSU head coaching job in to a job at a higher level - whatever level that might be. I would much rather be replacing coaches who have led YSU to post-season success than coaches who have not put enough wins on the board. I feel this way for football and both basketball jobs.
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I can see Wolf and company (coaches) going to K-State when Bill Snyder retires in a couple of years. We probably won't have him for 5 years IMOP.
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wolf would definitley be on the short list at k state....even next year if that be the case....
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Heck, I want to have a coach that the big schools will be looking at, means we are doing good. Chances are that we will never find a great coach that will be content staying here. Best we can do is replace a great coach with another (soon to be ) great coach. If schools like Montana can do it why not us.
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
Why don't I see the something special offense?? Big numbers against the blind center and Jerry's kids and between the 20's. "BUT"!! Mich State 6 points. NDSU 27 points (a Win by the Defense). UNI 17 points 28 points vs. SDSU!! When the competition is tough I don't see where Shane M is such an Offensive Genius ???
LMAO
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Florida St is a FAR cry from K-State
at FSU Stoops could get top end DBs to coach up, and FSU gave him a huge deal for a DBs coach, while K-St struggles to get many kids better then YSU which is why they recruit so many JUCO kids, they have to compete with OU, Kansas, Texas, Texas Tech, Okie St, Texas A&M, Missouri all in their area and thats just the big schools, while here in Youngstown and North East Ohio, you really only deal with Pitt, Ohio St, scUM and Mich St and for some reason Ohio St and scUM doesnt offer a ton of NE Ohio kids especially local kids, i would rather compete with 2 big schools then 7, and theres a ton of talent to go around in NE Ohio
K-St doesnt pay that well either IIRC
K-St isnt a concern IMO, even if you wanna say its his alma matter, well he's already coaching were he grew up so those 2 points even each other out
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Tressel was also going through a divorce when Miami came calling and it wasn't a good time for him, he probably also knew that his dream job a possibility on the horizon when Cooper couldn't beat Michigan.
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Florida St is a FAR cry from K-State
at FSU Stoops could get top end DBs to coach up, and FSU gave him a huge deal for a DBs coach, while K-St struggles to get many kids better then YSU which is why they recruit so many JUCO kids, they have to compete with OU, Kansas, Texas, Texas Tech, Okie St, Texas A&M, Missouri all in their area and thats just the big schools, while here in Youngstown and North East Ohio, you really only deal with Pitt, Ohio St, scUM and Mich St and for some reason Ohio St and scUM doesnt offer a ton of NE Ohio kids especially local kids, i would rather compete with 2 big schools then 7, and theres a ton of talent to go around in NE Ohio
K-St doesnt pay that well either IIRC
K-St isnt a concern IMO, even if you wanna say its his alma matter, well he's already coaching were he grew up so those 2 points even each other out
I am glad that you are a mind reader. Where did you get your crystal ball? Did you give any thought that he is coaching here because it a stepping stone, we have good access to premier hospitals such as the The Cleveland Clinic and Pittsburgh Children's for his son?
How much time do you think the guy spends here in Y-town? I would say not much over the course of the year because he is a perpetual recruiter and a competitor that doesn't like to lose. I would have to thnk that he travels a lot.
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I only ask.....when playoffs are announced this Sunday.
Will the golden crown still fit?
GO PENGUINS
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Tressel was also going through a divorce when Miami came calling and it wasn't a good time for him, he probably also knew that his dream job a possibility on the horizon when Cooper couldn't beat Michigan.
1st Tressel wasnt going through a divorce, not sure where that BS came from, but considering the poster, im not shocked its 100% wrong
2nd Tressel wasnt even Ohio Sts 1st, 2nd or 3rd option so i doubt he knew it was a lock he would get offered at Ohio St
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I only ask.....when playoffs are announced this Sunday.
Will the golden crown still fit?
GO PENGUINS
why wouldnt it? 20 points away from being 10-1 after winning 3 games last year is still a fantastic season
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Florida St is a FAR cry from K-State
at FSU Stoops could get top end DBs to coach up, and FSU gave him a huge deal for a DBs coach, while K-St struggles to get many kids better then YSU which is why they recruit so many JUCO kids, they have to compete with OU, Kansas, Texas, Texas Tech, Okie St, Texas A&M, Missouri all in their area and thats just the big schools, while here in Youngstown and North East Ohio, you really only deal with Pitt, Ohio St, scUM and Mich St and for some reason Ohio St and scUM doesnt offer a ton of NE Ohio kids especially local kids, i would rather compete with 2 big schools then 7, and theres a ton of talent to go around in NE Ohio
K-St doesnt pay that well either IIRC
K-St isnt a concern IMO, even if you wanna say its his alma matter, well he's already coaching were he grew up so those 2 points even each other out
I am glad that you are a mind reader. Where did you get your crystal ball? Did you give any thought that he is coaching here because it a stepping stone, we have good access to premier hospitals such as the The Cleveland Clinic and Pittsburgh Children's for his son?
How much time do you think the guy spends here in Y-town? I would say not much over the course of the year because he is a perpetual recruiter and a competitor that doesn't like to lose. I would have to thnk that he travels a lot.
congrats, way to bring absolutley nothing to the discussion, move along troll
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K-St doesnt pay that well either IIRC
You now hold the honor of the most uninformed post of the year.
Snyder's base salary is $1.925 million. Bonus of up to $455k
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-17/cover-college-football-coaches-salaries-rise/51242232/1 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-17/cover-college-football-coaches-salaries-rise/51242232/1)
Perhaps instead of getting on here and insulting everyone who disagrees with you and acting juvenile, you should do a little research and learn some stuff. It took me all of 15 seconds to find that article with Google. Beleive it or not us old farts have some knowledge.
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Tressel was also going through a divorce when Miami came calling and it wasn't a good time for him, he probably also knew that his dream job a possibility on the horizon when Cooper couldn't beat Michigan.
1st Tressel wasnt going through a divorce, not sure where that BS came from, but considering the poster, im not shocked its 100% wrong
2nd Tressel wasnt even Ohio Sts 1st, 2nd or 3rd option so i doubt he knew it was a lock he would get offered at Ohio St
This one is for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
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Thanks Indy for the info...
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not sure why we cant keep Wolf? Tressel turned down the Miami (fl) job when they were in their prime when Butch Davis left before he took the Ohio St job, just saying.
its not very un-realistic to think we can keep a good coach, especially a guy who was born and raised here
Tressel was the exception, I would hope we can keep Wolf, but ita unrealistic with the money that is being thrown around by the big boys...Penguinpower stole my thunder...by bringing up KSU, that is his old school and he is very close to Coach Snyder...If its not about money and its family and home then he stays...but hell we offered the Stoops brother and rumor has it family said take the job come home...he took the money and Sunny fla. Lets hope he gets the job done first and enjoy the ride...maybe we will get lightning in the bottle twice!!! Go Penguins!!!
Tressel was also going through a divorce when Miami came calling and it wasn't a good time for him, he probably also knew that his dream job a possibility on the horizon when Cooper couldn't beat Michigan.
1st Tressel wasnt going through a divorce, not sure where that BS came from, but considering the poster, im not shocked its 100% wrong
2nd Tressel wasnt even Ohio Sts 1st, 2nd or 3rd option so i doubt he knew it was a lock he would get offered at Ohio St
I can't remember the radio show I heard it on but I do recall them saying that the Miami job was his for the taking but Tressel turned it down only due to his family situation at the time--which involved his divorce.
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YSU21,
Your responses are not becoming of a college student. I am not convinced that you are attending college at YSU ,but if you are why don't you use actual facts to make an argument. If it is that you do not have that ability, then do something productive like recruit students to the game. That would actually have some value.
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http://www.columbusmonthly.com/articles/2011/01/04/features/doc4d2333fb934b1442652045.txt
I think someone owes Penguinpower an apology!
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K-St doesnt pay that well either IIRC
You now hold the honor of the most uninformed post of the year.
Snyder's base salary is $1.925 million. Bonus of up to $455k
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-17/cover-college-football-coaches-salaries-rise/51242232/1 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-17/cover-college-football-coaches-salaries-rise/51242232/1)
Perhaps instead of getting on here and insulting everyone who disagrees with you and acting juvenile, you should do a little research and learn some stuff. It took me all of 15 seconds to find that article with Google. Beleive it or not us old farts have some knowledge.
1.9 is paying well? LMAO
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
Why don't I see the something special offense?? Big numbers against the blind center and Jerry's kids and between the 20's. "BUT"!! Mich State 6 points. NDSU 27 points (a Win by the Defense). UNI 17 points 28 points vs. SDSU!! When the competition is tough I don't see where Shane M is such an Offensive Genius ???
Red:
We were in a game for 3-quarters against defending (and potentially repeating) Big-10 champions. It sure as heck wasn't because of our "defense". Our offense has shattered records, and ranks high in almost every category nationally. It is not the offense that gave up an 80+ yard drive in three plays to loss against SDSU. It was the offense that managed 2 7+ minute drives to win last week. Look at our TOP, that has nothing to do with defense. Sure, we needed time to adjust three different games this year; but we did each time. Then again, is it Shane's fault that our opposition was scoring every time they touched the ball at that point of the season?
If we take away the Michigan State game, Monty's boys have scored no less than 21-points in ANY game. You have been a Guin fan for a long time, maybe longer than I. So you should know that this is YSU, with those numbers on offense, and a real Penguin defense, we should be the #1 team in the nation.
Give the man some credit, and what ever it takes to keep him here. Sure, I hope we see a little more power in the game next year, but I am not going to take anything away from what we have accomplished. Listen to every head coach of teams we play, and you will hear the same thing ...they cannot adjust to the variety of looks on offense:
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I agree on Wolf ...no extension quite yet. My biggest concern is keeping Montgomery. Lots of HC's out there ...but this offense is something special. If anyone is getting a big offer ...it is Shane.
Why don't I see the something special offense?? Big numbers against the blind center and Jerry's kids and between the 20's. "BUT"!! Mich State 6 points. NDSU 27 points (a Win by the Defense). UNI 17 points 28 points vs. SDSU!! When the competition is tough I don't see where Shane M is such an Offensive Genius ???
Red:
We were in a game for 3-quarters against defending (and potentially repeating) Big-10 champions. It sure as heck wasn't because of our "defense".YES it was we held them under their average points per game Our offense has shattered records, and ranks high in almost every category nationally. Against really bad competition It is not the offense that gave up an 80+ yard drive in three plays to loss against SDSU.The O had the ball last with plenty of time to tie it up It was the offense that managed 2 7+ minute drives to win last week. What did the "O" do in the 4th qtr to help the "D" ?Look at our TOP, that has nothing to do with defense. Defense played well enough at UNI to win but the "O" could not do squat!Sure, we needed time to adjust three different games this year; but we did each time. Then again, is it Shane's fault that our opposition was scoring every time they touched the ball at that point of the season?Not his fault but the "O" is so great they should be able to score every time they touch the ball!!
If we take away the Michigan State game, Monty's boys have scored no less than 21-points in ANY game17 @ UNI. You have been a Guin fan for a long time, maybe longer than I. So you should know that this is YSU, with those numbers on offense, and a real Penguin defense, we should be the #1 team in the nation. "IF's" are dangerous assumptions
Give the man some credit, and what ever it takes to keep him here. defenitally an upgrade from Klasic :)Sure, I hope we see a little more power in the game next year, but I am not going to take anything away from what we have accomplished. Listen to every head coach of teams we play, and you will hear the same thing ...they cannot adjust to the variety of looks on offense: ? Maybe St. Francis, Alpo and WIU coaches
Sorry I don't see it that way. Hell you all have YSU as a offensive jogernaught!! What I'm seeing is a great O line, Awesome TB's, a up and coming super star QB and a few decent receivers. The "O" coaching staff is average at best that's why we can't sting 4 qtrs together against decent competition. They figure us out.
Out of the 10 games I'd say we had a good showing "O" wise 2 games. NDSU and MICH St. Although MICH St. gave us the 20 - 20 and tightened up in the red zone we scored 6 points. NDSU shut us down in the 2nd half. 182 of the 364 points (50%) YSU scored came in 3 games against WIU, Alpo and St. Francis 3 very bad teams. SDSU is horrible and we scored 28. That's below what they give up per game on average. UNI really shut us down with speed. Monty is a good coach don't get me wrong but I just can't paint this as he's a "God" like you and 21 are doing.
Actually I can't believe we're even talking contract extensions and losing coaches to bigger programs. YSU hasn't won sh** yet and by the coaches poll we definitely are not getting respect.
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come on ...we put up 250 yards against Michigan State, but gave up over 500.
We put up over 450 yards against NDSU, and gave up 303 + another 239-yards in returns. Yes, our D is improving, but we cannot give up those kind of yards. Those are incredible numbers again a great D. The bottom line is that one side of the ball has not been getting it done early-to-mid season, and it was not the offense.
Also, with the size our tailbacks, there should be no question that it is absolutely system that gives us success. Not saying that we do not have talented backs & a great linel. I am only saying that the top candidate to pick up a job will be Montgomery, and I want to keep him here at "any" ...and I mean "any" cost.
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come on ...we put up 250 yards against Michigan State, but gave up over 500.
We put up over 450 yards against NDSU, and gave up 303 + another 239-yards in returns. Yes, our D is improving, but we cannot give up those kind of yards. Those are incredible numbers again a great D. The bottom line is that one side of the ball has not been getting it done early-to-mid season, and it was not the offense.
Also, with the size our tailbacks, there should be no question that it is absolutely system that gives us success. Not saying that we do not have talented backs & a great linel. I am only saying that the top candidate to pick up a job will be Montgomery, and I want to keep him here at "any" ...and I mean "any" cost.
500 yards and only 28 points sounds like YSU was giving MSU the 20 - 20 LOL!!
Dan you are delusional :o
You are a "O" homer and always will be :-X
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You are a "O" homer and always will be :-X
Me. an "O" man? Come on, I am 99% D. I am into trench warfare. You must never read my posts.
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You are a "O" homer and always will be :-X
Me. an "O" man? Come on, I am 99% D. I am into trench warfare. You must never read my posts.
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