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The Youngstown State football team plays its final road game of the season at Southern Illinois on Saturday afternoon. Kickoff for the contest at Saluki Stadium is set for 2 p.m. Eastern/1 p.m. Central time. The game is available on WBCB TV, Watch ESPN, WKBN 570 AM and iHeartRadio.
YSU (4-5 overall, 2-4 in the MVFC) picked up an impressive 66-24 win at Indiana State last Saturday. Quarterback Ricky Davis, who was named the Missouri Valley Football Conference's Offensive Player of the Week, had four passing scores and a pair of rushing touchdowns in the victory.
The Penguins jumped out to a 28-0 first quarter lead against the Sycamores. Davis opened the scoring with a 57-yard quarterback keeper on YSU's second offensive snap before adding a one-yard run. The Penguins then scored on a two-yard fumble return by Alvin Bailey and a 39-yard strike from Davis to Jermiah Braswell.
The Sycamores scored 24 points between the final play of the first quarter and halftime while the Guins had 10 on a Zak Kennedy field goal and Tevin McCaster TD run. In the second half, YSU outscored Indiana State 28-0. In the third quarter, Davis had a pair of long touchdown passes to Samuel St. Surin (61 and 64 yards) while Joe Alessi added a pair of scoring runs in the fourth quarter. The 66-point outburst set a school record for most points scored in a conference game and were the third-most in school history.
Davis passed for a career-high 349 yards and rushed for a career-best 98. He completed just 10-of-12 passes in the first three quarters of play.
Southern Illinois (4-5, 2-4) suffered a 36-28 loss to Missouri State last Saturday at Saluki Stadium. The Bears jumped out to a 24-7 lead before the Salukis rallied to take a 28-27 lead early in the fourth quarter on a 47-yard touchdown pass from Tanner Hearn to D.J. Davis. But the Bears scored the final nine points of the contest to earn the victory. Hearn and Matt DeSomer combined to complete 22-of-34 passes for 257 yards and SIU had 496 yards of total offense in the contest.
The Penguins own a 15-12-1 all-time series edge, including a 21-14 win last November at Stambaugh Stadium. The Salukis rallied for a 38-31 overtime win in Carbondale in 2015.
Quick Notes
YSU set a school record for points in a conference game with 66 against Indiana State. It was the third-highest point total in a game in school history.
The Penguins had 638 yards of total offense, the sixth-highest effort in school history.
QB Ricky Davis had a career-high 349 yards passing and 98 yards rushing in just over three quarters of action.
YSU played three quarterbacks in the game - Davis, Hunter Wells and Chris Durkin. It was Durkin's first career appearance at QB and Wells' first since the contest against South Dakota State.
The Penguins intercepted three passes against the Sycamores. It was the most YSU interceptions in a game since Sept. 26, 2009 - at Indiana State.
YSU has outscored opponents 134-50 in the second half and 73-20 in the fourth quarter.
TB Tevin McCaster has scored a touchdown in seven games this season.
WR Alvin Bailey has caught a pass in all 24 games of his Penguins career. He has 30 catches for 397 yards this year.
OT Justin Spencer has started 48 straight games on the offensive line. Spencer, Gavin Wiggins and Vitas Hrynkiewicz have started the past 25 games together on the line.
The Penguins have had advantages of more than five minutes in time of possession in four of the last six contests.
WR Damoun Patterson had his third 100-yard receiving effort of his career with 143 yards on five catches vs. Indiana State.
WR Samuel St. Surin had two touchdown receptions in the third quarter - 61 and 64 yards. They were the first receiving touchdowns of his career.
Last Time Out: YSU 66, ISU 24
YSU picked up an impressive 66-24 win at Indiana State last Saturday.
The Penguins jumped out to a 28-0 first quarter lead against the Sycamores. Davis opened the scoring with a 57-yard scoring run on YSU's second offensive snap before adding a one-yard run. The Penguins then scored on a two-yard fumble return by Alvin Bailey and a 39-yard strike from Davis to Jermiah Braswell.
The Sycamores scored 24 points between the final play of the first quarter and halftime while the Guins had 10 on a Zak Kennedy field goal and Tevin McCaster TD run. In the second half, YSU outscored Indiana State 28-0. In the third quarter, Davis had a pair of long touchdown passes to Samuel St. Surin (61 and 64 yards) while Joe Alessi added a pair of scoring runs in the fourth quarter.
Davis passed for a career-high 349 yards and rushed for a career-best 98. He completed just 10-of-12 passes in just three quarters.
Last Meeting: YSU 21, SIU 14
The Penguins took an early lead then had to score the winning touchdown and play solid defense to beat Southern Illinois 21-14 last year at Stambaugh Stadium.
YSU jumped out to a 14-0 lead only to see the Salukis tie the contest in the fourth quarter. But a resilient YSU team found another way to win at home when QB Hunter Wells threw a 10-yard touchdown pass to Darien Townsend with 4:59 remaining. From there the defense had to stop two late drives by SIU to seal the win.
Tevin McCaster gave the Penguins a 7-0 lead late in the first quarter when he scored on a one-yard run. On its next offensive possession, YSU extended the lead to 14-0 with 11:56 left in the second quarter on a 10-yard pass from Wells to Alvin Bailey.
SIU tied the game with touchdowns in the third and fourth quarter before Wells found Townsend with 4:59 left. SIU had a first-and-goal at the YSU 10-yard line, but did not score, and a final play Hail Mary pass completion ended the game at the Penguins' five.
Game to Remember For Davis
Senior Ricky Davis had one of the best performances by a starting quarterback in school history at Indiana State.
Davis accounted for six touchdowns and had career highs in passing yards and rushing yards in the Penguins' 66-24 win at Indiana State.
He completed 10-of-12 passes for 349 yards and four scores. His yardage total was the fourth-most in school history and the most by a YSU QB since 1983 (Jamie DeVore vs. Eastern Kentucky). Davis averaged an impressive 34.9 yards per completion. He is the first YSU quarterback with four touchdown passes in a game since Hunter Wells against Butler in 2014.
Davis had completions of 6, 10, 18, 19, 23, 39, 52, 53, 61 and 64 yards in the game. He also completed 10 of his final 11 attempts. YSU did not attempt a pass in the fourth quarter.
He also added 98 yards rushing and two scores on 14 attempts. He had scoring runs of one and 57 yards in the first quarter. His 57-yard run came on YSU's second offensive snap of the contest. His previous rushing high was 97 yards at Illinois State in 2016. His previous best passing performance was a 281-yard effort against South Dakota, also in 2016.
Secondary Growing Together
YSU's secondary has been a strength of the team this season.
Against Indiana State, the Penguins intercepted a season-high three passes.
Opposing QBs have completed just 51.7 percent of their passing attempts for a total of 1,421 yards - 157.9 yards per game average.
Billy Nicoe Hurst, Bryce Gibson and Jalyn Powell have started all nine games while Kyle Hegedus has started the last eight contests.
Hegedus is tied for the team lead with 66 total tackles while Powell ranks fourth with 63. Powell leads the team with 41 solo stops while Hegedus is second with 39.
Through nine games, the Guins have allowed just eight passing touchdowns. Last year they allowed 26 in 16 games. As a unit, YSU has 38 pass breakups and five interceptions.
Spencer Shows Durability
Senior OT Justin Spencer, a preseason third-team All-America pick, has been a mainstay on the offensive line for the Guins since 2014.
A preseason All-MVFC first-team selection, Spencer has started all 48 games in his YSU career. After playing right tackle his first two years with the program, Spencer moved to left tackle in 2016 where he started all 16 games.
He was a second-team All-MVFC pick in 2016 and an honorable-mention selection in 2015.
Dellovade Playing Tough
YSU junior LB Armand Dellovade has led the Penguins in tackles in each of the past three games. Dellovade had a career-best 15 tackles in the 19-14 loss at UNI. Against the Panthers he had four solo stops and 11 assists.
Last time out he had eight tackles, three of which were solos. He had 11 total tackles, including an impressive 10 solo stops vs. Illinois State.
In 36 career games played, Dellovade has 225 career tackles, 136 of which are solo stops.
Not In A Giving Mood
YSU has committed just five turnovers through nine games. The Penguins lead the FCS in fewest giveaways this season. Grambling ranks second with six while San Diego and Norfolk State are third with two.
YSU has thrown three interceptions - which is tied for the third fewest - and lost two fumbles - which is also third fewest.
The Guins have had five turnover-free games this season, including last Saturday at Indiana State.
Impressively, the Penguins have just one turnover on the road this year - a Hunter Wells interception on the final play of overtime at Pittsburgh.
Kennedy In Top Four
With an 11-point effort at Indiana State, junior PK Zak Kennedy now ranks fourth in school history in points by a placekicker. Against the Sycamores, Kennedy had a field goal and eight extra points.
Against ISU, Kennedy moved past John Dowling (237) and Paul McFadden (240) and now has 242 points in a YSU uniform. He has made 45 field goals in his career and 107 extra points.
This season, Kennedy has 55 points. As a sophomore he scored 96 points and as a freshman had 91.
Guins Strike Fast, Often
The Penguins scored points on six of seven drives at the outset of the game at Indiana State, including five touchdowns.
Three of the seven drives were five plays or fewer and two were just two plays. In the second half, YSU had four touchdown drives, including a one-play, 67-yard score.
Turnover Lead to Points
YSU has forced eight turnovers this season, and it has turned seven of them into points (six touchdowns and a field goal).
At Indiana State, the Penguins intercepted three passes and converted all three turnovers into touchdowns.
Against South Dakota State, YSU recovered a first-quarter fumble that led to a touchdown and intercepted a pass in the fourth quarter which enabled them to run out the clock.
YSU turned a third-quarter interception into a score vs. Central Connecticut State. Against Robert Morris, YSU turned a fumble recovery into a field goal. At Pittsburgh, the Guins took advantage of a fourth-quarter fumble with a TD.
Losing Some Close Ones
Four of YSU's five losses this season have come by a total of 18 points. Three of those defeats have come on the road by a total of 15 points. YSU dropped its opener at Pittsburgh 28-21 in overtime, lost a 31-28 contest at South Dakota on a late field goal and dropped a 19-14 decision at UNI. YSU had its 11-game home winning streak snapped by North Dakota State with a 27-24 overtime defeat.
March of the Penguins
This season the Penguins have 29 drives of at least eight-or-more plays this year.
YSU had four scoring drives vs. NDSU and all four were more than eight plays. The Penguins tied the game up with 1:23 remaining with a nine-play, 90-yard drive that took 5:01. Most recently at UNI, YSU had three eight-play drives, including a 14-play sequence that ended with a missed field goal.
At South Dakota, YSU had four drives for eight plays, and three of those ended in touchdowns. Against South Dakota State, YSU had six drives of nine plays or longer.
Against SDSU, the Guins' offense had six drives that lasted nine or more plays. YSU had drives of nine (twice), 14, 15 (twice) and 16 against the Jackrabbits. YSU had a school record 45:14 time of possession in the contest.
Working Overtime
Twice this season the Penguins have played an overtime game. YSU battled North Dakota State to OT after the contest was tied at 24 at the end of regulation. The Penguins, however, suffered a 27-24 setback to the Bison.
YSU opened the season with an overtime contest at Pittsburgh. The Penguins came up short in that contest as the Panthers scored a TD and the defense held YSU in a 28-21 contest.
YSU is now 8-7 all-time in overtime games and has played six since November 2014 after last playing an overtime game in September 2004. At home, the Penguins are 5-3 with their last win coming against Wofford in 2016.
The Wright Stuff
Senior LB Lee Wright, a 2015 second-team All-MVFC honoree, has 172 career tackles in 25 games played. Wright has been a starter for the Penguins on 23 occasions during his career.
This year he has 65 total tackles, 32 solos and 33 assists. He has five-or-more tackles in seven contests, highlighted by 10 at Pittsburgh and 10 at UNI.
He ranks third on the squad with his 65 total tackles.
Last season, he started three of the final four playoff games for the Penguins and was credited with 29 tackles (21 solos) in the postseason.
In 2015, Wright started all 11 games and led the Penguins with 78 total tackles, including 48 solo stops. He also had six sacks and 9.5 TFLs.
McCaster Making Moves
Junior TB Tevin McCaster has scored a touchdown in seven of YSU's nine games.
At Indiana State, McCaster had 22 carries for 71 yards and a touchdown.
McCaster, who had four scores at South Dakota on Oct. 7, scored on a one-yard run with 1:23 left in regulation to help the Penguins force overtime vs. NDSU.
At South Dakota, McCaster scored a career-high four touchdowns. He rushed for 90 yards on 22 carries against the Coyotes. Against South Dakota State, McCaster had a career-high 35 rushes for a career-best 183 yards.
This season, McCaster has 727 yards on 168 carries and 10 touchdowns.
Chapman Providing Pressure
Senior DE Fazson Chapman has performed well in his first year as a starter for the Penguins.
Through nine games, Chapman has 33 tackles, which includes 6.5 TFLs and four sacks. In the past four games, he has performed well with 21 total tackles.
At UNI, Chapman had five total tackles, which included a pair of TFLs. Against North Dakota State, he had five tackles, including four solo stops. At South Dakota, Chapman had five tackles, including a sack and a forced fumble.
In his career prior to this season, he had one assisted tackle and two quarterback hurries. Last season, he was a backup to third-round NFL Draft pick Derek Rivers.
True Freshmen See Action
Last year YSU played two true freshmen; one was a kickoff specialist and the other was a special teams/reserve linebacker. After nine games in 2017, YSU has played four.
TB Christian Turner has 741 all-purpose yards. CB Bryce Gibson has started each game at cornerback. Jake Coates is YSU's punt returner and a kick returner and LB Terray Bryant has played on special teams.
Patterson Plays Big Role
Senior WR Damoun Patterson has stepped up in the past four games with 14 catches for 314 yards and two touchdowns.
Last Saturday at Indiana State, he had five catches for 143 yards. He caught five passes for 100 yards and a touchdown against UNI.
In the first five games of the season he had nine catches for 126 yards and no touchdowns.
Schuler Has Been Solid
Sophomore punter Mark Schuler has had strong efforts the past two games. Against Illinois State, Schuler tied his career high for punts with eight and averaged 40.5 yards per attempt against the Redbirds.
At Indiana State, he had three punts for an average of 44 yards per punt and placed two inside the opposition's 20-yard line.
This season he has played in seven games did not punt against Robert Morris and Central Connecticut and has 34 punts for an average of 42.3 yards per boot.
He has placed 11 kicks inside the opponents' 20-yard line and has five kicks of more than 50 yards on the campaign. Last season he averaged 42.5 yards per punt.
Mays Performs Admirably
Sophomore QB Nathan Mays continued his strong play with starter Hunter Wells out of the lineup. Mays, who has started five games and come on during the first series in two others, has played well for the Penguins.
Against North Dakota State, he rushed 21 times for 81 yards, including a long run of 36 yards on YSU's final drive of the game. He completed 11-of-15 pass attempts for a career-best 188 yards in the game and had two touchdowns.
This year Mays has rushed for 317 yards on 77 carries and completed 75-of-113 passes for 905 yards.
Rugged Ranked Stretch
The Penguins endured a daunting stretch facing then fourth-ranked South Dakota State, then-sixth-ranked South Dakota and second-ranked North Dakota State. YSU also played then 16th-ranked Illinois State.
YSU came within six points of sweeping the top five teams (USD and NDSU), but came up just short on two occasions.
The Guins opened MVFC play with an impressive 19-7 win over South Dakota State. YSU then dropped a 31-28 decision at South Dakota as the Coyotes kicked a field goal with seven seconds left. Against NDSU, YSU lost in overtime after missing a field goal while the Bison converted a 36-yarder for the win.
McCaster Carries the Load
Junior TB Tevin McCaster has rushed for more than 62 yards in seven games this year. McCaster also has at least 19 carries in six contests.
This year, he has rushed for 727 yards on 168 carries and has 10 touchdowns. McCaster has two 100-yard efforts so far this year - 183 vs. South Dakota State and 101 vs. Central Connecticut. Against the Jackrabbits he had a career-high 35 carries.
He has touchdowns in seven games this season. In his career, YSU is 12-4 when he scores a touchdown, including an 8-1 record a year ago.
Last season, McCaster was second on the team in touchdowns with 11 while rushing for 652 yards on 129 carries. His best performance was at EWU, where he had 154 yards on 29 carries and scored three touchdowns.
He was the only running back to play in all 16 games in 2016.
20 Seniors Breakdown
The roster features 20 seniors who have come to YSU through a variety of ways. Eight of the 20 have spent their entire college careers at YSU.
Five players are fifth-year seniors - Ricky Davis, Cole Newsome, Anthony Parente, Kevin Rader and Justin Spencer. Davis has moved to wide receiver after serving as a quarterback his first four years. Rader was a originally a defensive end for two seasons before moving to tight end.
DE Fazson Chapman came to YSU in 2013, then spent the 2014 season at Rochester Community College, before returning in 2015.
Three seniors on the roster joined the program in 2014 and never redshirted - TE Shane Kuhn, DB DJ Thomas and QB Hunter Wells. LB Lee Wright transferred to YSU from Appalachian State while OT Cameron Fraser joined the team from Louisville in 2014.
Those who have been with the program for three seasons include Big Ten transfers Jalyn Powell (Michigan State) and Soloman Warfield (Iowa) and juco transfer Lasander Washington.
Five junior college transfers and an FBS transfer are in their second seasons at YSU. Alvin Bailey joined the program in the spring of 2016 from Florida. Junior college transfers who came to YSU last summer are Stefan Derrick, Donald Mesier, Trent Hosick, Billy Nicoe Hurst and Damoun Patterson. Hosick came to YSU as a quarterback.
Numbers of Note
Turnover Margin: Since 1996, the Penguins are 134-35 when they win or tie in the turnover margin. When committing more turnovers, YSU is just 25-66.
Since 1990 YSU is:
160-20-2 when holding opponents to fewer than 21 points in a game.
136-16 when rushing for 200-plus yards.
157-26 when scoring 28-or-more points.
85-9-1 when holding opponents to fewer than 100 yards rushing in a game.
187-15 when leading entering the fourth.
86-3-2 when holding opponents to 10 points-or-less in a game.
Up Next:
The Penguins close out the season next Saturday against Missouri State. Kickoff for the Senior Day contest against the Bears is set for noon at Stambaugh Stadium.
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Reed back on defense.
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Hold onto the ball.
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Crap
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Linebacker play is atrocious again
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Troubling that this team has 20 seniors.
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This team stinks.
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Linebacker play is atrocious again
Still better than the offensive line :o
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Troubling that this team has 20 seniors.
20 more Wolford players gone 8)
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This team stinks.
Offense stinks.
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Man I wish YSU's TB's was bigger and stronger they get tackled way too easy :(
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Fire Montgomery. His play sheet must have about 8-10 plays on it. Embarrassing.
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Are we trying to loose????
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Are we trying to loose????
With this offense it's a crap shoot ::)
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Defense about just as bad
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Really ::)
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This is unreal
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It was almost good
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Get Kennedy off this roster. Never wanna see this kid try another FG. Terrible.
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Bo needs to clean house
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Again Defense is the best thing at YSU! 8) :) :D
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Defense nails out the offense. Again. Reed the difference maker! Stud.
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Bo needs to clean house
Yes sir this I can agree with!!
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Clean house? Just need new OC. Team will be better next year. This tv coverage is run by grade schoolers
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Clean house? Just need new OC. Team will be better next year. This tv coverage is run by grade schoolers
May need to fire himself "IF" he can't find/recruit/transfer/JUCO a QB and some running backs with the leg strength greater than 3rd grade girls. This has killed YSU in the MVFC year in and year out.
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Not pretty at all, but a win. Camera work was as bad as I have ever seen.
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Not pretty at all, but a win. Camera work was as bad as I have every seen.
The commentators and the camera work combinations had to the worst that I had ever seem in college football. It was not that they were fooled by the QB. They could never catch up with the receivers. The camera still followed the QB after the ball was long gone. What a joke.
SIU used more trick plays then a magic show.
It was an ugly win. We tried everything to give this game away. I saw on the news that YSU only had 5 turnovers prior to this game. Did we give up 5 today?
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Need to find an FBS transfer QB or this team is in more trouble next year.
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Clean house? Just need new OC. Team will be better next year. This tv coverage is run by grade schoolers
May need to fire himself "IF" he can't find/recruit/transfer/JUCO a QB and some running backs with the leg strength greater than 3rd grade girls. This has killed YSU in the MVFC year in and year out.
EXCUSE ME? You do understand that this is the first year in many that we have NOT had the top back in the conference, if not the nation? Do you even watch the team? Also, as long as coach Carl is in front of coach Shane at OBES, I have no issues. I mean just say that you do not like Montgomery because when you try to justify it, you sound foolish. We still put up 28-points today despite 4 turn-overs and a missed field goal.
Again FBS transfer is the biggest mistake we can make. We have no problems with what we have. If we find someone with at least 2-years it might be worth something, but our frosh should be ready in a year and Mays is more than capable. All the problems that you see with Oline and the entire defense & you think a QB is our top need? I guess I must have purchased tickets for a different team than you. Today was the best running performance that #37 ever had (looked like a tailback), but that is still our #1 recruiting need for 2018. #20 is an excellent frosh and I have high hopes for him as our versatile back, but we need a feature back.
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Where is the running back from Farrell, Chapman 6-2 225. Is he redshirted? We sure could use a big back.
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Where is the running back from Farrell, Chapman 6-2 225. Is he redshirted? We sure could use a big back.
Redshirted. Recovering from a knee injury sustained last year.
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If Mays is the best we have going into next year we are looking at another 6-5 season with no playoffs. He is a tough Guy and would be good at Slippery Rock next year after Tanner Garry finally uses up his eligibility. Mays is just not a D1 QB or at least a MVFC D1 QB. Has had all the chances to show his stuff but lacks the arm & decision making to be a starter at our level.
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Clean house? Just need new OC. Team will be better next year. This tv coverage is run by grade schoolers
I never saw a TV crew, even in high school so slow following the ball on a pass. EVERY pass was down, or out of bounds before we ever got to see the play. NEVER say the ball get to a receiver. Terrible crew.
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Clean house? Just need new OC. Team will be better next year. This tv coverage is run by grade schoolers
May need to fire himself "IF" he can't find/recruit/transfer/JUCO a QB and some running backs with the leg strength greater than 3rd grade girls. This has killed YSU in the MVFC year in and year out.
EXCUSE ME? You do understand that this is the first year in many that we have NOT had the top back in the conference, if not the nation? Do you even watch the team? Also, as long as coach Carl is in front of coach Shane at OBES, I have no issues. I mean just say that you do not like Montgomery because when you try to justify it, you sound foolish. We still put up 28-points today despite 4 turn-overs and a missed field goal.
Again FBS transfer is the biggest mistake we can make. We have no problems with what we have. If we find someone with at least 2-years it might be worth something, but our frosh should be ready in a year and Mays is more than capable. All the problems that you see with Oline and the entire defense & you think a QB is our top need? I guess I must have purchased tickets for a different team than you. Today was the best running performance that #37 ever had (looked like a tailback), but that is still our #1 recruiting need for 2018. #20 is an excellent frosh and I have high hopes for him as our versatile back, but we need a feature back.
:o Wow you are more delusional than ever. #37 and company have great running days against lesser competition. How did they do @ UNI, SDU, NDSU and IL. ST? Hell If I remember right Bobby Morris did a good job against the YSU vaunted offense. Don't get me wrong #37, 20 and 30 are great kids and good runners but not what the doctor ordered for the MVFC.
SIU sucks! Sorry they are a bad team maybe a step above Indy State. Offense only scored 21. Defense 7 8)
QB situation is bleak!! Transfer need NOW!!!!!
Monty?! I leave that one alone.
DEFENSE GOOD!!
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"DEFENSE GOOD!!"
Well if people think the way that you do then we are going to have another 6-5 year, no matter what QB we have.
If you read my posts I do not like #37, I said it was our #1 need for 2018. Here are your issues, using conference numbers:
-#1 in sacks allowed at 36 (we are 16 above anyone else), just disgraceful.
- Rushing defense (#2 from the bottom). Yet despite our Oline issues we are #2 in rushing.
- We give up as many turnovers as we get & have lost the ball 6 times in the red-zone (all #s). Our Oline is not doing their job and also we are not strong enough on defense.
- We are dead last in red-zone defense & are the only team in the conference to not have gathered a single red-zone turnover. Again we lack the skills. Having someone in position will do quite a bit, but that just means that opposing in-completions are luck & smart play by the opposing QB.
These are your issues. We cannot protect our QB & all you want to do is complain about them. How many time do you read "get rid of the ball faster" and "his first instinct is to run" on this board. I mean our QB's are getting sacked in a few seconds of the snap. There is no getting rid of the ball ...it is "take the snap and hold on to the ball and/or run". People need to stop acting as though he cannot read the field, when our QB's have zero time to do so.
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1AA, you put the problem with the offense on the OL, most posters are all on the QB. Frankly, it is a "team effort". The OL has played a number of games between not very well and terrible, AND the QB's hold the ball too long. Saturday the left side of the OL did great, but the right did nothing again. How much of that was DL weakness? (a lot, I'm thinking)
You are right about the problem at RB. McCaster isn't bad, but he's too small. I hope Chapman provides some big time help next year. After a very impressive start, Turner has been pretty much a non-factor for 5-6 weeks.
We should have a ton of redshirt freshman that can provide some help next year. I also watched some updated video on Jayden Cunningham and he may be the answer at QB next year? We need to keep in mind, we lost to Pitt and NDSU in overtime and USD and UNI on the last play of the game. IMO this is NOT a "blow up the whole mess" situation that a lot of guys are talking about on your blog. With the DL returnees and Cash and Gibson having a season under their belts, I don't see this as a disaster. Frankly I feel better about next year at this point than I have since Hunter got hurt the 1st time.
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1AA, you put the problem with the offense on the OL, most posters are all on the QB. Frankly, it is a "team effort". The OL has played a number of games between not very well and terrible, AND the QB's hold the ball too long. Saturday the left side of the OL did great, but the right did nothing again. How much of that was DL weakness? (a lot, I'm thinking)
You are right about the problem at RB. McCaster isn't bad, but he's too small. I hope Chapman provides some big time help next year. After a very impressive start, Turner has been pretty much a non-factor for 5-6 weeks.
We should have a ton of redshirt freshman that can provide some help next year. I also watched some updated video on Jayden Cunningham and he may be the answer at QB next year? We need to keep in mind, we lost to Pitt and NDSU in overtime and USD and UNI on the last play of the game. IMO this is NOT a "blow up the whole mess" situation that a lot of guys are talking about on your blog. With the DL returnees and Cash and Gibson having a season under their belts, I don't see this as a disaster. Frankly I feel better about next year at this point than I have since Hunter got hurt the 1st time.
A voice of reason ^^ Thanks Go!
The stats that stands out at me is:
YSU is 5th in scoring Offense only 2 points ahead of SIU for 6th.
YSU is 3rd in scoring Defense only -7 behind ILL state for 2nd.
No surprise that NDSU is 1st in both categories.
Bottom line: Both sides of the ball is not stellar, but I believe the Defense was adequate and not too far removed from last years "D". Losing #6 hurt the most! On the "D" side a health #4 really could have made a difference to boost the defense to help win the close loses.
#99 has killed us! Nice kid but :-\
As long as we don't lose too much after the end of the season with all the negative pub from the media. YSU will be a force next year. Someone commented on losing 20 Sr's but I can't see too many that made an impact that isn't replicable next year. #6 has been missed more the last 2 years than he's been around so we won't miss what we didn't have :(
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
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thanks ysubigred
QB, RBs and OTs are the big question marks for next year, not doubt. I agree 100% on 99, For me, the biggest disappointment this season has been Kennedy. I thought we were set for years after last season and this year has been a bust for sure. We do have a really good recruit from Cleveland that should take over.
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We have a lot of young guys who are talented who redshirted this year.
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We have a lot of young guys who are talented who redshirted this year.
Guys that I have seen numerous times at practice that should make a impact next year are. #1,3,54,12,53,43,63
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
New England Patriots for one. Lots of teams that "spread it around" don't have FBs anymore. They just use a TE as the blocking back. In itself, that isn't very telling. However, we have an obvious lack of powder backs to 86 is the best we have. Let's hope Chapman is what we thought he was next year!
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
New England Patriots for one. Lots of teams that "spread it around" don't have FBs anymore. They just use a TE as the blocking back. In itself, that isn't very telling. However, we have an obvious lack of powder backs to 86 is the best we have. Let's hope Chapman is what we thought he was next year!
NE Patriots can do whatever they want and it works LOL!!
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
New England Patriots for one. Lots of teams that "spread it around" don't have FBs anymore. They just use a TE as the blocking back. In itself, that isn't very telling. However, we have an obvious lack of powder backs to 86 is the best we have. Let's hope Chapman is what we thought he was next year!
NE Patriots can do whatever they want and it works LOL!!
Just saying......... I don't think having the best coach and the best QB hurts too much either. I don't like Bill, but the sob can coach. I hate almost everything from Michigan, but Brady seems to be getting BETTER with age!
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New O-Coordinator needed ;)
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New O-Coordinator needed ;)
I'm not anti Monty, but it is very obvious Bo wants a dual threat QB and Shane wants a drop back QB. You can win with either, but you gotta chose and Bo's the boss.
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
I felt the same way Red, but not after watching Ruiz and Webb for 2-years. Monty uses the TE (or larger back to block) and spring open the RB for a pass ...which is why he recruited #20. You can see the obvious benefit here ... dual threat formation. 3+ years ago, coach Shane used the TE as an XXback. It worked rather well at times, but nothing like having a real RB pair back there ...and besides, we are not going to get a 6'-5"+ QB recruit that has the talent needed to get over MVFC Dlines ...those guys could all go P5, or at least MAC. This year our line depth and lack of a true TB hurt us. Go, the running QB vs drop-back QB issue was settled last year (I understand it was heated for a short time), but after we had 3 QBs go down, I think we will stay with more of a drop-back style, like #12 and #7. It does require a special breed of QB recruit, which is why I only trust coach M to recruit that position.
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Only positions I see being worse next year are WR and TE. Losing Patterson, Bailey and Derrick will be tough to replace along with Rader and Kuhn.
I'm 50-50 on the TE position. This is a huge sore spot with me and I blame the "O" coordinator here. We have 5 or 6 250 plus TE's and could use these guys to get open over the middle for 4-12 yards and save about 75% of the sacks lost/getting our QB's killed. Hell the only time 86 sees the ball is on a 3rd and short handoff. Goes back to needing a TB big and strong enough to get the short yards. How many team do you know that brings in a TE for a handoff :o
I felt the same way Red, but not after watching Ruiz and Webb for 2-years. Monty uses the TE (or larger back to block) and spring open the RB for a pass ...which is why he recruited #20. You can see the obvious benefit here ... dual threat formation. 3+ years ago, coach Shane used the TE as an XXback. It worked rather well at times, but nothing like having a real RB pair back there ...and besides, we are not going to get a 6'-5"+ QB recruit that has the talent needed to get over MVFC Dlines ...those guys could all go P5, or at least MAC. This year our line depth and lack of a true TB hurt us. Go, the running QB vs drop-back QB issue was settled last year (I understand it was heated for a short time), but after we had 3 QBs go down, I think we will stay with more of a drop-back style, like #12 and #7. It does require a special breed of QB recruit, which is why I only trust coach M to recruit that position.
You forgot to mention Hosick..
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I don't trust Montgomery on anything. His system works against the sisters of the poor but when his QB's are needed to win games, they can't. There are no D1 caliber QB's on this roster.
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I am not buying that things are going to be all rainbows and unicorns. We have too many holes to fill.
1. I think we need to address the place kicker. The kid has become very erratic since his Frosh year. He hurt us big time this year and I dont trust him anymore.
2. Qb- MAyes needs to be coached up next year and be talent taught that as QB you need to protect your body and Monty needs to stop calling read option after read option. Its plain stupid. The defensive and O line needs to get stronger and more athletic. I have soured on the O line coach. I think our TES were not as good as advertised. We need more hands TEs that can run. Our WR play really cant be determined because Of Mayes. He was not very good at getting them the ball in the mid to long routes. Pelini needs to sprinkle his recruiting with some speed and athleticism. He wants to recruit a lot of Bo Pelini overachievers and thats all good if you want 6-5 and 7-4 seasons.
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We have a true freshman kicker coming in from Hudson who has set all kinds of records in ohio so I expect him to challenge for the job.