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IAA Fan:

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--- Quote from: YsuPride on October 07, 2023, 10:21:09 PM ---Awesome performance by the defense and offense.  Missed fg and we would have performed in all phases of rhe game.  We should be ranked in top 20 now. Cannot believe that they were ranked 5th.

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I think they got a piece of that FG. It was right at an angle that I could not see it. Did anyone else see?

UNI is not a tough program. Go on ESPN+ and watch the replay. I cannot believe they beat ISU Blue and that is the second-worst team in the conference.

I too still believe that Phillips needs to go after this year without anything substantial. This SIU game is not enough. That UNI loss was really hard to take. I really thought that would set the tone. Same at coach Day in Columbus. If you do not beat Michigan in 3 years ...take a hike. I know this is Phillips first year against UNI, but this game had so much riding on it.

Also look at how long SIU kept our offense from scoring up until very late in the game.


Also I think I deleted a post just before this one. Sorry it was a mistake, I thought I was deleting my post.

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Wonder what happened to  my post!

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My fault Guinpen. I was quoting someone and quoted yours by mistake. I thought I was only deleting  my response and delete the whole thing.

IAA Fan:
Yes UNI really struggled against ISU blue. The game was about even. Then ISU threw an INT in the endzone and UNI took over. ISU forced a punt, but then ISU threw another INT in the very next series. ISU really outplayed UNI, they were just not quite as disciplined.

penguinpower:

--- Quote from: IAA Fan on October 09, 2023, 12:22:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: YsuPride on October 07, 2023, 10:21:09 PM ---Awesome performance by the defense and offense.  Missed fg and we would have performed in all phases of rhe game.  We should be ranked in top 20 now. Cannot believe that they were ranked 5th.

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I think they got a piece of that FG. It was right at an angle that I could not see it. Did anyone else see?

UNI is not a tough program. Go on ESPN+ and watch the replay. I cannot believe they beat ISU Blue and that is the second-worst team in the conference.

I too still believe that Phillips needs to go after this year without anything substantial. This SIU game is not enough. That UNI loss was really hard to take. I really thought that would set the tone. Same at coach Day in Columbus. If you do not beat Michigan in 3 years ...take a hike. I know this is Phillips first year against UNI, but this game had so much riding on it. Phillips has changed things from coach P, but the results are not there. I do like his RBs, I like his QB and so many other players, but I am not sure that Phillips planned for just how good Davidson and some of these other players turned out to be.. I mean he could not stop talking about Dre's size & it turned out to be nothing. Rushton's catching skills are where he is at as a Penguin.

Also look at how long SIU kept our offense from scoring up until very late in the game.


Also I think I deleted a post just before this one. Sorry it was a mistake, I thought I was deleting my post.

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You have zero credibility here with your stance on Philips.  Why?  Because you were in full support of Heacock for many years. He got us to the playoffs once or twice.  And he inherited a loaded team under Tressel. 

Phillips was given an empty cupboard.  He inherited nothing.  Don't you think that's hypocritical?

IAA Fan:
I am not looking for credibility to begin with, but I have never said that I expect Phillips to make the post season (this year) to keep his job. I do expect something substantial. A victory over UNI was a clear expectation for me, as I know how poor I think that the Panthers are. Now the win over SIU was another game that I expected, and I got my wish; but that is still not substantial. He still has a few games to prove himself.

I still support Jon Heacock and Shane Montgomery to this day. Heacock gave us hugely entertaining games and an extremely competitive team; this despite being strapped down with playing "Tressel Football". I mean come one, even Tressel himself never played that style of offense at OSU. Heacock left only one year after changing offenses, which he should not have done. He should have stuck around for a few more years to see how it would have worked. Better yet, he should have changed the offense earlier and he would still be here today, or at least retiring. I have been saying the same thing about Phillips, as he is a Tressel hire and he is playing Tressel ball once again (for the most part). But this is 4-years. Montgomery needs no justification, his success at YSU was massive. Despite this, YSU did not give him the team.

Secondly, we dumped Eric Wolford after about this same time & he had some decent players as well. I respect how Phillips rebuilt our lines, where Wolford basically told most of our defense to "get lost". However, after that early debacle, Wolf really did nothing to deserve losing his job, aside from being here when Pelini was looking for work.

As to me being hypocritical ... no I do not feel so. If you think that Phillips has given us even a small fraction of the teams that Jon Heacock gave us (even in his second 4-years), then you have no expectations for improvement. YSU fans no longer have the expectation of playing Tressel ball, they just want to win at any cost. Just look how Pelini raped our team but people still loved him because he won. BTW: Tressel never won the conference & he had his backside handed to him by GA Southern in his final game as a Penguin, so just how truly-full was the cupboard that he left? Maybe somewhat full for an independent, but not enough food to survive as a Gateway/MVFC club.

The YO Show:
IAA, I am thinking YSU gets another signature win this week against SD, even if it is ugly because we do poorly in domes (hope I'm wrong and it is a clear victory but we will see). If we win out then lose to SDSU, I think we make playoffs at 8-3 and do some damage.

I still like our odds against SDSU if only because this team is hungry, and SDSU is playing us the week after the Dakota Marker game.

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