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Wick250:
The days of emphasizing a tough defense and cultivating a power run game are definitely obsolete in today's college football. On our FCS level, only North Dakota State copies what we did so well decades ago. Too bad those stiffs can't win anything. :o
Double ET:
I do not want to keep drilling on Mays. In the last 3 years, we were seeing the same issues on his passing game.
I don't know what passes he has completed last week. I can almost sure that they were not long passes down field to the receivers.
Last couple of years, his passes were mostly to the receivers within 10 yards of the LOS. When the D loaded up the box with LBs and safeties, he could not find receivers and started to put his head down and ran.
I do not question his ability to throw the ball. My criticism was on his inability to read the defense and find open receivers before taking off running.
If we want to make sure he could get the ball to the receivers, just keeping calling those TB sweep and WR reverse plays.
We will need good QB plays to win this year. Just look at the Browns in the last few years before Mayfield.
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: go guins on August 07, 2019, 08:57:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: ytownchief22 on August 07, 2019, 12:12:52 AM ---That is ridiculous. QB is the biggest question mark BY FAR on this team.
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AGREED. Sometimes I wonder if 1AA is watching the same sport. He's concerned about depth at long snapper instead of QB?!?!?! All college teams have tons of holes. It's the nature of the beast with graduations etc. Clemson lost THREE first round draft choices from their D-LINE! Where are they ranked? #1 Why? They have a QB! Today's football is very simple, you spread the field, you throw the ball, you hope you get a fumble or INT and win 35-28 The days of worrying about depth at DT and long snapper, and winning 12-9 is long gone.
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Bigger than having Carl working with the offense? You can have 3 great QB's but they are not going to do squat w/o a coach. You guys act like I do not see that we have no experienced QB's out there. Of course I do, but it is not our biggest problem. My comments are more addressed to questioning if the staff knows what they are doing. Sufficient depth at QB came from not using back-ups when we had opportunity to do so. Bad mix of positioning comes from a lack of planning before recruiting. This is what worries me. The Qb is obviously one of the top-4 most important skill players depending on whether or not it is a pass-play, run-play, punt or kick. Go Guins, just because you happen to produce more pass-plays (than run, kick or punt) is just a style of offense. You still have to be able to run the ball, defend the pass and stop the run. If Bo wishes to change the Penguin's style of ball that much, then he better make sure he wins 15-games, or he will be receiving more of the same negative talk that he has been getting ...even during a year where we went to the final. A questionable set of QB's will create a questionable outcome over the first few games. A questionable staff will will create a questionable outcome over the season (if not more).
Penguin ball is a style of ball, don't mess with it. Ask coach Wolf if he understands that now? People think that Bo's celebrity will allow him to make these changes ... I do not think it will without some additional hardware in the Hall-of-Fame.
BTW: ET has a very good point on Mays' deep pass game. This is Mays biggest weakness and where I am hoping to see improvement. I am not certain it is his arm-strength as much as it is his mobility ...ability to get open an let the ball go. However, if he is not "the only guy" , he will never improve. He needs to become more fluid and you cannot due this thinking that you will lose you job every weak. I mean we basically fired Wells, only to watch him come back and play some of the best ball (behind center) that we have ever had.
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on August 07, 2019, 02:47:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: go guins on August 07, 2019, 08:57:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: ytownchief22 on August 07, 2019, 12:12:52 AM ---That is ridiculous. QB is the biggest question mark BY FAR on this team.
--- End quote ---
AGREED. Sometimes I wonder if 1AA is watching the same sport. He's concerned about depth at long snapper instead of QB?!?!?! All college teams have tons of holes. It's the nature of the beast with graduations etc. Clemson lost THREE first round draft choices from their D-LINE! Where are they ranked? #1 Why? They have a QB! Today's football is very simple, you spread the field, you throw the ball, you hope you get a fumble or INT and win 35-28 The days of worrying about depth at DT and long snapper, and winning 12-9 is long gone.
--- End quote ---
Bigger than having Carl working with the offense? You can have 3 great QB's but they are not going to do squat w/o a coach. You guys act like I do not see that we have no experienced QB's out there. Of course I do, but it is not our biggest problem. My comments are more addressed to questioning if the staff knows what they are doing. Sufficient depth at QB came from not using back-ups when we had opportunity to do so. Bad mix of positioning comes from a lack of planning before recruiting. This is what worries me. The Qb is obviously one of the top-4 most important skill players depending on whether or not it is a pass-play, run-play, punt or kick. Go Guins, just because you happen to produce more pass-plays (than run, kick or punt) is just a style of offense. You still have to be able to run the ball, defend the pass and stop the run. If Bo wishes to change the Penguin's style of ball that much, then he better make sure he wins 15-games, or he will be receiving more of the same negative talk that he has been getting ...even during a year where we went to the final. A questionable set of QB's will create a questionable outcome over the first few games. A questionable staff will will create a questionable outcome over the season (if not more).
Penguin ball is a style of ball, don't mess with it. Ask coach Wolf if he understands that now? People think that Bo's celebrity will allow him to make these changes ... I do not think it will without some additional hardware in the Hall-of-Fame.
BTW: ET has a very good point on Mays' deep pass game. This is Mays biggest weakness and where I am hoping to see improvement. I am not certain it is his arm-strength as much as it is his mobility ...ability to get open an let the ball go. However, if he is not "the only guy" , he will never improve. He needs to become more fluid and you cannot due this thinking that you will lose you job every weak. I mean we basically fired Wells, only to watch him come back and play some of the best ball (behind center) that we have ever had.
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I didn't have the attention span to read everything you wrote. But to me our brand of offensive football is supposed to be stifling defense with an offense that runs A-Gap power plays, DAVE, throws to the TE's, runs screens, and runs the option occasionally and exploits a great receiver downfield to keep the defense honest. That is how I see the brand of football I think we should run. That is why I am Penguinpower on this board. It is a reminder of what we it should look like. It is what NDSU looks like today.
Double ET:
From today's Vindy:
Hegedus and Hawkins
By BRIAN DZENIS
bdzenis@vindy.com
YOUNGSTOWN
There’s renewed enthusiasm for football practice from Kyle Hegedus and Kierre Hawkins.
The redshirt-senior safety and redshirt-junior tight end for Youngstown State’s football team are back at full speed this fall after both players tore their ACLs last year. Hawkins has been getting reps throughout fall practice, but after almost a year to the day of his original injury, Hegedus was cleared for full-contact practice. His first such practice came on Tuesday.
“I love being back. Being in the athletic training room for 11 and a half months with the year we had was really tough,” Hegedus said on Wednesday. “[Head athletic trainer Ethan Solger and assistant trainer Steve Lapso] made it so that it wouldn’t be hard out here. They made it hard in rehab.
“You really appreciate being out. You really appreciate being able to do normal activities when you’re hurt and out for so long, but I just love being out here and being out with the guys.”
The team’s starting safety in 2017 was plugged right back in with the first team with the first team defense.
“He’s doing well. He’s way ahead mentally and knows the defense and what’s going,” head coach Bo Pelini said. “He just needs to shake some rust off, but he has been doing well. He communicates really well and he’s been a big presence back there.”
Hawkins initially strained ligaments in his knee during last year’s fall camp, but after trying to come back and play during last year’s 4-7 campaign, Hawkins and Hegedus soon became rehab buddies.
“I got a lot of reps and I was able to run. I played [against Valparaiso] and felt good with no problems,” Hawkins said. “Then there was that second game [against Western Illinois] and I just completely tore it.”
The pair were a common sight on the sidelines during practices last year working out with team trainers. Both players credited each other with their respective recoveries.
“We did a lot of running. It was tough, but we were pushing each other everyday,” Hawkins said. “We were all going through the same thing where the season was over for us. We’re key players and we have some big goals knowing that we have each other’s back. It was great.”
From an eligibility standpoint, Hawkins can apply for a medical redshirt after the 2020 season. Hegedus can do so at the end of this season, but said he is unsure if he will apply or not. Hegedus has torn his ACL twice during his tenure at YSU.
He’s immediate concern besides the upcoming football season is pursuing his masters degree in athletic training. As part of that program, Hegedus spent time working with the training staff for the YSU women’s basketball team. During games, the safety would man the table with cups of water for players and coaches. Given head coach John Barnes’ propensity to pace between the bench and cooler, Hegedus was busy.
“I had to fill up his water. Every time he came over, I’d have to pay attention to how much he drank,” Hegedus said. “I always made sure it was filled up before he came over. He’s a character, but he’s doing really well over there and I really enjoyed watching that team play.
“They all cared about each other. When it came down to it, they only had so many girls on the active roster and they all played heavy minutes. Whether they started or not, their minutes counted,” Hegedus added. “They relied on each other and they cheered for each other. They were so encouraging to each other and that’s what I took away from that experience.”
Both players come to practice each day appreciating every whistle, clash of pads and calls for additional workouts even when practice is over.
“It changes your mind. You appreciate things on the field. Even if you mess up a play or drop a pass, you’re thankful that you’re just able to do it,” Hawkins said. “You want to do well, but it’s just a blessing that you can just walk or move around. A lot of people take that for granted and now that I’m out here, I’m just soaking it all up.”
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