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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 08:50:42 PM »

I know many schemes have changed and many are scene as old.  However, with a noticeable size, speed and athleticism advantage why not have Hess under center and throw slants across the middle to any of the receivers?  It seems as though the plays are so slow to develop.... Dayton isnt providing any pressure and probably shouldnt.  I know many will use the excuse we dont want to show are SPECIAL PLAYS since its Dayton... Thats the popular excuse but the size of the crowd tells me they need to give the fans a reason to come to the game.......  WHERES THE EXCITEMENT?

Bryan and Wheary aren't exactly burners at the WR spot.

Depends on your definition of burner--doubt that too many men on the field can outrun Wheary.

Wheary was timed at 4.63 in the spring, i dont know anybody who would consider that burner for a WR

4.63 is not "burner" speed in my book either--some of the fastest sprinters in the world can run 40yds.in the low 4.3's with starting blocks yet many high school football players supposedly run 4.3's without starting blocks--bottom line although I take 40 times with a grain of salt I still believe that with equipment on not too many men on the field will outrun Wheary.

Theres a ton of players who will outrun wheary, he's not football fast or track fast.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 06:10:06 PM »

I know many schemes have changed and many are scene as old.  However, with a noticeable size, speed and athleticism advantage why not have Hess under center and throw slants across the middle to any of the receivers?  It seems as though the plays are so slow to develop.... Dayton isnt providing any pressure and probably shouldnt.  I know many will use the excuse we dont want to show are SPECIAL PLAYS since its Dayton... Thats the popular excuse but the size of the crowd tells me they need to give the fans a reason to come to the game.......  WHERES THE EXCITEMENT?

Bryan and Wheary aren't exactly burners at the WR spot.

Depends on your definition of burner--doubt that too many men on the field can outrun Wheary.

Wheary was timed at 4.63 in the spring, i dont know anybody who would consider that burner for a WR

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 02:09:00 PM »

The only thing that sold out last night was the student allotment of tickets. Clearly the rest of the stadium was not full. Poor communication by some it sounds like...

And all is not lost folks, Kent used a late Colin Reardon (Poland HS) TD pass to beat FCS Liberty 17-10. This is a Kent team that was loaded last year and had their best season... Perhaps ever.

I will take the 18 point win over Dayton. Need to eliminate the turnovers next week and good things will happen.

Kent also lost a ton of starters, their coaches from last year and their best player and a heisman canidate in the 1st possesion of the game, thats a pretty terrible comparison to make between the 2 games.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Morehead State

« on: August 30, 2013, 12:19:00 PM »

Thoughts? Predictions?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 12:03:46 PM »

It seems that Hess developed PTSD during that pic 6 at the NDSU beating last year, and hasn't been the same since.  I recall being amazed at his performance at Penn State in his and Wolford's first game, as well in the win at Pitt.  Last night was bad.  Overthrown passes when there was time in the pocket.  Botched snap.  Pics.  I do think it is time to groom somebody for next season and give them playing time. 

Strollo again during an interview restated that playoffs are the expectation here, despite one playoff season since he has become AD.  Really just a slogan anymore.  It occurred to me last night that YSU is no where close to a playoff caliber team, and likely wont be in the next upcoming seasons.  Last year at this time we beat Pitt, and a year later we struggle with a PFL team.  Seems highly improbable we'll have a winning record in the MVFC, and maybe not even for the season as a whole. The team has regressed rather than improve.  Strollo hired Heacock, and Wolford and is ultimately accountable.  Yes we have new facilities. Is there a campus that isn't renovating and adding new buildings?  The WATTS is due to Tressel more than Strollo.

As far as Heacock versus Wolford, Heacock was not in the playoffs at this point yet either, and got clobbered by BCS teams, where Wolf has beaten one. Wolf beat UNI, Heacock...no.  Heacock inherited a championship caliber team, and only had to maintain it.  Wolford inherited a mess, and was asked to rebuild it.  Big difference.  Strollo never should've renewed Heacock's contract, and should not renew Wolford's either, unless there is a playoff invite this year (doubtful).



 


 

the Freshman Ricky Davis seems next in line from what i've heard/read but they want to get the extra year out of him so he's hopefully going to RS all year

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 12:02:34 PM »

I know that Dayton is notorious for not updating the player's weights from their freshman year.  The o line and d line looks more like this:

O-Line : 290 - 300 - 275 - 275 - 285

D-Line : 240 - 275 - 270 - 235

Still smaller than YSU, but not as bad as the UD roster makes it seem.

I doubt it

There was no way in hell Dayton's #56 was 240. He was at least 280-285 on that OL. You come here and complain all game long, leading me to believe you weren't even there in person. I was there in person and their OL was bigger than what their website says... End of story.

Disagree with your assessment on our defense penguin power. That defense will shut down most rushing attacks on our schedule. With Peterman returning in a few weeks, the pass defense will improve.

Again... We won by 18 with 4 turnovers. I predicted a 21 point win and we came close to it. You guys expecting a 40 point stomping had no regard for our opponent. This is the offense we saw in the final 3 games of last season with a much improved defense.

Nonetheless, the results around the MVFC as a whole last night were ugly. ILSU and INSU got pounded by relatively weak FBS schools. MSU lost to Northwestern State? WIU had a big win over Hampton.

the coaches check their weight every month, ill take their word over yours all day long, your wrong, end of story.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »

I am not writing off Hess like some.

This kid has been great for 3 years and now he is done?   YSU fans are like Browns fans without the noise.  "He stinks" and "Hess sucks"  should never show up on my computer screen.

Here is  the problem as I see it...................OL and DL

Think about it    We lost everybody but Elkins from what was arguably the best OL here in a long time----the replacements either haven't reached the level of improvement they needed or they shouldn't be here in the first place.

DL---My memory fails a bit but didn't we lose everyone there too?  Again  we try to fix the DL with JUCOs every couple years.  I hate that route, while realizing that any stud DL in high school ain't coming to YSU.

In both areas it is tough to win when you are starting guys that have the talent level of back-ups.  Whether that is poor evaluation when recruiting, poor progression of improvement, or whatever   I don't know.  But those are the problem areas as I see them.

BTW  Chris Sammarone did a great job on the radio last night.

Hess is very overrated. He's a system QB. Can't read coverages very well and when stuff breaks down and he has to make a decision, he crumbles and chokes. This isn't new for me. Been saying it for 3 years. Great kid, just an average QB... But I will agree, besides Elkins and Bryant, the OL does need some work. D-Line looked fantastic. Coleman and Rivers looked fast off the edge and Octavius Brown and Krmoah are big stuffers in the middle

apparentley watching Hess play is new to you

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 01:02:55 AM »

I know that Dayton is notorious for not updating the player's weights from their freshman year.  The o line and d line looks more like this:

O-Line : 290 - 300 - 275 - 275 - 285

D-Line : 240 - 275 - 270 - 235

Still smaller than YSU, but not as bad as the UD roster makes it seem.

I doubt it

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 11:37:07 PM »

Hess was bad. He never had it tonight. Bellamy looked very good. That was the big time D1 recruit we expected to see 3 years ago. Glad he is finally healthy.

Defense was the story of the night. They were pretty darn good with great pressure on the Dayton QB,  a couple of interceptions, and a couple of sacks. Rush defense is stout and the pass defense held its own and had numerous pass breakups. When Peterman comes back, it will be better.

At the end of the day we won 28-10 despite having four turnovers. Dayton really only sustained one real long drive all night and that was when they scored the TD. They should win 6-7 games this year.

Eliminate the turnovers and get Hess' head out of his you know what before this Morehead State game.

Not the performance we wanted to see, but numerous weaknesses were exposed in game 1 that can be fixed. Lets see how this staff responds.

I dont care how the front 7 looked, no matter what happened theres absolutley nothing you can get a read on about the front 7 after tonight, Dayton has an OL smaller then some HS teams around North East Ohio.  If they couldn't dominate then we aren't winning 5 games this year.

I believe that Dayton had 10 senior starters on O. I am not sure how many years they have all played together but a lot of experience non the less.

experiance doesn't make up for lack of size/talent, not one bit.  the LT was what 250? all 4 of our starting DL are at least that size.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 11:27:17 PM »

Hess was bad. He never had it tonight. Bellamy looked very good. That was the big time D1 recruit we expected to see 3 years ago. Glad he is finally healthy.

Defense was the story of the night. They were pretty darn good with great pressure on the Dayton QB,  a couple of interceptions, and a couple of sacks. Rush defense is stout and the pass defense held its own and had numerous pass breakups. When Peterman comes back, it will be better.

At the end of the day we won 28-10 despite having four turnovers. Dayton really only sustained one real long drive all night and that was when they scored the TD. They should win 6-7 games this year.

Eliminate the turnovers and get Hess' head out of his you know what before this Morehead State game.

Not the performance we wanted to see, but numerous weaknesses were exposed in game 1 that can be fixed. Lets see how this staff responds.

I dont care how the front 7 looked, no matter what happened theres absolutley nothing you can get a read on about the front 7 after tonight, Dayton has an OL smaller then some HS teams around North East Ohio.  If they couldn't dominate then we aren't winning 5 games this year.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 11:01:31 PM »

Ugly win, Hess played pretty bad tonight but the offense did score a TD every quarter, on to morehead state

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 11:00:16 PM »

What about having zero good years??

not enough to keep his job  but like i said, you keep ignoring those years before 06, you just dig a deeper hole with every childish post.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 09:08:56 PM »

The fact is..... We went to the semi finals.  If we fired him in 05 ( we split the conference that year) we prob wouldn't have gone to the semi finals in 06. What's your point?  You probably never played football, right?

The fact is, he is one of the worst HCs we have seen in the last 50 years, his track record does speak for itself after all,  if not the worst. you should probably stop calling people out after you get owned so hard the first time, just a tip. so How many more facts are you going to leave out to fit you're worthless agenda? still ignoring the fact he only made the playoffs twice in almost a decade? thats pretty sh**ty if you ask me, and many many many others at YSU. But hey keep telling yourself whatever lies you have too i guess.

I wonder what universe having 2 good years in a decade is acceptable, i sure hope YSU never sinks to that low again

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 09:00:38 PM »

I know many schemes have changed and many are scene as old.  However, with a noticeable size, speed and athleticism advantage why not have Hess under center and throw slants across the middle to any of the receivers?  It seems as though the plays are so slow to develop.... Dayton isnt providing any pressure and probably shouldnt.  I know many will use the excuse we dont want to show are SPECIAL PLAYS since its Dayton... Thats the popular excuse but the size of the crowd tells me they need to give the fans a reason to come to the game.......  WHERES THE EXCITEMENT?

Bryan and Wheary aren't exactly burners at the WR spot.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 29, 2013, 08:59:12 PM »

You obviously aren't a real fan.  Heacock took us to the semi finals in 2006.  Winning season in 2007.  Losing seasons in 2008 & 2009. Fired.  He didn't "hang around".  The guy took us to the national semi finals in 06 and 3 years later he was gone.  That's more than we can say for wolford.

You obviously aren't a real fan. What the hell did he do from 01-05 to deserve to be the coach in 06 and 07? i find it absotluley hillarious you left out he had losing seasons in 03 and 04 including a combined 4-10 Confrence record, in 9 years he went to the playoffs twice, i call that hangining around when he should have never seen the 05 season let alone 06 or 07.  Maybe it was his outstanding 34-30 confrence record that made him so good  not a real fan, lol get the hell outta here troll, nice job leaving out facts only to fit your pathetic agenda.