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guinpen:
Was reading the below article about what the PAC12 needs to do to survive, and it mentions the idea of adding SDSU and NDSU as members.

Seems like a major stretch but certainly impressive that they would even be considered.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/pac-12-6-college-football-schools-conference-must-target-to-survive/ar-AA1eOdHq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7863f45e819647408383304f1b7ac6f3&ei=32

"North Dakota State and South Dakota State
If the Pac-12 wants to survive, they have to dig deep. North Dakota State and South Dakota State would be solid options.

These two have an immense rivalry and a ton of pedigree. The North Dakota State Bison have won nine FCS Division I football national championships. South Dakota State finally won their first FCS Division I national championship in 2022, but they’ve come close plenty of times. College GameDay appeared for a North Dakota State – South Dakota State game, showing there is a national interest in this rivalry. Putting it on a bigger stage would be a win for college football."

Wick250:
The FBS hopes of the Dakotas probably depend upon whether the PAC 12 reorganizes or becomes extinct. If the four PAC survivors raid the Mountain West and invite the stronger programs into their league, it would create openings in the Mountain West that the Dakotas could fill.  But if the PAC 12 dies then the Mountain West would take the survivors and effectively shut the door on the Dakotas. For the good of FCS football, it would be best if the Dakotas moved on.

guinpen:

--- Quote from: Wick250 on August 05, 2023, 01:47:18 PM ---The FBS hopes of the Dakotas probably depend upon whether the PAC 12 reorganizes or becomes extinct. If the four PAC survivors raid the Mountain West and invite the stronger programs into their league, it would create openings in the Mountain West that the Dakotas could fill.  But if the PAC 12 dies then the Mountain West would take the survivors and effectively shut the door on the Dakotas. For the good of FCS football, it would be best if the Dakotas moved on.

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The PAC12 and Mountain West could merge which would also close the door on the Dakotas. Agree that it would be best if at least NDSU would move on, they are too good (which is a credit to them ) and their success gets old. Would like to think that others schools would aim to overtake them but that just is not happening most years.

YsuPride:
NDSU Stadium is too small for D1 standards rt?

Wick250:

--- Quote from: YsuPride on August 05, 2023, 02:43:07 PM ---NDSU Stadium is too small for D1 standards rt?

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After doing a bit of quick research, it is now apparent to me that we are stuck with the Dakotas forever. As you suggest, their stadiums are a joke by the standards of the Mountain West, their only possible FBS landing spot. Here are some examples of Mountain West stadium capacities.

34k at Colorado State
30k at San Jose State
32k at Wyoming
36k at UNLV
41K at Fresno State
46K at Air Force

The NDSU gym seats only 19K. The brand new stadium at SDSU is also listed at 19K. There is no way that Mountain West schools would admit the Dakotas with small stadiums, poor tv market size, and strong teams that might take over their conference.

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