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go guins:

--- Quote from: Wick250 on September 06, 2017, 01:19:42 PM ---I actually feel sorry for the investors who are working very hard to promote this hockey team.  Few care.  It must be frustrating beyond imagination.  The only way hockey could become important in Youngstown is if YSU developed a legitimate DI team.  Won't ever happen for financial and Title IX reasons.

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You're right, hockey means nothing in the valley and financial and Title IX will kill any thoughts of YSU hockey, but if they did, it still wouldn't mean "squat"  YSU is national championship caliber football, and we'll have thousands of empty seats Saturday.  Good grief, some country stiff named Zak Brown will probably outdraw the Quins.

ytownchief22:
I love hockey but it'll never have an impact in Youngstown.

pen4life:
I was referring to impact in a larger sense than what grabs the attention of the average  Y town fan. Kyle Conner who played for the phantoms was a first round NHL draft pick, we dont see that sort of thing coming out of Y Town very often. That is huge. Hockey fans accross North America knew who Kyle Conner is and who the Y Town Phantoms are. That is huge. The USHL is a Tier I Jr league., the players are highly talented. When the Penguins were first formed in Pittsburgh, no one came for decades. I think you under estimate local  fan interest in hockey and the Phantoms. Interest in a sport increases with promotion and discussion and that is my original gripe with Sports Wrap either they were uninterested or just to lazy to find out more about hockey, local  and national.

go guins:

--- Quote from: pen4life on September 06, 2017, 06:42:47 PM ---I was referring to impact in a larger sense than what grabs the attention of the average  Y town fan. Kyle Conner who played for the phantoms was a first round NHL draft pick, we dont see that sort of thing coming out of Y Town very often. That is huge. Hockey fans accross North America knew who Kyle Conner is and who the Y Town Phantoms are. That is huge. The USHL is a Tier I Jr league., the players are highly talented. When the Penguins were first formed in Pittsburgh, no one came for decades. I think you under estimate local  fan interest in hockey and the Phantoms. Interest in a sport increases with promotion and discussion and that is my original gripe with Sports Wrap either they were uninterested or just to lazy to find out more about hockey, local  and national.

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If you interviewed every single fan at the football game saturday (by definition, sports fans) you wouldn't get 25 that know who Kyle Conner is.  That is about one tenth of one percent of the fans.  NOBODY cares in the community.  The same fans would have the same percentage of the best players for the Scrappers.  It is minor league.  That is why it is so important for YSU to maintain it's national championship level play in football.  You think anybody in Pittsburgh knows who the best players are for Duquesne?  Nope, me neither.

pen4life:
Not sure what your point is , Ive never surveyed fans at a YSU football game about Kyle Conner (and I bet you havent either now have you?)   BUT if we surveyed a hockey crowd they might not know who Derek Rivers is . What does that prove? It proves we have a very parochial fan base (and I dont mean they only support Catholic Schools). They havent been challanged or encouraged to broaden their sports interests. And then we have a show calling itself sports wrap that caters to their parochialism. By the way Ive been to most of the Phantoms home games and I would estimate 30,000+ in attendance for last season. That is almost as much as YSU's football home attendance and certainly more that YSU basketball. Doesnt sound like a big "0" impact to me.

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