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YSUGO:
Who was saying that wolf doesnt recruit Caliofornia...LOL...looks like he did just a little!!!

ysuindy:
It appears that the 30 new signees in the Fall is the maximum number a FCS school can have in one year, the "initial counters."  The 5 who enrolled in January count against the 2010 number.

This leads to a couple of questions:

FCS schools can have a max of 85 players on scholarship.  35 new players would seem to indicate only 50 scholarship players can return.  How many non-seniors were on last year's roster?  Does this mean that some players will leave the program?  How many?  I am not familar enough with the roster to know who is scholarship and who is not.

Does the fact that 30 were signed which is the max "initial counters" for FCS preclude YSU from taking any FBS transfers for next season?  I have done minimal web research and really haven't found a clear, consice answer.   

I would think Wolf would not have recruited to where YSU could not take any FBS transfers - but the rules can be complex.  The offset to that is that if any of the new recruits do not qualify academically, YSU would not be at the 30 max.  Nothing counts against the max limits until they enroll.

YSUGO:
Indy, i wonder if some of the guys will get partial scholarships and that can cause such a high number of kids offered.  Doesnt the SEC over recruit...i asked the only player that i know that wsnt coming back was Stephen Meadows..

IAA Fan:
True. I-AA/FCS is allowed the "equivalent" of 63 scholarships ...with a maximum of 85 receiving. In a "nutshell" ...FCS football allows equiveancies. So they use counters.

1. You are allowed 30 "initial" counters each academic year (not athletic year). So, what Indy is saying is those 5 players that registered for spring are part of the 2010 academic year ...therefore they are associated with the 2010 counters.

2. Of the 35 total signatures today, we have 10 people that will be juniors & register for spring. Thus we offered 25 total full or partial scholarships. We had 10 scholarships to give + graduation ...of 14. Thus we had (by my calculations) 24 scholarship equivalencies. Add in Meadows ...there is your 25.

3. We will have certain people not make it ...happens every year ...especially now that we are on semesters. We are fine. Lot's of local talent means school-only aid. No dorms or food. The initial 5 will not have to be concerned until the 2012 academic year.

4. Maybe an FBS move before this is an issue?

Wick250:
I don't have any information, but I would expect that a significant number of players from last season will not return.  For example, the logjam at quarterback and at running back will not continue.  It will be a good thing to see quality players leave because they cannot get on the field rather than to see players leave because they could not compete at this level.  We experienced way too much of the latter during the past decade.

I am really impressed by Wolford after his first year plus.  Last winter, he did not turn to multiple jucos but rather played the 2010 season largely with the talent handed down from Heacock.  That worked well on offense; on defense it was a catastrophe.  Now with a firm grasp of the talent level on hand, he recruited coast-to-coast to fill our needs.  Does anybody seriously believe that Heacock and staff could have recruited these kids from the South and from California?  He also did not neglect the Mahoning Valley during a distinctly "down" recruiting year on the local scene.  Most of the local recruits might be projects, but Wolford understands that he not only must win games but also reinvigorate interest in our program among casual fans.  We might all be setting ourselves up for more bitter disappointments, but I feel perfectly confident that we will soon ascend back to the top of the FCS universe.

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