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Title: Mens Basketball
Post by: jbags on May 02, 2014, 12:38:38 PM
Any word on mens recruits? Are we signing anybody? We need a big kid!
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Pita on May 02, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
Too bad IP left the site, he gave all the Basketball news before it reached the press.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: ValleyTalk on May 04, 2014, 07:25:36 PM
We have a whole thread on this here:
http://ysupenguins.com/forum/index.php/topic,8264.0.html

We have 4 commits, 3 freshmen and 1 juco for sure coming in.

Also note the following per Twitter:
"2015 6'2" Matty McConnell (Chartiers Valley HS, PA) picked up an offer from Youngstown state, to go along w/ Robert Morris. @MCM_Hoopstar [2015 Recruiting]"

"Raider Alum, Nick Malonga, will take his 1st official visit tomorrow to Iona. Has officials to N. Florida & Youngstown St in coming weeks."
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jjysuwin on May 04, 2014, 09:15:58 PM
Too bad IP left the site, he gave all the Basketball news before it reached the press.

Italian Penguin was the best poster on this site. But he got sick and tired of all the B.S. the "know nothings" on the board were allowed to constantly spew.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jbags on May 05, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
The point i was making to start this post was that we have 2 more scholarships available if I am not mistaken. I hear nothing about us filling those. Are we? We had Perry, Belin, Chonacki, and Podolsky graduator run out of eligibility and Weber and Beamon leave. Thats 6 scholarships and we signed only 4. I keep thinking we need 2 more bodies, a 3 man and a true banger. Whats up?
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Iceman on May 05, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
Too bad IP left the site, he gave all the Basketball news before it reached the press.

Italian Penguin was the best poster on this site. But he got sick and tired of all the B.S. the "know nothings" on the board were allowed to constantly spew.

He was also the biggest asshat on the site.  His biggest contribution was lobbing insults at other posters for stating their opinions.  Good Riddance
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: ELPENGUIN on May 05, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
ice cold man, I really believe that Italian Penguin knows more about basketball at YSU than you will ever learn.
I also believe that you were unable to match wits with him and were put in your place by him countless times.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Iceman on May 06, 2014, 02:13:15 AM
ice cold man, I really believe that Italian Penguin knows more about basketball at YSU than you will ever learn.
I also believe that you were unable to match wits with him and were put in your place by him countless times.

I'd say I won because he is no longer around. This board is a better place without his presence
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: popsicle on May 06, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
We have 3 scholarships open. Kyle Stewart is leaving too, I hear. Ooops! Maybe they wanted to keep that a secret as well. Sorry.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: ysufan0505 on May 06, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
We have 3 scholarships open. Kyle Stewart is leaving too, I hear. Ooops! Maybe they wanted to keep that a secret as well. Sorry.

Wow! Was hoping he could have a big impact next year. Might have been the starting 4. So that is Beamon, Weber and now Steward. Along with losing KP and Kam. It's going to be a LOOOOONNNGGGGG year coming up. But keep defending Jerry. These kids aren't leaving for no reason ;)
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jjysuwin on May 06, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
ice cold man, I really believe that Italian Penguin knows more about basketball at YSU than you will ever learn.
I also believe that you were unable to match wits with him and were put in your place by him countless times.

I'd say I won because he is no longer around. This board is a better place without his presence

That's not true at all. I know many people around my section who said they stopped reading this board after Italian Penguin left.

There are a lot of posters who post opinions on here, but not a lot who post inside information/unkown facts. I.P. posted a lot of inside info the people at YSU didn't even know.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: popsicle on May 06, 2014, 10:03:57 PM
So would the info (or inside information, as you call it) on Kyle be correct? I know it. Chalk it up. Won't be able to prove it until next year when the roster is posted! Won't be an announcement. Is there ever? You keep defending the most non-transparent athletic administration I have ever witnessed...or imagined. Eventually we all get what we deserve. That time is now. Oh, I got that info from someplace other than "under the streets of 5th avenue". So it is reliable....and correct.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jjysuwin on May 06, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
That's good inside info. Thanks for sharing. I've heard it was true as well. Not sure what impact, if any this will have next year. His playing time was minimal and he looked like a deer in headlights when he got the ball. But he did have some athletic ability.

If you're going to blame someone for the lack of information out there, blame the local media. They're lazy.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: popsicle on May 06, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
What is the media suppose to do JJ? Ever ask a deaf mute a question? This administration and coaching staff just laughs in our face! And we accept it. No more.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jjysuwin on May 06, 2014, 11:03:19 PM
Umm okay???... Lol
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jbags on May 07, 2014, 12:34:49 PM
I am not going to bash our coach, I will keep those thoughts to myself but I never could understand this....he never seems to get his freshmen enough playing time early in the season against the cupcakes we schedule. We win those games anyway and who really cares by how much. Those games are for experimenting on rotations and figuring out if our freshman can play with the lights on or not. Our freshmen sit until the last 3 minutes when its just garbage time. We can never count on them come conference play, hence when Cam had some games where he totally disappeared we couldn't play Steward because he wasnt ready. Weber went through the same thing as a freshman until he realized that he can play with the lights on. I understand that some kids leave because they are homesick but more leave us because they never get any run as freshmen. I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: IAA Fan on May 07, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
JJ:

I do not know why you carry out some sort of personal vendetta on our local media ...especially the Vindy. Do you not realize how much info they give this board. Or how many times they reference the board (although not by name, they make it obvious).

I live in Columbus and the money here, in the media, is quite obvious. However, the quality here is not very good ...certainly no better than Youngstown. Now OSU is 'money' for anyone that wants to cover them. Heck a man that I work with sold his Buckeyes internet board ..I will not mention the name, but I guarantee you that anyone here that is a Buckeye fan has been on it. Now no one out there is beating down the doors to purchase this site (which I would not sell anyways) ...nor are local papers/radio/TV cancelling network feed revenue to cover YSU sports. We have to accept what we are.

We complained for years about not getting 57KBN ...well now we have it ...only because the Buckeyes went to ESPN.  Many of us long-time fans know YSU football over the long-haul. Yet, you attack BIGD, who is a very regular poster here ...with good knowledge and input. His YSU football comment is right. This is not the "old days" where we had the prime time on CBS ...hoisting a "Sears Trophy". Those days are gone. WSU was a customer of mine for several years. I would spend weeks at a time there. You know, until Strollo made our campus what it is today, we could not "hold a candle" to WSU.  Our level of football is now lucky to see ESPN2, and YSU has not been a part of that in 6 or 7 years; so the best thing you can do is talk more positively about your team.

Start by not attacking other posters in your comments. The win over Pitt and good half against Michigan State brought more attention than any national title past or future. Until Tressel arrived in Columbus, most people down here in Columbus thought that Youngstown is still loaded with running boards and Tommy guns. People from other areas ...like BigD ...are not getting a very favorable impression of Youngstown reading your posts. Why not invite him to the Hall-of-fame the next time he is in town?

So it does not matter what others say or think on this board ...as long as it is about YSU. You can attack YSU all you want. You can love YSU all you want. However, you cannot attack other people or institutions (like media). All of the media has their own email these days, as does the University; so attack them there. I have tried to tell you privately and I am sorry to have to admonish you publicly ...but this board has always welcomed everyone that wants to be here ...friend or foe. Go after the message ...not the messenger.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Lets_Talk on May 08, 2014, 10:21:43 AM
Jbags, I agree with you 100%. To me, the OOC games are about preparing the team for the HL. Yes, you'd like to win as many games as possible, but playing quality opponents and getting Frosh and those further down the roster PT "when the lights are on" is very important.

I'm not sure why more coaches do not do things like starting Freshman in the games played against D3 teams. Winning these games by 30+ points accomplishes very little. Why not start the second five, and see how they handle starting? If the team is struggling through the first 5 minutes or so, will not take the starters long to go ahead by 10-20 points. And, if it does, that is a sign of much bigger problems down the road. Once the starters establish a lead of about 15-20 points, then play the young guys again.

I would even like to see Freshman being put in the games on the road, against teams like St. John's, UMASS, PITT etc, early in the game. Not as starters, but put them in once the game get's going, and it is time for a starter to take a break. Slocum has coached long enough that he ought to know how to do this, and still enable the team to have a chance to be competitive, and/or win. If a kid plays good, keep him in the game. If he struggles, take him out after 2-3 minutes, and then use this as a teaching moment. Even give him a chance to play again in the 2nd half. In the long run, this is going to help the team be better prepared for the HL, and kids will like it because it means more playing time.

YSU seems to run out of gas about mid-way through the HL season. Easy to understand why. Starters play an excessive amount of minutes, and that takes a toll on the players given YSU's up tempo style. Of the 2 freshman who transferred out, both were good enough to play more than they did if they had been given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: IAA Fan on May 08, 2014, 10:27:11 AM
I agree to a point. Getting young guys in against DI competition is what is most important. They need to learn the speed of the game ...which will not happen in what amounts to scoring sessions against these lower teams.

I favor padding stats. You need to work the reserves in ...which usually means more minutes when you are down and less minutes when you are up ..or tight.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2014, 12:40:28 PM
Im not in favor of playing freshmen appreciable minutes against big time programs, ie Pitt, St. Johns etc because their confidence might be shattered. But vs some of the cupcakes we schedule? To allow them to do well just because they are better athletically? To build confidence? Slocum never does it. Our freshmen are ill-equipped to help us. Poor Ronnie Beamon red-shirted and then never played. Even against cupcakes. Really? No wonder he left. This needs to be corrected and I assume it will because we are going to have to play freshmen because everyone else is leaving!
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Dmorton on May 08, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
If you're not going to play them, don't recruit them!  They have to play at some point, the sooner the better to get the experience needed to play in this league.  And, like the lost poster indicated, we've got to play them now because the cupboard is bare to compete in the Horizon.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Lets_Talk on May 09, 2014, 08:00:21 PM
I see Akron just landed a stud recruit from here in Vegas. Bishop Gorman plays an elite type of schedule, and they dominate the NIAA. Only program better than Bishop Gorman in Nevada is Findlay Prep, which is not a part of the NIAA.

Says in the article Robotham chose Akron over Milwaukee and UT-Martin. With all of the camps and showcases that take place in Las Vegas during the summer, I'd hate to think YSU does not do anything in the way of recruiting here. Not saying YSU does not recruit this part of the country, just not sure if they do and am asking if anyone knows if YSU sends a coach here in the summer?

My reason for finding this relevant to the thread is because this is a kid from Las Vegas who signed with Akron and was considering UWM, a school in the HL. So, at least to me, that makes this relevant in a discussion about YSU basketball during the off-season.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/may/09/gormans-robotham-picks-akron/
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: letsgoguins on May 09, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
Jorden Kaufman, a 7 foot center, is transferring to YSU from Oral Roberts:

@JordenKaufman: Officially going to Youngstown State University next year! 🐧🐧@YSUMensHoops

http://www.orugoldeneagles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205534076
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: ysufan0505 on May 10, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
Jorden Kaufman, a 7 foot center, is transferring to YSU from Oral Roberts:

@JordenKaufman: Officially going to Youngstown State University next year! 🐧🐧@YSUMensHoops

http://www.orugoldeneagles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205534076

Finally some size! Him and bobby in the post, yes please.
Title: Re: Mens Basketball
Post by: Dmorton on May 10, 2014, 04:22:06 AM
I doubt if coach will play them on the floor at the same time much.  I think he has to sit out a year after transferring from another D1 school.