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How good is the MVFC
lakesbison:
Face Facts. Patty V has ZERO pull and cant influence a june bug.
NDSU had to do it the hard way by just winning every game and leaving it out of the committee's hands.
but seriously, the MVFC deserves 5 teams in this dogsh** FCS division, seriously, the top 25 teams are just embarassing. NDSU, UNI, YSU, ISU, SDSU even SIU & IND ST would beat every team in the top 25 if given a shot in the playoffs.
Penguin Nation:
--- Quote from: lakesbison on October 03, 2014, 06:37:06 AM ---Face Facts. Patty V has ZERO pull and cant influence a june bug.
NDSU had to do it the hard way by just winning every game and leaving it out of the committee's hands.
but seriously, the MVFC deserves 5 teams in this dogsh** FCS division, seriously, the top 25 teams are just embarassing. NDSU, UNI, YSU, ISU, SDSU even SIU & IND ST would beat every team in the top 25 if given a shot in the playoffs.
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Lakes, if you guys are bored winning national championships, than lets move the entire MVFC up to the FBS. Then we are done with the BS selection committee, and you guys can play in bowl games, and we can all laugh as we tear up MAC and Sun Belt teams. Throw in more scholarships and you guys will be busting up your new rivals like Nebraska and Iowa (you are already busting up MN, IA State....).
You in?
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: HappyPenguin on October 03, 2014, 06:35:03 AM ---They want all conferences represented, regardless of actual performance. Otherwise those smaller conferences suffer from lack of exposure. They have a vested interest to keep them relevant.
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That is EXACTLY how it should be Happy. EXACTLY. Why would you want it any other way?
The SEC was "allowed" to get away with anything because of $$$ from GE (ABC/ESPN). Now the future of the FBS/IA is "in the crapper". Do you want the same thing to happen to FCS/I-AA?
ysubigred:
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on October 03, 2014, 07:18:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: HappyPenguin on October 03, 2014, 06:35:03 AM ---They want all conferences represented, regardless of actual performance. Otherwise those smaller conferences suffer from lack of exposure. They have a vested interest to keep them relevant.
--- End quote ---
That is EXACTLY how it should be Happy. EXACTLY. Why would you want it any other way?
The SEC was "allowed" to get away with anything because of $$$ from GE (ABC/ESPN). Now the future of the FBS/IA is "in the crapper". Do you want the same thing to happen to FCS/I-AA?
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"IF" that's exactly how it should be then there should be no "b****ING" about the playoff snub. As long as the NCAA want to represent all conferences better teams will suffer and the best team will not get a chance to settle it on the field. I wonder how the playoff's will look at the 1FBS level with the every conference represented LOL!!
GOpenZ:
I can not and will not haggle over the last teams in and out of the playoffs...unless the team being left out is a top 10 team. Win your conference, win all your games or don't expect to be entitled to the playoffs, based upon tradition, conference affiliation or anything else.
Separately just before I read this:
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on October 03, 2014, 07:16:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: lakesbison on October 03, 2014, 06:37:06 AM ---Face Facts. Patty V has ZERO pull and cant influence a june bug.
NDSU had to do it the hard way by just winning every game and leaving it out of the committee's hands.
but seriously, the MVFC deserves 5 teams in this dogsh** FCS division, seriously, the top 25 teams are just embarassing. NDSU, UNI, YSU, ISU, SDSU even SIU & IND ST would beat every team in the top 25 if given a shot in the playoffs.
--- End quote ---
Lakes, if you guys are bored winning national championships, than lets move the entire MVFC up to the FBS. Then we are done with the BS selection committee, and you guys can play in bowl games, and we can all laugh as we tear up MAC and Sun Belt teams. Throw in more scholarships and you guys will be busting up your new rivals like Nebraska and Iowa (you are already busting up MN, IA State....).
You in?
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I thought this:
Adding to our conference, under the Grow or Die method. As previously discussed, the major FBS conferences have moved to 16 teams (not that they care about travel costs)...should the conference look to add a few members and split the conference in an East and West division. Obviously our own bias nature here is to help YSU, as we see the in-efficiencies in being the farthest team East in the league. However, adding new teams will only add the same issues that we once faced…finding a separate conference for all other sports. Thus, who would be another good fit for the Missouri Valley Conference or Horizon League? What about adding the likes of someone like:
- Richmond
- James Madison
- Eastern Illinois
- Eastern Kentucky
- OVC team(s) from Tennessee
Then again, do we need to add in the most elite teams or can we just offer to any half-decent club that fits the mold for us for location? Bringing any new team into the MVFC will help them...even those teams that are not mentioned.
New division conceptually
North or West(?)
NDSU
SDSU
South Dakota
UNI
Missouri State
*New team out West or pick your Illinois team to move
South or East (?)
YSU
Indiana State
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Western Illinois
*New team in the East
*Potential 2nd new Eastern team (should an Illinois team move to the West division)
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