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9-3 not good enough for playoffs?

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Lets_Talk:
SDSU has a very good backup QB. I watched most of the game against Mizzou. He was 21-28 for 238 yards, and only threw 1 INT. They have 2 big receivers. One is 6'4", the other 6'5". The coaching staff did a really nice job of running high percentage pass plays. And, it helps to have 2 tall receivers who can go and get the ball. And, they have Zenner who ran for over 100 yards against Mizzou. SDSU also has a solid defense. Losing the starting QB hurts, but they have a highly capable backup QB. And, they have receivers that are very difficult to cover, including Zenner out of the backfield. YSU is only 1-6 against SDSU since SDSU moved up to FCS. The win came back in 2007, with SDSU winning 6 in a row.

NDSU has not skipped a beat. I watched alot of that game. Cannot even tell they have a new HC.

Obviously, YSU could win 1, or both of these games. YSU beat NDSU a few years ago at NDSU. But, do not be fooled into thinking SDSU is severely weakened by the loss of their starting QB. The backup played all but the first 3 possessions.

Missouri State is no longer a pushover, and that is the first MVFC game for both teams. It i on the road, and will be  big game for both teams. MSU has won 4 in a row against YSU, after going 1-11 against YSU from 96-2007.

Alot of people seem to be high on Illinois State, and historically, they have been a thorn in the side of YSU. This includes when Tress was HC

YSU going 2-2 in these 4 road games will not be easy, and I would even say 2-2 in these 4 games would be a solid accomplishment.

As for the 4 home games, YSU traditionally lays an egg in at least 1 home game. This is something that happened even when Tressel was HC.

9-3/6-2 gets YSU into the playoffs, and likely at least 1 home game.
8-4/5-3 makes things much more dicey, especially if the losses are against other MVFC teams being considered for at large bids.

Unlike many on this board, I do not believe YSU gets screwed by the selection committee. And, while the MVFC is definitely one of the best conferences in FCS, the teams do not tend to fare all that well in the playoffs. I believe this, as much as anything is a major factor in the number of teams selected for the playoffs. OOC schedule strength is also a factor, especially for YSU. The D2 games are gone, but in their place are games against teams from the 2 worst conferences in FCS. One is non-scholarship, and the other partial scholarship. YSU would be much better served in a year with 12 games to play at least 1 team from a full scholarship FCS conference. Even if it is a bottom tier team, that would be a better win and help the SOS.

IAA Fan:
I still think NDSU beats YSU, but they will not be in the post-season this year. Again if the new HC chooses to run the same O and D as his predecessor ...then they will make it. SDSU's offense runs well, so who cares about the QB? as Talk says they have two huge WR's and two receiving TE's. They run slant pass plays and run the ball. This is why they beat us last year.

Any team in the MVFC is in the play-off at 9-3 ...in my mind we are only arguing about a seed. At 4th-place in the conference there is no chance that we would be seeded.

ysuguins4:

--- Quote from: Lets_Talk on September 04, 2014, 09:15:02 PM ---YSU would be much better served in a year with 12 games to play at least 1 team from a full scholarship FCS conference. Even if it is a bottom tier team, that would be a better win and help the SOS.

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Couldn't agree more.  This season and last would have been a great time to play a home and home with an OVC or CAA team.  It would have been worth giving up the home game against Morehead St to play a quality out of conference team on the road.

Spiderlegs:
My original post wasn't intended to be a prediction but a statement of how hard it will be to make the playoffs even if we have a sensational season. Because the schedule is so weak, it is hard for me to see YSU in the playoffs unless they are 10-2 or there are lots of upsets in MVFC.

Lets_Talk:
1AA fan, hard for me to imagine NDSU not finishing at least 9-3 this year, even with the new coach. I watched alot of their game against Iowa State. NDSU dominated ISU. I know ISU is a bottom tier Big 12 team, but yesterday they played #20 Kansas State and the score was 32-28. NDSU won 24-7 yesterday at Weber State. They ought to finish the OOC schedule 3-1 at the worst, as they play Incarnate Word and then Montana, both at home. Hard to see NDSU losing more than 2 games in the MVFC.

Ysuguins4, I think YSU ought to play a team from a full scholarship FCS conference every year as part of the OC schedule. Even in the years they have only 3 OOC games. And, I agree with you about playing teams from the CAA and OVC. YSU has played many schools from these 2 conferences in the past. I think a good idea would be schedule a home-home with a school such as EKU, Delaware, Nova, JMU, Towson, Richmond, EIU. Agree that these games are played in the years 12 games are allowed. This way, even in the year YSU plays this game on the road, they still have 2 OOC games at home, and 6 home games overall.

In an 11 game season, schedule a team from the MEAC, or a bottom tier team from the OVC or CAA. These games would help with schedule strength. The opponents would be more comparable to what YSU will face in the MVFC. And, even when playing a higher tier team from the OVC or CAA, it would be a great way to gauge just how well YSU stacks up against the top teams from these 2 conferences. Especially given all the talk about the strength of the MVFC compared to other conferences. What better way to prove that to be true then by playing and beating teams from those 2 conferences that are regular playoff teams/contenders?

Spider Legs, I still think at 9-3 YSU would make the playoffs. That would mean going 6-2 in the MVFC. Things get dicey when the record in MVFC is 5-3, as that brings more MVFC teams into the mix, and also moves YSU further down the list of at large teams wit an 8-4 record and a weak OOC schedule.

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