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Title: The South Dakota game
Post by: Wick250 on October 27, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
All road games are dangerous.  This team threw 47 passes against Illinois State and will throw more against us.  Fortunately, they have scored 20 points only once, in the UNI meltdown two weeks ago.  For what it is worth....probably not much.... their performance against common opponents (Western Illinois, Indiana State, and Illinois State) has been unimpressive.

Looking at the "conference-only" statistics, here is how YSU stands half-way through the season.

We are first in turnover margin and second in penalties.

On offense, as you would expect, we rank well in many categories:

1st scoring offense
1st red zone offense
2nd total offense
2nd rushing offense
1st passing efficiency
1st sacks against
2nd third down conversions
1st fourth down conversions

On defense, a few ugly stats, again as we would expect:

9th total defense
10th pass defense
10th opponents third down conversions

But also some positive surprises among the defensive stats:

2nd scoring defense
3rd rushing defense
3rd sacks
1st red zone defense
1st opponents fourth down conversions

Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: OBC on October 27, 2013, 03:55:51 PM
I am excited to see your team in person this year in Vermillion.  Have a ton of respect for your program.  Obviously you are having a solid start to your year with some tough games to finish.  While the USD game may strike you as the easiest on paper, I think it may be the second toughest remaining.

I think the game will come down to how much pressure the defenses put on the QBs.  We have an inexperienced starting QB.  Your QB is seasoned and will most likely not get rattled even if our defense gets him a few times.

How is your OL this year?

Our special teams - especially punt team has been the worst in the MVFC.  I think we finally found a long snapper that can actually be depended on - only took eight games.....

Like most Valley teams we are banged up - several starters have gone down either during or before the season with season ending injuries.  Couple that with a new coaching staff (second year) that shook up the roster causing about 12-15 players to leave has created a two deep that is very young. 

Last game against ISU our guys played and undisciplined game and had 5 personal fouls that killed some drives for us.

I would expect this to be a hard hitting good MVFC game.  Hope some of your fans make it out to the game.  Great time of the year to come to South Dakota - see a good game and pheasant hunt as well.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: IAA Fan on October 27, 2013, 04:46:22 PM
What do those stats tell us Wick?

1. Not enough pressure from our defense between the 20's.
2. Secondary being beat and/or helping with run-stopping.

Two things that I have said all along:

1. Your defense is as your offense goes. We are a high scoring offense, so our defense is built to stop that. Much more like a Big Sky defense, than a MVFC defense.

2. QB's at our level are going to through the ball any time they get on-on-one coverage. Corners keeping up with receivers is not good enough. However, I think we can do well in the post-season playing non-conference opposition.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on October 27, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
I am excited to see your team in person this year in Vermillion.  Have a ton of respect for your program.  Obviously you are having a solid start to your year with some tough games to finish.  While the USD game may strike you as the easiest on paper, I think it may be the second toughest remaining.

I think the game will come down to how much pressure the defenses put on the QBs.  We have an inexperienced starting QB.  Your QB is seasoned and will most likely not get rattled even if our defense gets him a few times.

How is your OL this year?

Our special teams - especially punt team has been the worst in the MVFC.  I think we finally found a long snapper that can actually be depended on - only took eight games.....

Like most Valley teams we are banged up - several starters have gone down either during or before the season with season ending injuries.  Couple that with a new coaching staff (second year) that shook up the roster causing about 12-15 players to leave has created a two deep that is very young. 

Last game against ISU our guys played and undisciplined game and had 5 personal fouls that killed some drives for us.

I would expect this to be a hard hitting good MVFC game.  Hope some of your fans make it out to the game.  Great time of the year to come to South Dakota - see a good game and pheasant hunt as well.


Thanks for posting on the site. Should be a good game. Your strength is our weakness. I think our QB plays better in a dome.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Wick250 on October 27, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
OBC,

Traditionally, the offensive line is the backbone of YSU football.  The O-line this season has been reasonably dependable overall.  Perhaps not up to our very high traditional standards, but the offensive statistics suggest that they are functional.

The real strength of this football team rests in the skilled positions.  YSU might not have the best qb or the best running back or the best wide receiver or the best tight end in the MVFC, but our stable of skilled athletes is larger, by far, than any team in the conference.  And the depth at the skilled positions is amazing for the FCS level, everywhere except for quarterback.  Nobody in FCS really has two good ones.  You cannot concentrate on shutting down only one phase of the YSU offense; they can attack you in a variety of ways.

As you have detected from reading this site, defense is our primary concern.  Too many yards allowed before the red zone.  Too many third down conversions allowed.  So to beat us you must score much more than you have all season.  And that is certainly a possibility.  Because you will be going up against the best and most diverse offense that you will see all year.

Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: HappyPenguin on October 28, 2013, 09:02:27 AM
OBC, our special teams have been great this year. At least by our standards.

Under Wolford up to this year you always held your breath when the other team was returning...big returns came way too easily. Coverage has improved a great deal this season.

Our return game has been solid, not spectacular.

Our punter has a nice leg...I hope we don't see him except on kickoffs but if he has a long field to punt into check him out.

I'm sure at least a few YSU insiders will have the old stopwatch out for that all-important hang time (inside joke).
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: lakesbison on October 28, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 29, 2013, 08:24:00 AM
I'm sure at least a few YSU insiders will have the old stopwatch out for that all-important hang time (inside joke).

If Coach Hartzell were still doing the games, he would be raving about Liste on a very regular basis.  29 touchbacks on kickoffs, 12 punts inside the 20, and 13 punts over 50 yards.  Nick has probably heard from Coach a few times this season. 
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: DavedS on October 29, 2013, 10:39:20 AM
We would also know precisely how much hang-time on each punt. ;)
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 29, 2013, 11:15:04 AM
It's gonna be a battle that's for sure
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ScarletRook on October 29, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
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While the USD game may strike you as the easiest on paper, I think it may be the second toughest remaining.

Not sure where it comes off the easiest unless you are comparing to the last four games.  At this point YSU enters every game with a target on them.  Usually a coming off a bye week and long travel are tough, but necessary evils if you are going to win championships.

Any report of injuries and if anyone has healed up for the Penguins?

GO GUINS
Players don't come to Youngstown to look at Championship trophies - the come to win them.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on October 29, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
I would expect at this point in the season that our OL and DL should be getting toward the end of the learning curve ( as well as all other positions).  Based on the depth that we appear to have been developing and the number of weapons that Wick has pointed out, I think we should wear this team down on offense and roll up the TOP. I could be wrong as I am often, but a dominant game after resing during the bye week is what I expect.  However, I was wrong about the WIU game. I expected us to play better.  They were tough.

Most think this team is on par with SIU from what I've read. And they are probably just as good in the passing game. I would like to see a defensive performance like we had against ISU-red. That was a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 29, 2013, 08:26:32 PM
These guys have the worst offense in the league. It is imperative that we hold them under 20 points. If we do that, I think we win by 10. If they score 21-24, we win by less than a TD.

First team to 28 wins!

GO YSU!
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on October 29, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
These guys have the worst offense in the league. It is imperative that we hold them under 20 points. If we do that, I think we win by 10. If they score 21-24, we win by less than a TD.

First team to 28 wins!

GO YSU!

I hear that they made a QB change that has yielded them some tough wins.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 30, 2013, 09:56:57 AM
I agree with the dangerous game thesis, but this game should go YSU.  South Dakota has nothing to lose and a decent defense, and the QB change there has resulted in a marked improvement of the team, so I expect this team to be tenacious and hard to swat down, much like W. Illinois. Nonetheless, YSU has too many weapons, especially on offense and on special teams, and it will be hard for SD to contain YSU a full four quarters. Although being on the road in an unfamiliar dome is a disadvantage, the dry conditions and 50-degree temperature will aid Hess and Stubbs, who don't seem to play well under adverse weather conditions.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 30, 2013, 10:54:33 AM
South Dakota's defense is tough. They are undefeated at home and have been playing much better since the QB change they made.... It will be a battle.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Wick250 on October 30, 2013, 12:45:42 PM
I agree this, like all road games, will be difficult.  We could certainly beat ourselves if we are unprepared and not properly motivated.  As far as South Dakota being undefeated at home, let's look at the three opponents.  They beat Cal-Davis, 10-7, Missouri State 17-14, and Indiana State 17-14.  As far as YSU and our aversion to playing in a dome, the WATTS center should have removed that obstacle.  We can simulate the atmosphere and the field conditions (no crown) perfectly.  Bottom line: we need to do our jobs, no excuses.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: lakesbison on October 30, 2013, 07:22:49 PM
Wick can you simulate high school teams using the field too?  Oh wait, wrong south dakota team! Haha.

Ysu 31 usd 14
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on October 31, 2013, 10:21:33 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on October 31, 2013, 11:19:54 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.


That is an NDSU fan putting smack on our board.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 31, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
YSU's offense will be tough to slow down in a dome.  Guins 35 - 21.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on October 31, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: lakesbison on October 31, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.


That is an NDSU fan putting smack on our board.

Yea he knows that.....its in reference to me making fun of the Uni Pansies losing to them....I told panthernation it'd be embarrassing to lose to the mangy dogs....then they choked..haha
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on October 31, 2013, 03:02:28 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.


That is an NDSU fan putting smack on our board.

Yea he knows that.....its in reference to me making fun of the Uni Pansies losing to them....I told panthernation it'd be embarrassing to lose to the mangy dogs....then they choked..haha


What was their reason for losing?
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on October 31, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: DavedS on October 31, 2013, 05:36:47 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
They were 1-10 last year and only lost to us by 3 @ Stambaugh--we have to keep the pedal down for the entire game--Team Choke was up on them 28-6 with 6minutes left in the 3rd qtr. and ended up losing.Let's not take them lightly and take care of business because we must take control of our destiny--with our high ranking they will be even more motivated to knock us off.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: guinpen on October 31, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
They were 1-10 last year and only lost to us by 3 @ Stambaugh--we have to keep the pedal down for the entire game--Team Choke was up on them 28-6 with 6minutes left in the 3rd qtr. and ended up losing.Let's not take them lightly and take care of business because we must take control of our destiny--with our high ranking they will be even more motivated to knock us off.

I agree,

We can win all remaining games or lose them. Have to stay focused and take one game at a time and take each one seriously.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on November 01, 2013, 12:48:22 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

Nah, you're a mediocre 4-4 team who's not that great. Its just like the old saying goes your only as good as your record. YSU should win pretty comfortably probably by 17 min.


We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.


Ifs and Butts.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.

im expecting a pretty easy win,  we are facing a average at best team, ill be worried about our playoff run if we cant beat a 4-4 team to clinch a playoff spot basically YSU has one of best offenses in football and i dont see SDU stopping them too often


Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on November 01, 2013, 04:02:25 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

Nah, you're a mediocre 4-4 team who's not that great. Its just like the old saying goes your only as good as your record. YSU should win pretty comfortably probably by 17 min.


We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.


Ifs and Butts.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.

im expecting a pretty easy win,  we are facing a average at best team, ill be worried about our playoff run if we cant beat a 4-4 team to clinch a playoff spot basically YSU has one of best offenses in football and i dont see SDU stopping them too often
If we're only as good as our record, then perhaps you should just pay attention to our record since we changed QBs, 3-1. Another good record is our home record, 3-0.

Your offense and record is very inflated by an incredibly back-loaded schedule, don't be surprised if we're the first ones to bring you a little closer to Earth. Not a chance in hell you guys win by 17 min, not even close. That arrogance won't serve you well, you've got a lot to prove still. This will be a game whether or not you want to recognize it going in. We aren't a doormat, especially not at home.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 01, 2013, 06:35:27 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

Nah, you're a mediocre 4-4 team who's not that great. Its just like the old saying goes your only as good as your record. YSU should win pretty comfortably probably by 17 min.


We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.


Ifs and Butts.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.

im expecting a pretty easy win,  we are facing a average at best team, ill be worried about our playoff run if we cant beat a 4-4 team to clinch a playoff spot basically YSU has one of best offenses in football and i dont see SDU stopping them too often


No need for locker room material. In today's age it is easy for things like this to get to the players on both sides. There is no need to talk smack. The games are played for a reason.  It will come soon enough. 

Our offense has not been as good against the better defenses and they have a very good defense. Also our weakness is defending the pass and they seem like they have this figured out with the QB change. They are at home and we've never played there. We are also coming off a bye week, hopefully we don't have to make adjustments to the speed of the game. This is a dangerous game.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: DavedS on November 01, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
All games are dangerous--I'm sure that 27pt favorite UNI didn't expect to get beat in their home by USD--after all they only lost to NDSU by a point and many say outplayed them--they also had annihilated McNeese 41-6 and McNeese ended up beating 2 time runner up SHSU and  they also beat Iowa State.I didn't think YSU would lose to 1-9 Missouri State @ Stambaugh with a playoff berth on the line.We have to take control of this one and never let up until its over.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on November 01, 2013, 11:51:04 AM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

Nah, you're a mediocre 4-4 team who's not that great. Its just like the old saying goes your only as good as your record. YSU should win pretty comfortably probably by 17 min.


We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.


Ifs and Butts.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.

im expecting a pretty easy win,  we are facing a average at best team, ill be worried about our playoff run if we cant beat a 4-4 team to clinch a playoff spot basically YSU has one of best offenses in football and i dont see SDU stopping them too often
If we're only as good as our record, then perhaps you should just pay attention to our record since we changed QBs, 3-1. Another good record is our home record, 3-0.

Your offense and record is very inflated by an incredibly back-loaded schedule, don't be surprised if we're the first ones to bring you a little closer to Earth. Not a chance in hell you guys win by 17 min, not even close. That arrogance won't serve you well, you've got a lot to prove still. This will be a game whether or not you want to recognize it going in. We aren't a doormat, especially not at home.

You're 4-4, not 3-1. not 1-3, but 4-4. Whats funny is you call someone else arrogant yet have you read your garbage post on here? you think some mediocre team is going to beat a top 10 team, thats what i call arrogant.  like i said, 2 weeks to gameplan? 17 point win minimum.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: IAA Fan on November 01, 2013, 12:31:38 PM
Relax AF, he is right about the weak up-front schedule. We were all saying the same things on here. Their league record is solid. Like DavedS says ...this game is dangerous. We cannot afford to take anyone for granted, and cause another melt-down.

I would further that by saying that we cannot think that we are "in" with one more win. That is especially true with what you are saying. Of these last 4-games, 2 teams are progressing and 2 are regressing. USD, along with NDSU, are progressing. We must beat UNI and SDSU at all costs. However, 8 weeks ago, these were (in my mind) the two top teams in the conference.

As to USD, all indications are they they can "play with anyone". I am more worried about meeting them in 2014. They seem like another WKU. WKU was a good team, joined the Gateway, picked up the recruits that our conference can draw, and won a national title in just a couple of years.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on November 01, 2013, 12:54:58 PM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: lakesbison on November 01, 2013, 01:01:31 PM
YSU will crush USD, the coyotes got beat 50-0 by ndsu last year.   UNI is just that bad.
You say we'll get crushed every week. We're not the same team we were last year. YSU will be doing great if they take us by more than 7.

Ill be very disappointed if we win by only 7, if SDU was worth a damn they wouldn't be 4-4
I suppose it would be a disappointment since your record is so good, but prepare to be disappointed. We're a young improving team, doing very well under our new QB that had sweeping changes throughout the whole team. Don't just look at our record, we made a very drastic change after starting 1-3 and are 3-1 since. The line I see for the game has us at 7.5 point underdogs, so I'm not the only one that thinks a 7+ point win would be overachieving.

Nah, you're a mediocre 4-4 team who's not that great. Its just like the old saying goes your only as good as your record. YSU should win pretty comfortably probably by 17 min.


We had our chances against IlSU, but couldn't execute on offense when it counted most. The punting game put the defense in a bad spot all day, and 3 of the 4 scores given up started well into our territory. Defense was beyond clutch in the 4th like they have been all year, forcing 3 turnovers as well as a turnover on downs at our 30 yard line while giving up no points. The last 4 games in the 4th quarter the opponents have combined for 125 yards on 59 plays with 6 turnovers, and we currently possess the #2 ranked pass defense and #5 total defense in the NCAA.


Ifs and Butts.

Expect a good game. We are a second half team, so don't get too excited if you get out to an early lead. We are 44-8 at home in the last 10 years, the Dome is historically a very tough place for visitors, and we are already 3-0 this year at home.

im expecting a pretty easy win,  we are facing a average at best team, ill be worried about our playoff run if we cant beat a 4-4 team to clinch a playoff spot basically YSU has one of best offenses in football and i dont see SDU stopping them too often
If we're only as good as our record, then perhaps you should just pay attention to our record since we changed QBs, 3-1. Another good record is our home record, 3-0.

Your offense and record is very inflated by an incredibly back-loaded schedule, don't be surprised if we're the first ones to bring you a little closer to Earth. Not a chance in hell you guys win by 17 min, not even close. That arrogance won't serve you well, you've got a lot to prove still. This will be a game whether or not you want to recognize it going in. We aren't a doormat, especially not at home.

Wait wait wait.......south dakota fan calling out YSU as arrogance? ?  Hahaha.  What the heck have they done ever?
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on November 01, 2013, 05:54:22 PM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 01, 2013, 07:13:13 PM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

I expect our line to take over the game, but I agree it could be close and we could lose especially in your dome.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on November 01, 2013, 08:05:18 PM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

yeah it is as cut and dry as it is, if you were any good you wouldn't be 4-4 and struggling to stay above water in the confrence play either. YSUs offense is too good this year to get blown over by anyone this year, sorry to burst your bubble
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on November 02, 2013, 04:52:21 AM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

yeah it is as cut and dry as it is, if you were any good you wouldn't be 4-4 and struggling to stay above water in the confrence play either. YSUs offense is too good this year to get blown over by anyone this year, sorry to burst your bubble
Your worth goes no deeper than your record, and no opponent with a worse record than you can compete with you. Teams don't stack up differently at all, hot streaks and mid season adjustments are a myth, and playing on the road in a hostile environment is a piece of cake. Don't let that big head of yours near any pins or needles.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 02, 2013, 05:41:32 AM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

yeah it is as cut and dry as it is, if you were any good you wouldn't be 4-4 and struggling to stay above water in the confrence play either. YSUs offense is too good this year to get blown over by anyone this year, sorry to burst your bubble
Your worth goes no deeper than your record, and no opponent with a worse record than you can compete with you. Teams don't stack up differently at all, hot streaks and mid season adjustments are a myth, and playing on the road in a hostile environment is a piece of cake. Don't let that big head of yours near any pins or needles.


Yotes,

FWIW AFGuin is relativley new to the ysu board and hee is a young kid (high school) and he is still invincible and everything he believes is true.

It should be a good close physical game as all the games are in this conference.

Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: AFGuin on November 02, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

yeah it is as cut and dry as it is, if you were any good you wouldn't be 4-4 and struggling to stay above water in the confrence play either. YSUs offense is too good this year to get blown over by anyone this year, sorry to burst your bubble
Your worth goes no deeper than your record, and no opponent with a worse record than you can compete with you. Teams don't stack up differently at all, hot streaks and mid season adjustments are a myth, and playing on the road in a hostile environment is a piece of cake. Don't let that big head of yours near any pins or needles.

its ok i understand, your just a homer who doens't understand football and you think good teams can be .500 teams.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysufan0505 on November 02, 2013, 11:42:07 AM
USD's defense is tough but I think we will run the ball easily and their offense will not keep pace with us.... GO GUINS!
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 02, 2013, 12:34:28 PM
USD's defense is tough but I think we will run the ball easily and their offense will not keep pace with us.... GO GUINS!


I totally agree with you on this. The game plan will probably be to run the ball right at their defense.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on November 02, 2013, 05:45:44 PM
So what? you still have to play and win the games, they aren't won or lost on paper. they are 3-2 in confrence, not really solid when it just takes 1 game to have gone the other way for them to be under .500.  we are in at 9-3, thats guarenteed. last year 12 teams made the playoffs with 8-3 record or 4 losses all together, a 9-3 team wont be left out.  all indications are they are a 4-4 team who YSU should beat by a few scores if YSU is a legit team this year.

sh** on this board gets old not seeing the players/coaches get the respect from people like you they have earned this year
Look a little deeper, analyze the game, it's not nearly as cut and dry as you put it.

Settling for one more win isn't the right thing to do either unless you want to limp into the playoffs and get blown over by the first team you play.

yeah it is as cut and dry as it is, if you were any good you wouldn't be 4-4 and struggling to stay above water in the confrence play either. YSUs offense is too good this year to get blown over by anyone this year, sorry to burst your bubble
Your worth goes no deeper than your record, and no opponent with a worse record than you can compete with you. Teams don't stack up differently at all, hot streaks and mid season adjustments are a myth, and playing on the road in a hostile environment is a piece of cake. Don't let that big head of yours near any pins or needles.

its ok i understand, your just a homer who doens't understand football and you think good teams can be .500 teams.
Teenager or veteran who doesn't understand football aside, your team isn't nearly as good as you say it is. The team that will win by 17 points at a minimum was losing with 15 seconds left, and if our defense didn't collapse on the last drive you would have lost. Again, careful with that big head, you're going to lose some games.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Wick250 on November 02, 2013, 07:52:46 PM
Well Yotes, gracious loser I see. :o  The shocking thing about this game was not the performance of the YSU defense.  We had been telling you all week that we had major issues on that side of the ball.  The shocking attribute of this football game was the performance of the South Dakota defense, the statistical juggernaut that you bragged about all week.  Seems like they crumbled like a house of cards when they confronted their first opponent in the MVFC that actually had some offensive weapons.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Yotes on November 02, 2013, 08:11:06 PM
Well Yotes, gracious loser I see. :o  The shocking thing about this game was not the performance of the YSU defense.  We had been telling you all week that we had major issues on that side of the ball.  The shocking attribute of this football game was the performance of the South Dakota defense, the statistical juggernaut that you bragged about all week.  Seems like they crumbled like a house of cards when they confronted their first opponent in the MVFC that actually had some offensive weapons.
It should seem that way. We were right there, a defensive stop and we win, but the defense crumbled and even had a personal foul on the way to giving up a touchdown. Very upset after the loss, calming down a bit now, but it was not at all the mismatch that one certain poster wanted everyone want to believe.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 02, 2013, 08:21:55 PM
Well Yotes, gracious loser I see. :o  The shocking thing about this game was not the performance of the YSU defense.  We had been telling you all week that we had major issues on that side of the ball.  The shocking attribute of this football game was the performance of the South Dakota defense, the statistical juggernaut that you bragged about all week.  Seems like they crumbled like a house of cards when they confronted their first opponent in the MVFC that actually had some offensive weapons.
It should seem that way. We were right there, a defensive stop and we win, but the defense crumbled and even had a personal foul on the way to giving up a touchdown. Very upset after the loss, calming down a bit now, but it was not at all the mismatch that one certain poster wanted everyone want to believe.

Everyone has a village idiot.

With all of the penalties and circumstances working against YSU they still pushed your defense around at times. Look at the stats.  USD is a good team and they are well coached. They will be a force to reclon with and will be a top conference team in a few years.

YSU had issues with your field grass. 
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: Spiderlegs on November 02, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
YSU offense played about how I expected except for the fumbles.  I didn't expect this since the field was dry. Take away the 17 points on turnovers and YSU would have looked pretty dominant today.

The YSU defense was actually a little better than I expected.  Occasionally there was something that looked like a pass rush, and on some plays Earl was actually forced to throw the ball early.  However, the pass rush was very inconsistent--on some plays, it was not there at all.

I'm convinced that the opponent rushes into the secondary and the vulnerability of the D to passes up the middle on 3rd down is a linebacker issue. Disappointed that this isn't fixed yet.  This seems like a coaching issue to me--I noticed that the USD linebackers were quite aggressive.

Earl was what I expected--good but not great.  He's young--will be a fearsome competitor in a year or two.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: OBC on November 02, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
Good game today.  Was a tough fought game by both squads.  In the end, your offense was too much for us.

Good luck the rest of the way.

OBC
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: DavedS on November 02, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Good game today.  Was a tough fought game by both squads.  In the end, your offense was too much for us.

Good luck the rest of the way.

OBC
Game was what I expected--a hard fought battle--you guys nearly beat us @ Stambaugh last year and I knew that you were a much improved team and that you were playing at your home where you always do quite well--good luck the rest of the way and thanks for your classy post-- its always tough to deal with a very close loss but tough teams always bounce back.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ValleyTalk on November 03, 2013, 12:18:43 AM
3 YSU turnovers left to 3 short USD fields and 17 USD points. You cannot turn it over 3 times and expect to win. Defense was put in those bad spots and it reflects in the score, but that game should not have been that close. However, a win is a win and we got UNI that we need to worry about now.

Want to talk about atmosphere. What I witnessed in person in South Dakota today was a great atmosphere for football. We get 20-30 fans on our feet making mediocre noise on third down, while they get 70% of their fans on their feet on EVERY SINGLE THIRD DOWN. That noise, coupled with the band playing nauseating "noise", in the poorly acoustic dome, is intimidating for the opposition.

We pride ourselves on having a great environment. I challenge everyone at the next home game to match what I saw in Vermillion today. A fan base that doesn't look back to see if they are blocking anyone's view on third down, but a fan base that truly wants to make it difficult to get a first down on third down by getting on their feet and making noise!

USD's Noise today was louder than any YSU crowd all year. However, what matters is we got the WIN!

Go YSU!
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 03, 2013, 04:40:02 AM
3 YSU turnovers left to 3 short USD fields and 17 USD points. You cannot turn it over 3 times and expect to win. Defense was put in those bad spots and it reflects in the score, but that game should not have been that close. However, a win is a win and we got UNI that we need to worry about now.

Want to talk about atmosphere. What I witnessed in person in South Dakota today was a great atmosphere for football. We get 20-30 fans on our feet making mediocre noise on third down, while they get 70% of their fans on their feet on EVERY SINGLE THIRD DOWN. That noise, coupled with the band playing nauseating "noise", in the poorly acoustic dome, is intimidating for the opposition.

We pride ourselves on having a great environment. I challenge everyone at the next home game to match what I saw in Vermillion today. A fan base that doesn't look back to see if they are blocking anyone's view on third down, but a fan base that truly wants to make it difficult to get a first down on third down by getting on their feet and making noise!

USD's Noise today was louder than any YSU crowd all year. However, what matters is we got the WIN!

Go YSU!


I also have an issue with many in YSU crowd. It drives me nuts that people aren't on their feet. Not that many uears ago I remember stabding the entire game. Now people tell me to sit down and I tell them to sit somewhere else because I'm not sitting down. The last time we had an amped up atmosphere was vs JMU in 2006. It was a playoff game and it was loud.

It is easier for them to be loud because of the dome, but I think Stick said it best, he saw a woman crocheting in the stands.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: YsuPride on November 03, 2013, 07:50:46 AM
We all know that YSU never draws good in November even in the Tressel years.  I would be pleased with over 16,000 fans if the weather is decent.   YSU needs to get as many students to the game as possible.  What is YSU doing extra to market this game?  So far I see no extra marketing.  Don't show the game on replay until Sunday.  Lets go Strollo and market this game!!!  Do something different.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysuindy on November 03, 2013, 09:56:35 AM
From the Sioux City Journal

http://siouxcityjournal.com/sports/football/college/usd/late-score-lifts-no-youngstown-state-past-coyotes/article_c1e8df83-a1e9-5ee9-b2ba-14e66b43331d.html
 (http://siouxcityjournal.com/sports/football/college/usd/late-score-lifts-no-youngstown-state-past-coyotes/article_c1e8df83-a1e9-5ee9-b2ba-14e66b43331d.html)
VERMILLION, S.D. | In a back-and-forth contest that went to the final gun, Youngstown State dealt the decisive blow, scoring with 14 seconds remaining to clip South Dakota 38-34 Saturday at the DakotaDome.

It took all the 10th-ranked Penguins had to avoid an upset by South Dakota in the emotional Missouri Valley Football Conference game played in front of 6,676 fans.

Martin Ruiz scored on a 3-yard run with 14 ticks left, capping a 74-yard drive after USD’s Jordan Roberts burst up the middle for an 11-yard touchdown with 2:14 remaining, putting his team in front 38-34.

A costly personal foul penalty for a late hit on USD’s Aaron Swift aided the Penguins on the winning march. Quarterback Kurt Hess fired a 15-yard strike to Bryan Christian to the 3-yard line with 27 seconds remaining and after a spike to stop the clock, Ruiz slipped into the end zone and put a dagger in the Coyotes’ heart.

Ruiz, a freshman, rushed for 131 yards and two touchdowns while Hess completed 22 of 26 passes (283 yards) as the Penguins racked up 517 yards of offense against one of the top defenses in the country. USD entered the contest ranked No. 2 nationally in the Football Championship Subdivision in pass defense and were fifth in total defense.

Youngstown State, now 8-1 overall, moved to 5-0 in the MVFC for the first time in school history. The loss was the first at home this season for the Coyotes, now 4-5 overall and 3-3 in the conference.

“This was a good football team we played and we just couldn’t find an answer for them on defense,” South Dakota Coach Joe Glenn said. “They just had too many weapons and it all starts at quarterback, that guy is phenomenal and he was the difference in the game.

“They did run some dives we couldn’t stop and that’s disappointing because they ran that about 42 times on us last year. I give them a lot of credit, they execute really, really well. But we were disappointed in some of our execution, we just didn’t get the dive shut down.”

Jody Webb raced 42 yards up the middle on an aforementioned dive play in the third quarter as YSU went in front 31-27 after erasing an eight-point deficit with 11:14 left in the game.

And, even though the Coyotes answered with a go-ahead touchdown drive of 66 yards, two minutes was too much time to give an experienced quarterback like Hess.

“We do a two-minute drill each week and I normally give our team a minute and 16, put us all the way backed up all the time and I give them one time out and say we need a touchdown,” Youngstown State Coach Eric Wolford said. “So I walked in the huddle and lightened it up a little bit and said ‘boys, we have 2:07 left here today, so that’s like an eternity from that minute, 16 I usually give you and we need to go get seven. We had a little fun with it and the kids got a smile. They think I’m half nuts most of the time anyway.

“Obviously this is a compliment to our coaching staff and kids for perservering. We felt like we kind of had control of the game except for the self-inflicted turnovers and botched extra points.

“We’re fortunate to come in here and get a win. Coach Glenn has done a great job of changing this program, you can see the passion in the kids. We appreciated the crowd, it was a great atmosphere and you can see why it’s a tough place to play.”

The lead changed hands nine times, including two in the final three minutes.

The winning drive was Youngstown State’s fifth of 67 yards or more. The Penguins, though, had all kinds of problems on conversions, missing an extra point kick, mishandling an extra point snap and failing on a pair of two-point tries. They also lost three fumbles, which led to two USD touchdowns and a field goal.

South Dakota’s Kevin Earl passed for 219 yards and two touchdowns. An 11-yarder to former starting quarterback Josh Vander Maten midway through the third quarter gave the Coyotes a 27-19 lead.

Hess, though, drew the Penguins within 27-25 on a 3-yard pass to Michael Wheary on fourth down with 1:08 left in the third quarter. Hess also threw a 40-yard touchdown pass to Webb for the game’s first touchdown and scored on a 3-yard run.

The Coyotes sacked Hess four times – one each by Keyen Lage, Drew Iddings, Tyler Starr and Emilious Davis – but the veteran signal-caller completed passes to nine different receivers.

Youngstown State’s balanced offensive ledger included 283 passing and 234 rushing yards.

USD’s Trevor Bouma, playing at less than 100 percent because of a bad back, nonetheless carried 16 times for 76 yards. Roberts was carried off the field after sustaining what looked to be a serious knee injury, but returned to score the go-ahead touchdown.

True freshman Riley Donovan had 103 receiving yards, becoming the first Coyote to record three consecutive 100-yard performances since Dan Skelly in 2008. Miles Bergner, another freshman, connected on field goals of 39 and 40 yards, the latter with 1:20 left in the first half to give his team a 20-19 lead.

“This loss is one of the toughest because it’s more than likely going to knock us out of the playoffs,” Starr said. “We should have won the game. We had multiple chances to win it but the defense didn’t play very well. The offense was putting points on the board and that’s all we could ask for.”

The Coyotes are home again Saturday, hosting nationally-ranked Montana in a non-conference game at 1 p.m.

Youngstown State 38, USD 34

Youngstown State 7 12 6 13 -- 38

South Dakota 3 17 7 7 -- 34

First Quarter

USD: FG Miles Bergner 39, 4:49

YSU: Jody Webb 40 pass from Kurt Hess (Joey Cejudo kick) 1:39

Second Quarter

USD: Kevin Earl 17 run (Bergner kick) 13:17

YSU: Hess 4 run (kick failed) 8:56

USD: Kayl Barkley 9 pass from Earl (Bergner kick) 8:03

YSU: Martin Ruiz 6 run (run failed) 5:13

USD: FG Bergner 40, 1:20

Third Quarter

USD: Josh Vander Maten 11 pass from Earl (Bergner kick) 6:10

YSU: Michael Wheary 3 pass from Hess (pass failed) 1:08

Fourth Quarter

YSU: Webb 42 run (pass failed) 11:14

USD: Jordan Roberts 11 run (Bergner kick) 2:14

YSU: Ruiz 3 run (Cejudo kick) :14

TEAM STATISTICS

YSU USD

First downs 25 24

Rushes-yards 51-234 36-159

Passing yards 283 229

Passes 22-27-0 17-32-0

Total plays-yards 78-517 68-388

Fumbles-lost 3-3 1-0

Penalties-yards 6-69 8-60

Punts-avg. 2-41.5 6-39.5

Possession time 34:04 25:56

3rd down conversions 9-15 6-14

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS

RUSHING: Youngstown State – Martin Ruiz 23-131, Jody Webb 5-64, Demond Hymes 7-18, Andre Stubbs 3-17, Carson Sharbaugh 1-4, Kurt Hess 12-0. South Dakota – Trevor Bouma 16-76, Kevin Earl 8-33, Jordan Roberts 9-29, Josh Vander Maten 1-10, Terrance Terry 1-6, Nick Meyer 1-5.

PASSING: Youngstown State – Kurt Hess 22-26-0—283. South Dakota – Kevin Earl 16-31-0—219, Josh Vander Maten 1-1-0—10.

RECEIVING: Youngstown State – Marcel Carver 5-43, Christian Bryan 4-52, Michael Wheary 4-42, Jody Webb 2-52, Martin Ruiz 2-19, Carson Sharbaugh 2-14, Jacob Wood 1-49, Andrew Williams 1-14, Andre Stubbs 1-(-2). South Dakota – Riley Donovan 4-103, Josh Vander Maten 3-29, Nick Meyer 2-36, Kayl Barkley 2-22, Terrance Terry 2-15, Jordan Roberts 2-10, Tyler Wilhelm 1-10, Trevor Bouma 1-4.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysuindy on November 03, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
From the Sioux Falls Argus Leader

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131103/SPORTS0203/311030022/Out-reach-Late-TD-boosts-Youngstown-State-past-Coyotes?nclick_check=1 (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131103/SPORTS0203/311030022/Out-reach-Late-TD-boosts-Youngstown-State-past-Coyotes?nclick_check=1)

VERMILLION — The entertainment value was as high as the level of disappointment for a University of South Dakota football team that pushed the No. 10 team to the edge of an upset Saturday at the DakotaDome.

Youngstown State’s Martin Ruiz scored on a 3-yard run with 14 seconds left to give the Penguins the right lead at the right time in a 38-34 win over the Coyotes, who lost for the second consecutive week after winning three straight games by three points.

It was the eighth conference win in a row for the Penguins (8-1, 5-0 Missouri Valley Football Conference), dating back to a 13-10 win over the Coyotes last season. Saturday’s victory, which included 517 yards of total offense from the visitors, was also Youngstown’s 11th consecutive win over an FCS school.

“This was one of the worst,” said senior USD linebacker Tyler Starr, who had one of the Coyotes’ three sacks. “Because it probably knocked us out of a playoff shot. We had multiple opportunities to win. From a defensive standpoint, our offense put points on the board and that’s all we could ask for.”

The playoff talk for the Coyotes (4-5, 3-3) never rose above a whisper publicly in 2013, but it was a target within the team that most likely vanished against the Penguins.

With five losses (three in the conference), any remaining hope for a postseason was most likely drummed out by Youngstown quarterback Kurt Hess, who completed 22 of 26 passes for 283 yards and two touchdowns against the second-best pass defense in FCS.

The senior, who holds nearly every career quarterbacking record for the Penguins, was never really stopped. Youngstown punted just two times.

“We just couldn’t find an answer for them on defense,” USD coach Joe Glenn said. “They had too many weapons. And it all starts for that team at quarterback. He’s phenomenal.”

The Coyotes definitely had their moments in this upset attempt. They led 20-19 at half and also had a 27-19 lead, and – maddeningly – a 34-31 edge with 2:14 to play. But there were reasons the Penguins have won a lot of games recently, and the Coyotes were witness to them.

“We felt like we had control of the game, except for the self-inflicted turnovers and the botched extra points,” Youngstown State coach Eric Wolford said, adding, “We were lucky to come in here and get a win.”

USD led 20-19 at halftime but obtained that lead without the defensive effort that had been such a big part of the season. The Penguins lost fumbles twice, gave up the ball on downs deep in USD territory to end another drive and whiffed on a pair of point-after attempts while rolling up 301 yards in total offense.

Even so, the Coyotes were able to add to their lead midway with 6:10 left in the third quarter on an 11-yard Earl pass to Josh Vander Maten to make the score 27-19. Drew Iddings knocked the ball out of Hess’ hands on a sack and Aaron Swift fell on it at the YSU 42. Eight plays later, Earl connected with Vander Maten.

“We executed today and we didn’t turn the ball over,” said Earl, who completed 16 of 31 for 219 yards. “That was a big plus. We maintained control of the ball and we made big plays when we could. We didn’t do anything different – we just ran our plays.”

The eight-point lead was gone when Hess hit Michael Wheary in the back of the end zone on a fourth-and-goal from the USD 3. USD stayed ahead on the scoreboard by thwarting the Penguins’ two-pointer, but they weren’t done.

A 42-yard Jody Webb run with 11:14 to play – the “back-breaker” in Glenn’s opinion – gave YSU a 31-27 lead. The Coyotes answered late with an 11-yard touchdown run from Jordan Roberts, but not late enough.

He scored with 2:14 remaining and Hess had the ball back in his hands with 2:07 left at his own 26. Given his work in finding open receivers, 2:07 was plenty of time.

“We work on a two-minute drill a lot with these guys,” Wolford said. “I back them way up and give them a minute and sixteen seconds and give them one timeout and tell them we need a touchdown. So I walked in the huddle today and tried to lighten the mood up. I said, ‘Boys, we got 2:07 here today. That’s like an eternity.”

It was a very long two minutes for the Coyote defense, no doubt about that. The drive included a 15-yard penalty on a late hit by Swift, but USD had given no indication up to that point in the 74-yard, 10-play drive that they’d be able to stop the Penguins.

The Coyotes play host to Montana next week and South Dakota State on Nov. 16 before finishing the season at North Dakota State. They will proceed against the three top-20 teams without a hint of playoff fever.

“We can’t look ahead – we have Montana coming in – we’re going to clean this up,” said USD senior cornerback Jarrid Bryant. “We gave up 500 yards today and that’s way too many. Our offense played their tails off. This one was definitely on the defense.”
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: penguinpower on November 03, 2013, 02:36:17 PM
http://www.goyotes.com/allaccess/?media=418143

Their post game presser-----Go to the reaction clip.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: guinpen on November 03, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Good game today.  Was a tough fought game by both squads.  In the end, your offense was too much for us.

Good luck the rest of the way.

OBC

Classy, thanks and best to you folks the rest of the year.
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ValleyTalk on November 04, 2013, 10:55:22 PM
I shot this Saturday at the DakotaDome for anyone who cares lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHbgWXdaVc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The South Dakota game
Post by: ysuindy on November 04, 2013, 11:58:50 PM
I shot this Saturday at the DakotaDome for anyone who cares lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHbgWXdaVc&feature=youtu.be

Looks like a very different place to play a game.