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Wolf Officially Gone
Penguin Nation:
The program not improved?
After inheriting the "Team of the 90s", and after nine years as HC, Heacock's two final season's were:
4-8
6-5
After nine years to develop the program, that's apparently the best he could do. Then he took a year off on YSU's dollar.
The Wolf record:
3-8
6-5 includes a win at eventual national champs NDSU
7-4 includes a 31-17 win at Pitt, and a win vs UNI (not done by Heacock)
8-4
7-5
How is going from 4-8 and 6-5 to 8-4 and 7-5 not an improvement? I know I went to Youngstown schools but 7 and 8 are greater than 4 and 6.
Anyway, Wolf will be fine. Best of luck to him. I like him, but close is not good enough.
ValleyTalk:
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on November 24, 2014, 09:43:10 PM ---The program not improved?
After inheriting the "Team of the 90s", and after nine years as HC, Heacock's two final season's were:
4-8
6-5
After nine years to develop the program, that's apparently the best he could do. Then he took a year off on YSU's dollar.
The Wolf record:
3-8
6-5 includes a win at eventual national champs NDSU
7-4 includes a 31-17 win at Pitt, and a win vs UNI (not done by Heacock)
8-4
7-5
How is going from 4-8 and 6-5 to 8-4 and 7-5 not an improvement? I know I went to Youngstown schools but 7 and 8 are greater than 4 and 6.
Anyway, Wolf will be fine. Best of luck to him. I like him, but close is not good enough.
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Well said. Agree 100%
YSU FAN#34:
I guess there are two ways to define or discuss "improvement." Did Wolf's wins and losses get better than Heacock? Yes=improvement. Did Wolford get us into the playoffs more often than Heacock? No=no improvement. Did wolford get us into the playoffs? No=no improvement.
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on November 24, 2014, 09:43:10 PM ---The program not improved?
After inheriting the "Team of the 90s", and after nine years as HC, Heacock's two final season's were:
4-8
6-5
After nine years to develop the program, that's apparently the best he could do. Then he took a year off on YSU's dollar.
The Wolf record:
3-8
6-5 includes a win at eventual national champs NDSU
7-4 includes a 31-17 win at Pitt, and a win vs UNI (not done by Heacock)
8-4
7-5
How is going from 4-8 and 6-5 to 8-4 and 7-5 not an improvement? I know I went to Youngstown schools but 7 and 8 are greater than 4 and 6.
Anyway, Wolf will be fine. Best of luck to him. I like him, but close is not good enough.
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You took the years were we were converting to a spread offense under coach H ...so the fair comparison is Wolf's first two vs. H's last 2. Record the same. So you don't think that if Wolf had won the MVFC twice, that we would not have had at least 2 post-season appearances and not having this conversation right now? Did he make it to the semi's?
Penguin Nation:
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on November 24, 2014, 10:13:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on November 24, 2014, 09:43:10 PM ---The program not improved?
After inheriting the "Team of the 90s", and after nine years as HC, Heacock's two final season's were:
4-8
6-5
After nine years to develop the program, that's apparently the best he could do. Then he took a year off on YSU's dollar.
The Wolf record:
3-8
6-5 includes a win at eventual national champs NDSU
7-4 includes a 31-17 win at Pitt, and a win vs UNI (not done by Heacock)
8-4
7-5
How is going from 4-8 and 6-5 to 8-4 and 7-5 not an improvement? I know I went to Youngstown schools but 7 and 8 are greater than 4 and 6.
Anyway, Wolf will be fine. Best of luck to him. I like him, but close is not good enough.
--- End quote ---
You took the years were we were converting to a spread offense under coach H ...so the fair comparison is Wolf's first two vs. H's last 2. Record the same. So you don't think that if Wolf had won the MVFC twice, that we would not have had at least 2 post-season appearances and not having this conversation right now? Did he make it to the semi's?
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You can add whatever extraneous excuses you want. After 9 years of Heacock, he gave us 4-8 and 6-5. Maybe if the Wolf had four more years (like Heacock did) he'd make the playoffs one of them. I suspect he would since he came so close the last three years, including this year.
Wolf improved the program, as evidenced by his record. Heacock destroyed it, as evidenced by his record.
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