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paladin:
The reality is as good as we have recruited under Wolf, the MVFC has, for the most part, recruited as well or better. Talent level is high. Very high. In NDSU's case, extremely high. Record against the FCS games is instant proof. I would also note that many MVFC players are making the Pros in good numbers.  Dog eat dog league.

HappyPenguin:

--- Quote from: paladin on September 25, 2014, 03:13:19 PM ---The reality is as good as we have recruited under Wolf, the MVFC has, for the most part, recruited as well or better. Talent level is high. Very high. In NDSU's case, extremely high. Record against the FCS games is instant proof. I would also note that many MVFC players are making the Pros in good numbers.  Dog eat dog league.

--- End quote ---

No doubt here. I wonder how we'd do in the CAA or OVC? Probably wouldn't be calling for blanket staff firings.

Gotta beat who you play though, "no excuses"  ;)

Lets_Talk:
Plain and simple, YSU last deserved to make the playoffs in 2006, and they made the playoffs in 06. YSU did NOT deserve the playoffs in 2001, despite going 8-3. They had only 6 wins over D1 teams, and lost to the top 2 teams in the MVFC.

The 2005 team went 8-3, but lost at UNI and SIU in back-to-back weeks. That team had a win over D2 Slippery Rock. They lost 41-0 at PITT.

None of the teams under Wolford deserved to be in the playoffs. A team that finishes the regular season with 3 losses in a row, the last 2 at home is not deserving of a playoff birth. Also, the first loss in that 3 game losing streak was at a UNI team depleted by injuries, which was 0-5 in the MVFC at the time the teams played.

I think the MVFC has trouble getting more than 2 teams in the playoffs many seasons because of the conferences OVERALL performance in the playoffs. The OOC schedules of teams such as YSU do not help.

Here are 2 links from the Nolan Power Index. Take it for what it is worth. The 1st is the SOS for every team in FCS. The only team from the MVFC in top 20 of SOS is Missouri State at #19. This is only ONE computer rating system, so it is not a be all, end all.
http://warrennolan.com/football1aa/2014/sos


As for the Nolan Power Index, the MVFC is represented well:
1 - NDSU
7 - ISU
8 - MSU
12 - Indy State
15 - SIU
18 - SDSU
20 - YSU
45 - WIU
59 - South Dakota
61 - UNI
http://warrennolan.com/football1aa/2014/npi

penguinpower:
Warren Nolan site is bullsh**.  SHSU played a do team.  The sos has is favoring a conference

Penguin Nation:
Listening to Penguin Playbook last night, I thought Mike Kern was dismissive ( and even condescending) regarding concerns raised by Bob Hannon re: YSU's MVFC-related travel, and lack of MVFC at-large bids.

If I were the YSU AD, I would feel that YSU needs to re-evaluate conference affiliation after the 2014 season.  If the MVFC only receives 1-2 at-large bids....than it becomes a no brainer.

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