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Another rough November for Wolford (from this morning's Vindicator)

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YSUFANSINCE1990:
  All coaching jobs come with certain expectations.   The expectation at YSU when it comes to football is make the playoffs on a consistent basis. If a potential coach can't handle that, we don't want him.   All the resources are here to be a perennial playoff team.

Great tradition, excellent facilities, and a strong recruiting base.  Neither Heacock or Wolford could meet those expecations.  Heacock was only given 9 years because he was Tressel's guy and everyone liked him.  If we hire a new coach and he goes 7-5 every year and doesn't make the playoffs, he too will be fired.

Do you think 7-5 would be good enough at Alabama, Ohio State, USC??  Then why should it be good enough here.  7-5 is great at Indiana State, not Youngstown State.

If we lose Saturday, Wolford has no shot to survive.  Not only are we not making the playoffs, we have lost much of our fan base.   Wolford came in talking national titles, he hasn't delivered, bottom line.

HappyPenguin:
Throw out the first 4 games, and we are 4-3. That's within our conference.

If we lose next week its a .500 season in my eyes. I don't really count those first 4 games and I hate them, as most here probably do. The committee says they count those weenie games, I'm sure they take them with a big grain of salt. I would.

If we win we are 5-3. Not sure a 5-3 team should be in. A bubble team sure. We shouldn't act like a crime was committed if we are passed over yet again.

And 4-4 in your conference shouldn't ever get in, this isn't college basketball.

Losing 3 of our last 4, if we can manage to upset NDSU, doesn't help either.

paladin:
Actually,05, YSU would have made the playoffs multiple times under Wolf if he had had a decent DC. The o scored enough but the d couldn't stop anyone and we got out scored. The talent here has been seriously upgraded but coaching has killed them. Most players are back for next year, but a coaching change puts the program back to square one.

YSUFANSINCE1990:
 I would disagree that a coaching change puts you back to square one.   The 'right coach' can quickly win.  Indiana State is on the verge of the playoffs in just Mike Sanford's  second year, Jim Tressel won a national title in his second year at Ohio State.

 I would agree our talent on offense has been upgraded, but YSU has average players at best on defense.  Our secondary has never been good under Wolford, maybe it is the lack of talent and not blame the 3 defensive coordinators we have had the past five years.   Other than Derek Rivers, we have no game changers.   Also, never have been tough enough up front, and linebacker play not that good.

paladin:
Most teams only have one or two game changers. Duh!  Ohio St. Is always stocked, don't kid yourself and INS isn't in the playoffs yet. New staff will install their o and d regardless of what talent is here or if the talent fits. It's what THEY are comfortable with. Of course, firing the staff gets to se who is right about his point. I am game.  With the exception of #8, the secondary is not that bad and Moore has been outstanding. Much improved over previous years.

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