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penguinpower:

--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 24, 2014, 07:01:28 AM ---Power. The one thing to remember about joining another conference is that you will always play to that level ...and recruit to that level. If we join a lesser conference,we will simply have a lesser team. If we move up, we will have a better team.

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I'm not saying to join another conference?

NatChamps93949597:

--- Quote from: penguinpower on September 23, 2014, 07:02:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: NatChamps93949597 on September 23, 2014, 02:13:09 PM ---Long time lurker, first time poster here. I am a part time faculty member at YSU in the school of business. Here's my two cents.

If you all want marketing to change, I recommend you contacting this person. http://ysusports.com/information/directory/bios/brown-john

I contacted him last year regarding some basketball marketing ideas I had. Long story short, marketing for bball games got better. He and I do lunch every few months and I share with him suggestions that my section and I come up with to make the games more exciting.

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If you have his ear show him this:

1.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjMR8QJJ8-k
2.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOb4Fu-HHk
3.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSEyXq9XVLI
4.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmzLF6r1UTI

If you don't show him those at least show him this one:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjqKMrAYbw

We are waaaaaay behind the time in terms of how we project ourselves in the current age of media.  We recruit nationally and we can be seen nationally every week but all of the media is cheap local and substandard.  Recruits can only see what we have available and you never know who it is going to reach.  We need to advertise our facilities on video clips.  We need to show everything in high definition.  Compare anyone of those to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IPtIfnWMhI


There is no comparison.  We need to make videos of our success and share them via social media.  It really gets out there.  It will be shared everywhere. 

Also I would like to point out the subliminal messages in NDSU's season ticket commercial.  They talk about how important the fans are.  We don't mention it in our video.  Fire stretch internet it is substandard.  Somebody needs to take control of this over there.  The local agencies are horrible at advertising.  I could do better with a hand held video camera.  We don't even broadcast in HD.

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I'd email or call him: (330) 941-7229 or jbrown01@ysu.edu if I was you.

Penguin Nation:

--- Quote from: penguinpower on September 24, 2014, 07:09:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 24, 2014, 07:01:28 AM ---Power. The one thing to remember about joining another conference is that you will always play to that level ...and recruit to that level. If we join a lesser conference,we will simply have a lesser team. If we move up, we will have a better team.

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I'm not saying to join another conference?

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I think this reference was to my comment.

If the MVFC gets only 1 or 2 at-large bids this post-season, than I think that the Athletic Department must understand that the choice is MVFC membership versus post-season.

If YSU joined the OVC and continued to play a quarter of its schedule on non- or partial scholly schools, than yes the SOS would decline and perhaps recruiting would follow. 

However...

What I was suggesting was an innovative schedule in that the "Cupcake" games WERE the conference games, and the OOC games were the more challenging games, as well as more attractive games  to the fans.

The 3-4 OOC games I would recommend would be away games at a combo of Ohio MAC schools (winnable games) and true blood FBS games.  In this model, the SOS may actually improve above the current level, the travel budget would decline, the opponents would generate more fan interest, and there would be more blood game revenue.  The downside is less regular season home games....but...likely more post-season home games....and some "away" games are in Ohio and as close as Akron or Kent.

I think a recruit would love to play for a school that dominates its conference, plays 3-4 FBS (albeit 1-3 are MAC) games a year, and regularly plays in the post-season.

Currently we have 1-2 unpaid blood game-equivalents/year with NDSU and SDSU.  These games mean little to the casual fan.  Mock them all you want, but casual fans pay $$ and buy apparel.  These fans would far prefer games versus Ohio U, or Toledo, or definitely Akron or Kent.

How many decades longer are we going to field teams that would dominate the FCS, but are poorly served by our conference affiliation?  How many decades longer are we going to hope the MVFC finally gets the respect of the playoff selection committee?

Penguin Nation:
A few additional thoughts:

My daughter is a Freshman at FAU.  I went to the FAU v. Tulsa game a few weeks ago, and this 0-2 (6-6 in 2013) team has a very large student section that was full.

Yes it is a much larger FBS C-USA program with a vibrant campus life and new stadium (from which you can see the Atlantic ocean).  But....there is aggressive attempts to involve the student body that I don't see at YSU.

At FAU, the HC Charlie Partridge (who replaced Pelini) wears red pants in the second half if the student section fills in the first half.  Students get free FAU t-shirts at nearly every game.  Partridge attended the new student orientation and mingled with the students (and approached and took a selfie with my daughter and her suite-mates).  There was a concert and bonfire before the home opener to create hype.

Maybe an apples to oranges comparison in terms of programs,  but the effort doesn't have to be any different.

seanbryan3:
The NDSU videos are great. I have been watching them weekly.. No excuse for us to not have media like that. Im not sure if any of you have to watch the games online, but unfortunately I live in Miami and I am unable to come up every week and watch the games so I have to.. And the stream is very poor, and the audio is worse.. (Yet you have to play 11 dollars a game to watch if you dont have the password if your in the penguin club). These individuals in charge of media need to realize that in today's day it matters to these kids and their families, just like uniforms and new gear matter to them.

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