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ucfpengbuck:

--- Quote from: Dmorton on March 24, 2022, 09:51:53 PM ---I don't care who they had out!  YSU gave a good effort and accounting of themselves against one of the top four Mountain West schools.

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YES!  Can we say that we lost arguably our best player 3 games into the season with an achillies injury.   We need to realize that coach C has got the program out of the cellar of the conference and we're in the middle and fighting to compete with the upper echelon.  The last few years YSU has been competitive where they once were a doormat.   No way (maybe one or two years exception) the last 30 years could YSU battle a Fresno on the road like they did the other night.

Penquin68:
Recruiting at our level is difficult. The east coast is not that far away that we can't recruit there. It usually takes a coach with ties to an area to recruit it. Look at our women's basketball team. Coach Andy Crane, who has since left, came from the Minnosota area. We had a long list of players at YSU WBB from that area, a 10 hour drive away. Chelsey Olson to name just one. It will probably dry up now that he is gone. But recruitiing is key at all levels and at times a good coach hire can get you into areas that previously were not open to you.

IAA Fan:

--- Quote from: goodnews on March 25, 2022, 01:24:05 AM ---To compare St Peters recruiting area to Youngstown is like comparing Ohio weather to Florida.  St Peters is in Jersey City and close to NYC and Philly.  The biggest challenge is finding kids that qualify for college.  Lots of street ballers on the east coast. Physical, gifted and fearless.  However,  most dont understand team concept.

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So true. I watched those guys a few times in their run and they were very much Ghetto ball. They were coached to be overly-aggressive and knew that eventually the officials would stop calling it as often. They moved their pivot foot on almost every single pick they set and I doubt it was called more that a few times each game. That one player drove underneath the board, out-of-bounds almost every time, then pushed his backside up against the defender & that was not only never called, but most of the times the defender was called. Had he moved under the hoop face-forward he would have been called every time ... very smart.

Then when they met Duke, St. Peters had no idea what to do. Stronger with more finesse in almost every way. So it showed how aggressive St Peters was and they were suddenly called. Look how long it took Peters to even score back-to-back baskets. By then it was too late. Their run reminded me of Butler, only Butler had the 3-pointers. I also noticed that Duke got back in position when inbounding the ball, where most teams stayed with St. Peter's press, Duke did not. Of course that is easy to do when you are playing with a 20-point lead.

Dmorton:
Well!  They got the final four they wanted!  Big dollars!  UNC vs Duke-coach K's last go around. Kansas vs Villanova!  Another two storied programs!  Should be good!  Ratings should be high!

mudclods:

--- Quote from: IAA Fan on March 28, 2022, 02:25:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: goodnews on March 25, 2022, 01:24:05 AM ---To compare St Peters recruiting area to Youngstown is like comparing Ohio weather to Florida.  St Peters is in Jersey City and close to NYC and Philly.  The biggest challenge is finding kids that qualify for college.  Lots of street ballers on the east coast. Physical, gifted and fearless.  However,  most dont understand team concept.

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So true. I watched those guys a few times in their run and they were very much Ghetto ball. They were coached to be overly-aggressive and knew that eventually the officials would stop calling it as often. They moved their pivot foot on almost every single pick they set and I doubt it was called more that a few times each game. That one player drove underneath the board, out-of-bounds almost every time, then pushed his backside up against the defender & that was not only never called, but most of the times the defender was called. Had he moved under the hoop face-forward he would have been called every time ... very smart.

Then when they met Duke, St. Peters had no idea what to do. Stronger with more finesse in almost every way. So it showed how aggressive St Peters was and they were suddenly called. Look how long it took Peters to even score back-to-back baskets. By then it was too late. Their run reminded me of Butler, only Butler had the 3-pointers. I also noticed that Duke got back in position when inbounding the ball, where most teams stayed with St. Peter's press, Duke did not. Of course that is easy to do when you are playing with a 20-point lead.

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Assume you're talking about North Carolina and not Duke.  Coach Calhoun has always talked about with YSU when shots aren't falling it carries over to a team's defense.  I think this was the case in this game.  Saint Peter's missed so many close range shots and open 3's early, which really allowed UNC to open up a lead.  Not that it would have changed the outcome, but it probably would have been a closer game.  I think UNC's quickness just really affected Saint Peter's.

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