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edpuskas:

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--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 19, 2017, 11:02:48 AM ---People, the university screwed up, just accept it and move on. they may have known this legal action was going to happen, just accept it and move on.

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This is a bye week, why the rush to move on? 
I disagree.  I do NOT think the university screwed up. I believe the university. or at least a couple of significant leaders of YSU, saw a young man trying to turn a troubled life around and stepped in to HELP the young man.  I see a good chunk of the comunity and in particular the Vindicator as the screw ups.  Trying to block and ruin the young man's efforts to become a useful member of society.   The man in question servied his time.  If you believe his crime should be a death or at least life sentence then work to change the law.  For me, as a Christian, I am willing to forgive the guy and offer him a chance to rejoin society.  Many of you are not, and for that I am sad.  I'm proud of Bo's efforts in this case.   

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Maybe you can provide an example of the newspaper taking a position against Ma'lik Richmond playing. Because the only opinion piece to take a stand one way or the other that I can recall was in favor of the kid getting a second chance ("The school of redemption," Todd Franko, Aug. 6). Bertram de Souza's pieces ("Gift for YSU's faculty," Aug. 6; "Another black eye for Valley," Aug. 13; and "YSU's prez on hot seat," Sept. 17) mentioned Richmond, but the topic of each was how YSU leadership approached the subject. As far as I can tell, those columns took no stand on whether or not the kid should be on the team.

Facts matter. Misguided and misleading bloviation, not so much.

IAA Fan:
okay so then then the university screwed up go guins. The screw up was trying to trump law and the NCAA. We need to have a little faith in the original judge. I refuse to believe that a siting judge would not have sentenced him to a much more harsh sentence (let it transfer to adult prison at age 18-21) if this was a more serious crime. That being said, these protesters need to realize that their carrying on is doing more to diminish Richmond's actions. I applaud the efforts to try and keep him out (of school not merely football), but it is over and the smartest thing to do is spend your efforts keeping track of him, not holding up signs and drinking coffee. I am a person who believes all criminals have no rights. Rights only belong to law abiding citizens. However, that is not the way our legal system works and it is not fair to single out one person.

go guins:

--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 19, 2017, 06:13:30 PM ---okay so then then the university screwed up go guins. The screw up was trying to trump law and the NCAA. We need to have a little faith in the original judge. I refuse to believe that a siting judge would not have sentenced him to a much more harsh sentence (let it transfer to adult prison at age 18-21) if this was a more serious crime. That being said, these protesters need to realize that their carrying on is doing more to diminish Richmond's actions. I applaud the efforts to try and keep him out (of school not merely football), but it is over and the smartest thing to do is spend your efforts keeping track of him, not holding up signs and drinking coffee. I am a person who believes all criminals have no rights. Rights only belong to law abiding citizens. However, that is not the way our legal system works and it is not fair to single out one person.

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People who commit a chrime have NO RIGHTS?  EVER?  And I'm a Christian, so we will have to agree to seriously disagree. 

stuperman17:

--- Quote from: go guins on September 20, 2017, 08:44:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 19, 2017, 06:13:30 PM ---okay so then then the university screwed up go guins. The screw up was trying to trump law and the NCAA. We need to have a little faith in the original judge. I refuse to believe that a siting judge would not have sentenced him to a much more harsh sentence (let it transfer to adult prison at age 18-21) if this was a more serious crime. That being said, these protesters need to realize that their carrying on is doing more to diminish Richmond's actions. I applaud the efforts to try and keep him out (of school not merely football), but it is over and the smartest thing to do is spend your efforts keeping track of him, not holding up signs and drinking coffee. I am a person who believes all criminals have no rights. Rights only belong to law abiding citizens. However, that is not the way our legal system works and it is not fair to single out one person.

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People who commit a chrime have NO RIGHTS?  EVER?  And I'm a Christian, so we will have to agree to seriously disagree.

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Yea that's a pretty ridiculous statement.  They do have rights, whether it be Richmond or a person that served 20 years and is out and is now an abiding citizen... They do their time, society can't continue to punish them. 

FOOTBALLFEVER:
Richmond hearing for today has been postponed..probably a good thing..Need to stay focused for this game

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