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Now that you know the final 4 teams where are we in the top 25?
Wick250:
Process of elimination. We were better than every team except for the playoff participants from the MVFC, Big Sky, and CAA.
We were better than Sacramento State and Idaho, but inferior to Montana and Montana State.
We were better than Richmond and Delaware, but inferior to Albany and Villanova.
We were vastly inferior to SDSU and NDSU.
We were better than North Dakota, the most overrated team in our conference.
That leaves SIU, South Dakota, and UNI. The latter two beat us so I guess that I will place us below them. But UNI was terrible by the end of the year.
I would place us in position #9.
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: Wick250 on December 10, 2023, 11:41:03 PM ---Process of elimination. We were better than every team except for the playoff participants from the MVFC, Big Sky, and CAA.
We were better than Sacramento State and Idaho, but inferior to Montana and Montana State.
We were better than Richmond and Delaware, but inferior to Albany and Villanova.
We were vastly inferior to SDSU and NDSU.
We were better than North Dakota, the most overrated team in our conference.
That leaves SIU, South Dakota, and UNI. The latter two beat us so I guess that I will place us below them. But UNI was terrible by the end of the year.
I would place us in position #9.
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I also think we are 9 or 10. I did a similar analysis. If YSU is truly 9th in 2023, it would mean ysu is in the 93rd percentile of all teams in the FCS. If YSU is 10th the team ends up in the 92nd percentile of all FCS teams.
Paladin correctly predicted this earlier this year and he had the wherewithal to closely predict our regular season record in the MVFC. People here don't have to like the message, but the guy is correct. I hate this censorship crap. We would be fortunate to have him back here.
Now I think we can be critical since the season is over.
1. Does Phillips deserve to remain head coach? My answer is YES! The question for me is has he reached his ceiling? Is this the best we can do with Phillips?
2.we definitely have to address the defensive play. For me it's less about the players (unless you're talking about the DL) and more about the coaching and scheme. You can't leave your secondary on an island when you can't get pressure from the DL. We have to upgrade the DL. The loss of Howard is going to hurt on defense. He was the best LB we had.
3. Do we need to upgrade the defensive coaches?
I think Phillips has the program going in the right direction. Now that he's achieved the playoffs, in 3-4 years depending how you count the COVID year, I think people can back off a bit with criticismsnI see all over this board.
The real question is if Phillips is another Heacock. Keep in mind Heacock only made the playoffs a couple times in a weeker Missouri Valley/Gateway conference. The difference between Philips and Heacock is that Phillips is a far better recruiter overall.
You win with players. It's a lot more difficult to improve from the 92nd percentile to the 99th. The amount of effort required is much higher in both recruiting and coaching.
But we are once again better than 90% of the FCS.
nova75:
Hard to upgrade a coaching staff while paying very low salaries. No seasoned coach is coming here for $50k. You get what you pay for. During the Nova game they showed YSU coaches in the press box. They were all in their 20s if appeared. Maybe good coaches with potential
, but that was eye opening
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: nova75 on December 11, 2023, 06:40:48 AM ---Hard to upgrade a coaching staff while paying very low salaries. No seasoned coach is coming here for $50k. You get what you pay for. During the Nova game they showed YSU coaches in the press box. They were all in their 20s if appeared. Maybe good coaches with potential
, but that was eye opening
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I totally agree. Kids coaching kids. He's got to develop coaches AND players at the same time. I've been trying to say this all year but it has fallen on deaf ears. I will say it again, if you want better assistant coaches, then put up the money for YSU to get them.
By the way I see that I have several spelling errors in my last post including the word "weeker" vs weaker. The phone I use is inconsistent in when it applies spell checker. Not sure why some sites it is used and others it isn't, but I am pretty sure I typed "weaker".
Nova has a nice OL and seasoned coaches. YSU was mismatched with lesser coaching and that's why they were blown out.
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: penguinpower on December 10, 2023, 02:57:45 PM ---Where do we belong in the top 25 (this year)?
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Not even in. Get the blinders off. My gosh look how much NDSU improved in the last half of the season, they became the best team in the country & reputation is the only thing that got them in the play-off. Just as YSU did in the 90's when we played such light schedules and lost to any decent team played in the regular season. The upper-end Big Sky and CAA teams are clearly a step above us (Idaho, Montana, MSU, Nova & Albany). We were not going to beat Villanova & next year they will be playing with more future CUSA players that are even better. Look at all the FBS teams adding Villanova to their schedule
Nova lost to SDSU 23-12 OUT WEST, while YSU could not even manage a score against SDSU in a 34-0 loss AT HOME. We will not compete until we have the players.
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