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I thought that I would begin this thread. Note that I used the words "Constructive" and "Compliments" in the title. Anyone can attack, and I know how angry we all are after yesterday's excuse for a football game. It certainly is difficult to find positive things to say. However, we are fans and this is our team, so let's make some quality replies.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU Hosts #1 South Dakota State
« on: November 10, 2023, 07:36:02 AM »
If you look at the top-6 team in the MVFC: YSU has either lost or not played all of them. This is why SDSU is a MUST Win for us. I know it is hard to see a team we have defeated ranked well above us (in SIU), but we are no longer an established power. We are Michigan prior to 3-years ago. We should also think about this when it comes to scheduling.  Here are the current rankings by the coaches, which is pretty much the way things will be for play-off selection:

SDSU:  1
SD:      6
UND:   12
NDSU: 14
SIU:     15
UNI:    20
YSU:    26

Teams in Bold are the teams we have faced ranked in the top-24 (the number of teams in the post-season). All 3 are losses. The lone remaining team (we have yet to face) in the top-24 is SDSU. So, now the team knows what they have to do, show up and win a game. The fans know what they have to do, show up and support your team. So let's do it!!!



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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU Hosts #1 South Dakota State
« on: November 09, 2023, 11:16:36 AM »
Must Win Game, as is the following week! This BS that they will be taking 5 or 6 team from the MVFC for the play-off is just that ...BS. They only took 2 last year & 3 the year prior. I mean we are ranked below 4 teams in our conference and we have a better record. That is because we are defeating the bottom of the conference. Any loss in the remaining can drop us as low as 7th. Get out there and cheer your Guins to Victory!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / SDSU Game Preview
« on: November 08, 2023, 08:37:31 AM »
Youngstown State vs. South Dakota State
Nov. 11, 2023 | Stambaugh Stadium
Youngstown, Ohio | Noon

Broadcast Information

TV – ESPN+ (Brad Wells, Kelly Burke, Danan Hughes)
Radio Network – 570 AM WKBN (Bob Hannon, Steve Leslie, Ron Potesta, Mike Orto)
Internet Radio – 570wbkn.iheart.com
App Audio - iHeartRadio App

Penguins
Record: 6-3, 4-2 MVFC
Last Game: at Indiana State (W, 19-7)
Head Coach: Doug Phillips (Fourth Season)
X (Formerly Twitter): @ysufootball

Jackrabbits
Record: 9-0, 6-0 MVFC
Last Game: vs. North Dakota State (W, 33-16)
Head Coach: Jimmy Rogers (First Season)
X (Formerly Twitter): @GoJacksFB

Series History
All-Time Series: SDSU leads 16-7
In Youngstown: SDSU leads 10-4
Win Streak: SDSU, 4 games
Last Meeting: SDSU 47-16 (2021)

    The No. 22 Youngstown State football team plays its final home game of the regular-season against No. 1 South Dakota State on Saturday afternoon.
Kickoff for the contest at Stambaugh Stadium is set for Noon. The game is available on ESPN+, WKBN 570 AM and iHeartRadio.
    The Penguins (6-3 overall, 4-2 in MVFC) picked up their third consecutive win beating Indiana State 19-7 last Saturday at Memorial Stadium in Terre Haute, Ind. YSU trailed 7-0 before scoring the final 19 points and holding ISU scoreless the final three quarters.
    After falling behind 7-0, QB Mitch Davidson scored on an 18-yard keeper late in the first quarter to tie the ballgame. Neither team could muster points in the second quarter and YSU took a 13-7 lead after three following Andrew Lastovka 35 and 45-yard field goals in the third period. The Penguins added a score on a 37-yard run by QB Beau Brungard for the final margin.
    The defense was solid throughout the game holding the Sycamores to just 191 yards of offense, 47 snaps, a 20:31 time of possession and 0-for-10 on third downs. YSU registered four sacks in the contest and forced two key fourth-quarter turnovers.
    South Dakota State (9-0, 6-0) has won and FCS-best 23 straight games after dominating rival North Dakota State, 33-16 on Saturday in Brookings. The Jackrabbits trailed 9-7 midway through the second quarter before erupting for 23 unanswered points taking a 30-9 lead. After NDU closed within 30-16, the Jacks kicked a field goal in the final minute to seal the win.
    SDSU has scored more than 30 points in seven games this season while holding its opponents to fewer than 16 on seven occasions.
    YSU's last win in the series came back in 2017, a 19-7 victory at Stambaugh Stadium. The Jackrabbits own a 16-7 all-time series lead, including a 47-16 win in Youngstown in November of 2021.
    On Saturday against South Dakota State, Youngstown State will honor the following seniors prior to the contest: Bryce Oliver, Quincy Lenton, Dra Rushton, Alex Howard, Greg Benton Jr., D'Marco Augustin, Chris Fitzgerald, Tyshon King, Mitch Davidson, Gage Salyers, Dylan Wudke, Andres Lehrmann, Marcus Hooker, Alijah Curtis, Mike Morris, Ryan Johnson, Jake Benio, Devin Lee and Haeden Gump.

Offense Putting Up Points
    In their eight games against FCS opponents this season the Penguins have scored at least 31 points in seven of them. In five of those contests, the Guins have registered 40 or more.
    YSU has set a school record with six consecutive 30-plus point contests and tied the school mark for 40-point games in a season with five (2016, 2001 and 1978 are the others).
    The Penguins opened the season by scoring 52 points against Valparaiso before adding 48 against Robert Morris to conclude the non-league season. In five league games, YSU has scored 44 against Missouri State, 41 vs. UNI and Illinois State and 31 each against Southern Illinois and South Dakota.
    In the eight FCS games, YSU is averaging 38.3 points per game. In their six MVFC contests, the Guins are scoring 34.5 points per game.

Passing Numbers Skyrocket
    The Penguins have unleashed their aerial attack the past four contests with 83 receptions for 1,139 yards and 11 scores. Through the first five games of the season, YSU had just four passing touchdowns.
    Against Missouri State, YSU threw for 415 yards, the third most in a game in school history.  Only a 446-yard effort vs. Eastern Kentucky in 1985 and 418 at Western Illinois in 2018 rank higher. It was third time this year the Guins had thrown for more than 300 yards in a game.
    At Indiana State, YSU passed for 254 yards as Mitch Davidson was 25-of-37.

Tough On the Run
    The Penguins are one of just 12 FCS teams allowing fewer than 100 yards rushing per game.
    Through nine games, YSU is allowing just 94.3 yards per game which ranks ninth in the FCS. Seven times this year, the Guins have allowed fewer than 111 yards in a game, highlighted by a season-low six against Southern Illinois.
    On 231 carries against, the Guins have surrendered just 849 yards this season. However, 457 of those yards have come on 12 carries. On the other 219 attempts, YSU has allowed 392 yards (1.78 per rush).

Scoring on the Ground
    Through the first nine games of the season, YSU has scored 24 rushing touchdowns. Last year in 11 games, the Guins had 20 and that was with first-team All-America running back Jaleel Mclaughlin in the backfield.
    First-year TB Tyshon King leads the squad with nine rushing scores. TB Dra Rushton has seven scores while QB Mitch Davidson has added five rushing TDs.
    In total, five Guins have scored a rushing touchdown. In 2022, only four Penguins scored on the ground.

King Penguin Impresses
    Transfer running back Tyshon King has been a strong addition to the program since coming in from Northern Michigan.
    In nine games at YSU, King has rushed for 722 yards on 130 carries and scored a team-high nine touchdowns.
    Four times he has rushed for more than 111 yards, all of which have come at Stambaugh Stadium, including a career-high 148 yards vs. Illinois State.
     On three occasions he has been named the MVFC Newcomer of the Week for his efforts.

Rushton With Career Year
    TB Dra Rushton has had the best stretch of his YSU career last month.
    In the five contests he had 77 carries for 357 yards and four touchdowns. He also had an important receiving touchdown in the win over Illinois State.
    At South Dakota, Rushton rushed for a career-high 116 yards on 16 carries. He ripped off a career-long rush of 33 yards vs. the Coyotes.
    Against Illinois State he had 109 yards on 19 carries. He had a key touchdown reception in the fourth quarter vs. the Redbirds.
    This year he has rushed for 468 yards on 110 carries. Entering this season he had 387 yards on 87 rushing attempts.

Lastovka Making Kicks

    First-year PK Andrew Lastovka has been a major contributor after taking over for three-year starter Colt McFadden this season.
    Lastovka is 11-of-12 on field-goal attempts this season. He made a season-high three field goals against Missouri State before making two of three, including a career-long 45-yarder at Indiana State. He is 35-of-36 on PAT kicks this season as well.
    Against Illinois State, he kicked a 37-yard field goal as time expired in YSU's 41-38 win.
    The walk-off winner vs. Illinois State was almost exactly one year since Colt McFadden made a 42-yard field goal as time expired to beat Western Illinois.

Strong on Special Teams
    The Penguins special teams have performed well through the first seven contests.
    YSU ranks 11th in the nation in net punting at 40.7 yards and is third in the nation with four blocked punts.
    Michael Voitus blocked a Valparaiso punt and Jaylen Castleberry returned it for a touchdown. Against RMU, Daryan Bowling was able to get his hands on a punt. At UNI, Bryce Oliver blocked a punt that was recovered by Deamontae Diggs and set the Guins up at the UNI nine. Against MSU, it was Diggs with a block that set up a field goal just before halftime.

Oliver Closing in on Flea
    WR Bryce Oliver has been a big producer for the Guins since his arrival and he could soon be the program's leader in career touchdown receptions.
    Oliver has 23 touchdown catches and trails only Jim "Flea" Ferranti by just two with three regular-season games to play. 
    Oliver has played in 29 games and has a touchdown reception in 16 contests (four in 2023, seven in 2022 and five in 2021).
    In the last 13 games he has played against MVFC foes dating back to October 2022, he has caught touchdown passes in 10 contests.
    In his YSU career, Oliver has 127 receptions for 1,751 yards and 23 touchdowns.  This season he has 42 catches for 664 yards and five scores.

Charleston Back on Field
    One of the great stories this season has been the return to the lineup of CJ Charleston.
    Charleston missed last year after suffering an Achilles tendon injury in fall camp.
    He has 423 yards on 28 receptions and three touchdowns this year. Entering the season he had 27 catches for 361 yards in his career.
    He had a career-high six catches for 119 yards against RMU in September. He has touchdown receptions against Valparaiso, Illinois State and Missouri State. His 72-yard touchdown reception vs. ISU was a career best.
    The season-opener against Valpo marked his first game since Nov. 20, 2021, which was at Southern Illinois. Since his debut in 2019, has caught 55 passes for 820 yards in 26 games played.

Howard Having Big Year
    LB Alex Howard leads the Penguins with 59 total tackles (32-27) on the year. That total crushes his 2022 season total of 34.
    He's had at least five tackles in all but one game with a high of nine against Valparaiso and Illinois State.
    He has been credited with sacks against Valparaiso, Ohio State and Southern Illinois. Last time out he had six tackles at South Dakota.
    Last year, Howard had 34 total tackles and just 3.5 TFLs playing in 10 games while making three starts.

Davidson First Over 2K in 10
    QB Mitch Davidson is the first YSU quarterback to pass for more than 2,000 yards since Kurt Hess in 2013. This year, Davidson has completed 170-of-241 passes (70.5 percent) for 2,169 yards and 15 touchdowns. He also has five rushing scores this year.
    He's tied the school record with three 300-yard passing games in one season joining Denny Klembara on the short list.
    Davidson threw for 390 yards vs. Missouri State, 332 at UNI and had 303 against Robert Morris. He has four touchdown passes in each of the last two games. In 10 of his 15 career starts, he's thrown for more than 200 yards.
     Davidson had an impressive performance during the 2022 campaign completing 119-of-201 passes for 12 touchdowns and just one interception.
    He has thrown just three interceptions in his last 337 attempts.

Career 300-Yard Passing Games
1. Trenton Lykes (1984-87) - 4
1. Denny Klembara (1968-71) - 4
3. Mitch Davidson (2018-Present) - 3
3. Brandon Summers (2008-09) - 3
3. Ron Jaworski (1969-72) - 3

O-Line Features Strength
    YSU's offensive line features four of five starters from a season ago. That group has a large amount of starting experience with Jaison Williams (36 starts), Aidan Parker (34 starts), David Metzler (27 starts) and Ryan Johnson (24 starts) leading the way. Redshirt freshman Desmeal Leigh has started nine games at left tackle.

Preseason MVFC Accolades
    WR Bryce Oliver, OL Jaison Williams and DE Dylan Wudke were all named preseason first-team All-MVFC selections. DT Chris Fitzgerald and LS Sam Merryman were named to the preseason second team while TB/TE Jake Benio, LB Greg Benton and DB Quincy Lenton were tabbed preseason honorable-mention.

Experience On the D-Line
    The Guins have a wealth of experience on the defensive line as well.
    The defensive line features veterans Dylan Wudke (33 starts), Chris Fitzgerald (30), Anthony Johnson (15), Andres Lehrmann (nine) and Devin Lee (five). Fitzgerald has started 30 straight games while Wudke has started 28.

Numbers of Note

• Turnover Margin: Since 1996, YSU is 156-48 when they win or tie the turnover margin. When committing more turnovers, YSU is just 30-87.
Since 1990 YSU is:
• 177-22-2 when holding opponents to fewer than 21 points in a game.
• 156-23 when rushing for 200-plus yards.
• 180-32 when scoring 28-or-more points.
• 96-14-1 when holding opponents to fewer than 100 yards rushing in a game.
• 209-23 when leading entering the fourth.
• 95-3-2 holding opponents to 10 points-or-less.
• YSU is 21-6 when a back rushes for more than 200 yards in a game.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Penguins Fall to Louisiana, 72-62
« on: November 07, 2023, 08:18:04 AM »
Lafayette, La. – Senior Brandon Rush scored a team-high 14 points and graduate student DJ Burns posted a double-double, but the Youngstown State men's basketball team dropped a 72-62 decision to Louisiana on Monday night at the Cajundome.

The Penguins fall to 0-1 on the year while Louisiana improves to 1-0.

Burns, who recorded his first double-double with Youngstown State, scored 13 points and grabbed 11 rebounds. Rush grabbed eight boards and senior Bryson Langdon added 11 points.

The Penguins built a 20-8 lead keyed by a 3-pointer by Burns and another 3-pointer by Rush at the 8:53 mark of the first half.

The Ragin Cajuns would score the next 11 points to cut the YSU lead down to one, 20-19, and then took a 25-24 lead at the 3:24 mark.

A basket and two free throws by Rush put Youngstown State back up three, 28-25, with 1:55 left before halftime, but Louisiana used a 10-3 run to close out the half with a 35-31 advantage at the intermission.

The Penguins began the second half strong by scoring eight of the first 10 points to take a 39-37 lead with 15:28 to go. Langdon hit a pair of shots to start the rally, and Burns made two layups to tie the game and regain the lead.

Louisiana used a 10-0 run to take an eight-point lead, 47-39, and extended its lead to 10, 51-41, at the 10:38 mark.

Two free throws and a driving layup by Ziggy Reid and a dunk by Gabe Dynes brought the Penguins back within four, 51-47, with just under nine minutes left.

After the Ragin' Cajuns extended the lead back to eight, the Penguins, who went 0-for-10 from 3-point range in the second half, would never get closer than five points.

Youngstown State visits Michigan, Friday, Nov. 10. Tipoff is set for 6:30 p.m. in Ann Arbor, Mich. The game will be broadcast on 570 WKBN and the Big Ten Network.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU Hosts #1 South Dakota State
« on: November 05, 2023, 05:08:06 PM »
Looks dry and reasonably warm (for November) so far, but you know how forecasts can change.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU vs Louisiana mens basketball
« on: November 03, 2023, 10:30:59 AM »
Has anyone seen a game-day roster? I suspect we will see more tomorrow after the football game.

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He is a real gunslinger, with a surprisingly low INT rate.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Mitch Davidson MVFC Offensive Player of the Week
« on: October 30, 2023, 01:22:05 PM »
This week's Missouri Valley Football Conference players of the week include QB Mitch Davidson of Youngstown State; LB Logan Kopp of North Dakota State; P/PK Hunter Dustman of South Dakota State; and PK C.J. Elrichs of North Dakota.
 
Offensive Player of the Week
QB Mitch Davidson, Youngstown State


6-4, 220, Senior, Salem, Ohio (Salem HS)
Davidson passed for a career-high 390 yards while tying a career best with four touchdown passes as the Penguins defeated Missouri State 44-28 on Saturday at Stambaugh Stadium. Davidson completed 26-of-33 passes and connected with three different players for scores. He had touchdown passes of 51, 20, 10 and two yards in the victory. His previous high was 332 which came earlier this year at UNI. That total ranks third in school history for single-game passing yardage. He has 11 touchdown passes in the last three games.

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The Youngstown State bowling team went 3-0 to climb from fourth place to the championship on Sunday at the Destination Orlando: Sunshine State Classic tournament at AMF Sky Lanes.

The Penguins captured their third tournament title in program history and their first since 2019. YSU took down No. 1 Vanderbilt, No. 5 Stephen F. Austin and No. 7 Jacksonville State on Sunday in the best-of-seven bracket to claim the championship.

"I'm really proud of the ladies because it was a total team effort," said YSU head coach Doug Kuberski. "They did a heck of a job staying together throughout the tournament and staying focused on the process. And in big moments, they were cool and calm. Today, we felt as one. We're going to enjoy the victory, rest up tomorrow, and get back after it on Tuesday with our focus on continuing to strengthen our process and togetherness."

Youngstown State had the second-highest Baker pinfall on Friday, and it had to grind through some low scores during the middle matches of traditional on Saturday to remain in the top four and have a chance at a title run. The Penguins averaged 207.81 to beat Vanderbilt and SFA 4-2 and sweep Jax State 4-0 in the championship match. Vanderbilt was the third seed in the bracket, SFA held the top seed, and Jacksonville State was the second seed.

Jade Cote was named the Most Valuable Player of the tournament, serving as the Penguins' anchor for most of the weekend.

YSU dropped the opening game against the Commodores and the Ladyjacks, and the Guins trailed SFA 2-1 before rallying. Youngstown State had a big 194-193 win in game four against Vandy to take a 3-1 lead in the match, and YSU had victories of 236-233 and 213-205 over Stephen F. Austin.

Youngstown State began the championship match with a statement by bowling a 254 in the opening game, and a 213-203 win followed to give the Penguins a 2-0 lead. YSU then took game three 236-175, and Guins threw the final five strikes in game four. Madison Doseck and Kirsten Moore started the string with strikes in the eighth and ninth, and Cote tripped the 8-pin on her first ball to extend it. She then punctuated the tournament title with two more strikes to give YSU a 211-182 win in game four.

Youngstown State was the runner-up at its season-opening, giving the Penguins a pair of top-two finishes to start the 2023-234 season. YSU's next tournament will be at the SFA Ladyjack Classic in two weeks.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Missouri State Week
« on: October 24, 2023, 03:45:03 PM »
I agree on playing each game, I just want to be sure our goal is to win EVERY remaining game.  At 8-3, with wins over two top-5 opponents, there is no discussion .. we are in and home for the duration.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Missouri State Week
« on: October 24, 2023, 07:45:58 AM »
I am getting sick of everyone thinking we can lose to SDSU and still make the play-off. You can tell the announcers and media think the same. We have a poor schedule strength. We have 2 good teams and two medium teams on our schedule. Good teams will be in strong consideration for the post-season. Medium teams are nothing but spoilers. We have lost to both of our medium teams this year, with none remaining. We have beat one good team, with one more on our schedule. WE CANNOT LOSE A SINGLE GAME. THIS INCLUDES SDSU. I mean just how many play-off teams do you think are coming from one conference?

South Dakota State    7-0
South Dakota           6-1
Northern Iowa    4-3
North Dakota State 5-2
Southern Illinois    5-2
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Illinois State           4-3
North Dakota          4-3
YSU                         4-3

If the play-off was now, the MVFC MAY go 5-deep, but not likely. However, everyone on the top goes. Those below do not. If they go 4-deep from the MVFC, then UNI drops down to play spoiler, which they did against YSU. I suspect UNI and SIU will each lose a minimum of one remaining game. If that happens UNI is out, but SIU is still in. That gives us a strong chance if we win out. Not go 3-1, but 4-0 beginning last Saturday. We have one game down and 3 more to go. So let's go Guins. Just concentrate on the task at hand!!!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 23, 2023, 01:32:29 PM »
I'm sorry, but Phillips has had plenty of ample time to turn the program around period. Let's all stop Using that excuse of the covid year everybody had it. Defense was pathetic and I see it not getting any better.  we need a new defensive coordinator a new scheme, or something.
we are in the middle of the 3rd season.  His handicap is that he stated with NOTHING.  It's a complete rebuild.  Listen to Mark Farley's comments about YSU.  He said that since Phillips has arrived Youngstown has returned to looking like a Missouri Valley team.  He said that it's been several years since we've had the players to match up.  He also said that YSU has this"will" about them to win games like we did in years past.

The roster is young. The guy has had 2 seasons, one of which was abbreviated. He's in the midst of his 3rd year and we are ready to fire him?  He doesn't even have his full roster playing yet. 

I find these kinds of remarks unfair and incoherent.  Name someone that would be a better replacement that we could get on our budget. 

If we doesn't win in year 5, then you can get critical.  What he and the team need is support. 

Look at the improvement in the national statistics.  You think Pelini was great?  He sucked at recruiting, which is 85% of the way you win.  He used Wolford's recruits to win and then the sharp drop off came because his recruiting sucked ass.

Games in the Missouri Valley Football Conference are not going to always go as you think.  People are ridiculous.

Unbelievable. 

Who fired a coach after 3 years when significant progress is being made.


We have inexperienced coaches and inexperienced players.  That can be fixed.  As I've stated before, donate to the program for better assistant coaches if you want to see that kind of change.  The head coach is doing a fine job.  But it's ultimately up to the kids to clean up the critical penalties.
DITTO!!


I was the same as Pride, but when I remembered Phillips had no games his first season, I decided to hold back another season before calling for some more serious action. The lack of consistency really bother's me though. It really seems like basic adjustments send us for a loop.

Now some good and bad from the ILS game. The left corner (#2 or 3 I think) seemed to make an effort to keep an eye on the ball & twice he made brilliant plays on the ball and stopped receptions in the end-zone. #1 is becoming more productive as they are keying on #10, but we cannot just switch. we need to have some plays designed for both backs to be in there. We have to stop being so obvious in our changes to run the ball. (ie: shifting the TE's and using Brungard, etc.). We need to focus more on open parts of the field. Send those TE's out over the middle and hit them with some passes. Simple post route will do. Saturday the middle of the field was open most of the first 3 quarters

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 20, 2023, 04:53:53 PM »
Guys, we need to show the committee that we can win multiple game-in-a-row. They need to show me this as well. If not, I do not wish to be embarrassed in the play-off with an appearance. BTW, at 8-3, YSU will have defeated #1 and #5. we are in (and at home) with out a doubt.

Also, let's not forget that we need to gain post-season exposure. YSU no longer has any idea what it takes to fight your way through the crowd of teams in the post-season. So maybe there is some good to an embarrassingly short run in the play-off, as opposed to none?

Conference games are the same as playoff games, if not more challenging than facing most teams in the tournament.  There's such a stark difference between the MVFC teams and everyone else that we get playoff experience every week.

Good point, but I cannot say that I completely agree. The MVFC is tough, but facing different styles of offenses and defense that you do not experience regularly is more dangerous.  Look at 2017. We had little trouble with a very strong Jacksonville State team and we all but lost to a weak Wofford club a week later. It was their tough D and solid option game that we were not used to.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Illinois State Week
« on: October 20, 2023, 10:09:48 AM »
I am actually more optimistic about the making the post season even with a 7-4 (losing one more game to South Dakota State.
I know we didn’t make it last year at 7-4.
However, if the four loses are, Ohio State (#3 FBS), South Dakota (#2 at the time), South Dakota (#1) and Nothern Iowa (#10 at the time), coupling with a 31-3 win over then #5 rank Southern Illinois, IMO, I think even the biased selection committee is going have trouble not picking YSU.
We are all but out now. Winning out, including vs SDSU, is a MUST. Without that, I would not even vote for us to be in the post-season and I bleed Red & White. A loss to SDSU would put a minimum of 4 MVFC teams above us. (That loss to UNI is going to haunt us for the remainder). 3 that beat us and the fourth we did not face. What kind of resume is that?

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