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Kandrase:

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--- Quote from: lakesbison on February 11, 2021, 10:04:23 AM ---These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

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Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


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Well said.

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For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

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Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

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Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real

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There isn't any.  That was my point moron

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“Excess mortality” is a specific calculation used by pathologists to correctly calculate the impact that a disease has on mortality rate. Your calculations are not using the correct excess mortality formula, which takes into account expected versus actual deaths by comparing death counts to averages.

Around 500,000 more Americans died in 2020 than the average of the last 5 years

Problem with using death rate alone is that the rate of increase had been decreasing until 2020 when it stopped decreasing because of Covid. Death rate alone can mask actual mortality impact which is why excess mortality exists as a calculation


Here’s a good breakdown of true excess mortality in the us https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

penguinpower:

--- Quote from: Kandrase on February 19, 2021, 02:23:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: penguinpower on February 19, 2021, 12:33:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kandrase on February 19, 2021, 11:45:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: penguinpower on February 19, 2021, 07:02:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on February 13, 2021, 09:34:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kandrase on February 11, 2021, 02:47:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: guinpen on February 11, 2021, 10:50:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: lakesbison on February 11, 2021, 10:04:23 AM ---These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

--- End quote ---

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


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Well said.

--- End quote ---

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

--- End quote ---

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

--- End quote ---

Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real

--- End quote ---

There isn't any.  That was my point moron

--- End quote ---

“Excess mortality” is a specific calculation used by pathologists to correctly calculate the impact that a disease has on mortality rate. Your calculations are not using the correct excess mortality formula, which takes into account expected versus actual deaths by comparing death counts to averages.

Around 500,000 more Americans died in 2020 than the average of the last 5 years

Problem with using death rate alone is that the rate of increase had been decreasing until 2020 when it stopped decreasing because of Covid. Death rate alone can mask actual mortality impact which is why excess mortality exists as a calculation


Here’s a good breakdown of true excess mortality in the us https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

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Wrong.  Total deaths didn't increase regardless of your bad information.  If this was the case total deaths would be in excess of normal mortality rate.  That means the percentage of deaths would have increased.  It didn't.  The facts are that the total number of deaths didn't increase by as a percentage of the total population.   Get a clue.  You have ZERO basis for your claims.  My data came straight from the CDC. 

guinpen:
So about the game, interested to see how the new/younger players perform and respond to the new coach.

Kandrase:

--- Quote from: guinpen on February 19, 2021, 06:55:59 PM ---So about the game, interested to see how the new/younger players perform and respond to the new coach.

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Thanks for the topic change Guinpen. Like others have stated I’m most curious to see if the team plays the whole game. It’s gonna get ugly, so I’m very curious to see how they handle adversity. Also curious about the QB situation. I know Craycraft will start, but wondering if anyone else will get PT

Wick250:
Does anyone else think that this game has the feel of a season opener against a P5 opponent where we are just content with "a good showing?"  No expectations should translate into no pressure. I hope that our players approach this game with that attitude.  On rare occasions, you get a Pittsburgh result.

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