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Kandrase:
--- Quote from: guinpen on October 03, 2021, 07:11:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: YSUGO on October 03, 2021, 05:46:01 PM ---Here is what makes me sad.
We won 4 championships and of all the Dominant FCS schools we parlayed them for what?
A 4000 other side of the stadium.
Apply St. moved up
Georgia S moved up
Marshall moved up
Boise moved up
We haven’t done sh** in 20 years other than what 2 playoff appearances.
I have said this countless times we are in the wrong conference. We have no chance of ever winning it for years. If at all.
They will use us as a schedule filler for every Homecoming that’s what we have become. Being in a tough league means sh** if you don’t have the resources we are like the missouri and S Carolina of the SEC they ain’t winning sh**. We when we were dominant we should of made a move to a different league or hell we should have started one.
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I agree with most of what you say.
Look at the other teams we would play that have moved up, Nevada, Liberty, Western Kentucky and others. Heck I believe that several of the teams in our league that we cannot compete with, were D2 back in the day.
I am tired of hearing that we do not have the money, all these other teams figured out a way to do it, is there a rule saying that YSU cannot?
Only one place to look for answers.
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Well besides needing money, I'd also ask what the benefits of moving up are. Would that really increase game attendance or program interest? Maybe the regional rivalries would generate some interest but it's hard to tell. Look at NDSU, they could move into the big 12 today and compete, but they are content staying FCS.
I was too young for the glory days of the 90s but were the Kent St and Akron games a big contribution to program interest? If so, the move would make sense but if not I don't see why we would move, even if we had the money.
Kandrase:
--- Quote from: penguinpower on October 04, 2021, 03:56:45 AM ---I think people need to put perspective into this. UNI nearly best Iowa State who was highly ranked until beaten by Iowa. Both are FBS teams. And UNI is using the transfer portal combined with their developmental recruiting strategy and you've got a a contender.
Phillips doesn't have that yet. Who's coming here with our current line situation? It's those players that want to be a QB but were probably recruited into a different position.
Don't be upset. This is going to take time. At least they didn't quit. That is a huge improvement over Pelini team. Those kids play hard they were just outmanned. Also keep in mind that Doug Phillips as mentioned the need to improve the line play in order to win in the league. He said it has to be the foundation of the team. He knows.
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Great point PP, UNI is a very good team, I think they've got a great shot at beating NDSU this week. Our offensive struggles this week were more a product of UNI than our offense. Iowa State was only able to put 16 points on them, and 9 of those points were field goals!
Now the Western Illinois game is an entirely different story...
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: Kandrase on October 04, 2021, 12:16:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: guinpen on October 03, 2021, 07:11:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: YSUGO on October 03, 2021, 05:46:01 PM ---Here is what makes me sad.
We won 4 championships and of all the Dominant FCS schools we parlayed them for what?
A 4000 other side of the stadium.
Apply St. moved up
Georgia S moved up
Marshall moved up
Boise moved up
We haven’t done sh** in 20 years other than what 2 playoff appearances.
I have said this countless times we are in the wrong conference. We have no chance of ever winning it for years. If at all.
They will use us as a schedule filler for every Homecoming that’s what we have become. Being in a tough league means sh** if you don’t have the resources we are like the missouri and S Carolina of the SEC they ain’t winning sh**. We when we were dominant we should of made a move to a different league or hell we should have started one.
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I agree with most of what you say.
Look at the other teams we would play that have moved up, Nevada, Liberty, Western Kentucky and others. Heck I believe that several of the teams in our league that we cannot compete with, were D2 back in the day.
I am tired of hearing that we do not have the money, all these other teams figured out a way to do it, is there a rule saying that YSU cannot?
Only one place to look for answers.
--- End quote ---
Well besides needing money, I'd also ask what the benefits of moving up are. Would that really increase game attendance or program interest? Maybe the regional rivalries would generate some interest but it's hard to tell. Look at NDSU, they could move into the big 12 today and compete, but they are content staying FCS.
I was too young for the glory days of the 90s but were the Kent St and Akron games a big contribution to program interest? If so, the move would make sense but if not I don't see why we would move, even if we had the money.
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The Can't State and Zits games were of great local interest and we would beat them consistently. As a matter of fact, the last time we beat Can't State was at home and when we did, they said they would no longer play at YSU. I believe that's the game when our safety Dwight Smiley completely levels a Can't State player on one of the greatest hits I've ever seen live. It was unbelievable. Someone at YSU probably has that hit. It was remarkable. I think the receiver was knocked out cold and he did a helicopter flip (like a toothpick in the air) before landing on his back. Smiley came at him like a cruise missile. Anyone else remember that? All you heard was the packed crowd gasp and then silence because people were wondering if he would ever walk away from that hit. I bet you Trevor Parks has access to that film.
dwj:
The receiver was Eugene Baker who played in the NFL for the Facons. He actually hung onto the ball and it was a completed pass tough guy.
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Double ET:
--- Quote from: dwj on October 04, 2021, 02:15:32 PM ---The receiver was Eugene Baker who played in the NFL for the Facons. He actually hung onto the ball and it was a completed pa$$ tough guy.
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I was at that game. We completely outplayed KSU. Around the same period of time, we also creamed Ohio U. 30 to something. Didn’t the KSU’s QB go on to play in NFL as a receiver or RB or CB.
I don’t believe KSU refused to played future at at YSU. I thought couple things happened right after that season. First, there were some IA rules that prohibited 1A teams played at 1AA. Second, in ranking 1A teams, pollsters would not count victories over 1AA teams in calculating the national rankings , resulting in 1A teams not scheduling 1AA teams.
Eventually, NCAA allowed an additional game (12). The second restriction was then lifted a few years later.
Anyone remembers that?
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