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Title: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 22, 2014, 05:37:36 PM
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."

---Albert Einstein

As a life-long Penguin fan and alumni, it pains me greatly to witness the current condition of YSU FB and MBB, and the pre-Bolden era of WBB.  I hope that the latest FB November meltdown leads the University to analyze everything regarding YSU athletics, and not just the HC of FB.  I hope that conference affiliation is looked at, especially for FB.  YSU is simply not an upper-level team in the MVFC, the travel is expensive, and the fans don't care about teams in the Great Plains region.  NDSU is an unpaid blood game...or worse...as they are a better team than many BIG teams and all MAC teams.  Maybe YSU should even consider a partial-scholarship conference.

The acceptance of mediocrity in MBB needs to stop.  It reflects poorly on the University.  Unless a surprising turn-around occurs this year, Slocum needs to leave.   

The Athletic Director must be held accountable for the immediate deterioration of YSU FB on his watch, from a championship and playoff caliber team to a solitary playoff appearance in 14 years. 

It is time for accountability and a new attitude regarding YSU athletics.  I hope President Tressel makes the necessary and bold decisions that are required to end this era of mediocrity.  As the Einstein quote suggests, the problems with YSU Athletics cannot and will not be solved by those who created them.

Go Penguins.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: penguin4ever on November 22, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
I totally agree that YSU needs to consider a new direction and leave the MVFC.  I say don't rule out the MAC. We would be bowling if we ended the season 7-5 in the MAC.  I also think moving in the right direction would be to fire Strollo and Wolford by Monday and put Jerry on notice.  Going to the MAC and hiring Pat Narduzzi would be a step forward for YSU.  One of the boldest moves YSU has made in years was hiring Tressel as President. My hope is YSU will continue to look outside the box and make Bold moves.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: ysufan0505 on November 22, 2014, 06:10:56 PM
I totally agree that YSU needs to consider a new direction and leave the MVFC.  I say don't rule out the MAC. We would be bowling if we ended the season 7-5 in the MAC.  I also think moving in the right direction would be to fire Strollo and Wolford by Monday and put Jerry on notice.  Going to the MAC and hiring Pat Narduzzi would be a step forward for YSU.  One of the boldest moves YSU has made in years was hiring Tressel as President. My hope is YSU will continue to look outside the box and make Bold moves.

Lol Narduzzi is not coming here and YSU is not going to the MAC because that costs $$$. Something YSU does not have. Just reality.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: edpuskas on November 22, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
My guess: Pat Narduzzi and Luke Fickell aren't taking pay cuts of $500,000 or $600,000 to come to Youngstown if the job comes open.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on November 22, 2014, 06:18:16 PM
Well said Penguin Nation. Unless Strollo goes athletics will not improve. He is the common denominator here. He hired two coaches who have lost all control of their respective teams. Wolf has constantly recruited players who have no discipline. Slocum has players on his own team fighting each other, which got into the newspaper last year. Our major athletic programs have unfortunately cast a shadow on the university.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: YSUGO on November 22, 2014, 06:32:07 PM
Hannon just said on radio that Strollo is doing a great job and Slocum has turned the Men's BB team around LOL!
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 22, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
Narduzzi is cost-prohibitive.....but if you cannot afford a capable HC....then you are in a conference in which you cannot compete.

I've heard that Slocum is the best we can afford.  If that is true, than we can't afford D1 MBB.

Hannon needs a CAT scan.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on November 22, 2014, 06:46:02 PM
Hannon is a joke. He should stop being a yes man and start asking the hard questions.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: guinpen on November 22, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
For years I was very critical of RS and I still feel that he was not ready to be AD when he was hired. He certainly made plenty of mistakes as he was learning on the job. But I do think that he has been doing a decent job of late. Facilities have been upgraded and several programs are very much on the rise and winning titles. Problem is that 2 of the high profile programs are the weakest.

Interested to see how he handles the FB and MBB issues. These will determine how history will look at him.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: kforbs126 on November 22, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
Hannon is a joke. He should stop being a yes man and start asking the hard questions.

That'll never happen.  He's a lifelong small town broadcaster.  He's probably worried if he says the wrong thing he'll get fired.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: peteonastick on November 22, 2014, 06:48:43 PM
Bob is hamstrung. Has to play the role.  If you talk to him. He knows what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: ysufan0505 on November 22, 2014, 06:49:41 PM
Hannon can't even get the names of our players right when announcing the game. Guy messes up more than I've ever heard. Slocum is a joke, Wolford is a joke. Get them both out of here!!!!
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Spiderlegs on November 22, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
Problem is that 2 of the high profile programs are the weakest.

Interested to see how he handles the FB and MBB issues. These will determine how history will look at him.

I agree completely. This is the year when we see how much backbone Strollo has with both teams.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: SoupCity on November 22, 2014, 06:55:30 PM
I can't even fathom a scenario that Eric Wolford is around come Monday morning.  If he is, then I agree that Strollo should go as well. 
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Wick250 on November 22, 2014, 07:15:07 PM
It would be best for all parties if Wolford were allowed to resign.  However, would he then forfeit the money from the buyout clause in his contract?  Perhaps a gentlemen's agreement could be reached whereby Wolford resigns but the university promises to use some of the buyout money to supplement his income from his new assistant coaching job, assuming that new position pays less than his salary here. 

I just hope that Tressel, the trustees, and the big money gang from the loges share our alarm about the destiny of this program.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: SoupCity on November 22, 2014, 07:22:24 PM
It would be best for all parties if Wolford were allowed to resign. 

I absolutely agree Wick.  Just was looking thru Twitter-verse and Scalzo said Wolford would like to come back.  Here's hoping he's not a hard-a$$ about it and just accepts the fact that his time here is overwith.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: YSUGO on November 22, 2014, 07:42:16 PM
If u make a change it better be spot on or D-1 football will be dead here. 
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: penguinpotter on November 22, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
"He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery." - Harold Wilson

Tough game to watch. Change is needed immediately.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: YSUGO on November 22, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
You missed my point about making a change.  Look at the Browns and Steelers ...continuity and stability are important.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Penguin Nation on November 22, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
"He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery." - Harold Wilson

Tough game to watch. Change is needed immediately.



^^^^Awesome!!  PenguinPotter is right on!

A few more faves:


“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.” – Charles Darwin

“When you’re finished changing, you’re finished.” – Benjamin Franklin

“If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading.” – Lao Tzu
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: Spiderlegs on November 22, 2014, 08:13:42 PM
If u make a change it better be spot on or D-1 football will be dead here.

It's close to dead already. W. isn't the root of all evil and has handled some aspects of the program well, but sometimes he has to win that big game. The fans are now voting with their feet. I don't know how he can come back from this.
 
I looked at the enthusiasm of the crowd in the Fargodome today, and then I flipped to Iowa-Wisconsin. I'm wondering how come we can't have this.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: penguinpower on November 23, 2014, 06:08:53 AM
My guess: Pat Narduzzi and Luke Fickell aren't taking pay cuts of $500,000 or $600,000 to come to Youngstown if the job comes open.

Luke Fickle is a dumb ass anyway.  If you want to see more bad defense then hire him.
Title: Re: Accountability and YSU Athletics
Post by: YsuPride on November 23, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
Our football and men's basketball are a joke now.  The valley is not interested in the losing ways and coaches with no personality.  Did you ever see a post game talk from Wolford or Slocum it makes you want to jump off a bridge?     If nothing is done to change football fortunes this week then kiss any fan support we have left goodbye including myself.   I hope Tressel shakes up the athletic dept starting with Firing of Wolford then Fire Strollo as well.   Things need to change NOW and the University needs to listen to the fans for once.