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Penguin Nation:

--- Quote from: go guins on January 25, 2017, 09:24:33 AM ---Not sure I agree with Nation in that there are no real downsides.  As I look at the evolution of YSU athletics, I am struck by the number of championships being won in all areas of athletic endeavors.  We’ve had league champions and great teams in men’s and women’s track, cross country, golf, softball, WBB and of course football.  But, except for football, recognition for their accomplishments are lost on the dung heap of  playing in a variety of conferences preventing any real rivalries or recognition.  This is exacerbated by the tremendous distances we are forced to travel for football and the following lack of rivalries and certainly no natural rivalries.   If you give me a free hand, I’d fix everything by breaking up the MAC and organizing a new all sports league around YSU, Akron, KSU, Buffalo, Dayton, Duquesne and a couple others.   Great natural rivalries, driving distances so more visiting fans and easier travel to visit etc.  OBVIOUSLY this isn’t going to happen anytime soon, but the MAC mess isn’t going away, so this isn’t totally impossible in the future.   Much rather play Kent and Akron every year that SD, SDSU, NSDU and now ND.

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I agree with most of what you said.  We can have our cake and eat it too, by staying in the MVFC and playing the MAC (like UND does) OOC.  Leaving the MVFC for any other conference (including the MAC) would be a huge downgrade.  IMO, we need more than one $$ game to get (at least partial) FCOA and be competitive long term when recruiting against MVFC and MAC teams. 

Wick250:
Eleven is an unworkable number.  This must mean that by 2020, either one more team will be added or the conference officials know that one team is leaving.  For us, the addition of yet another far flung opponent does not matter, since we must fly to every current opponent anyway except for Indiana State.

go guins:
"I agree with most of what you said.  We can have our cake and eat it too, by staying in the MVFC and playing the MAC (like UND does) OOC.  Leaving the MVFC for any other conference (including the MAC) would be a huge downgrade.  IMO, we need more than one $$ game to get (at least partial) FCOA and be competitive long term when recruiting against MVFC and MAC teams."

Joining the MAC is a huge UPgrade.  Unfortunately it would come with far too high a price and I am opposed to it for that reason.  I believe we can compete successfully at the highest level of FCS football without a second money game.  YSU is doing VERY well with fundraising and profit margins (I'm sure that is political incorrect terminology, but so am I) What I see is YSU going from an accumulated 8 million dollar debt when JT was hired to 3 M now.  That is equivalent to a 5 million profit, and giving the same performance, 2 million accumulated reserve in another couple years IF not more.   Plus the run to the NC game will sell more sponsorships, loges, tickets, and support higher prices for football.  Much more revenue coming in already.
I do like the concept of club seating as a benefit for fans and revenue for YSU. 

go guins:

--- Quote from: Wick250 on January 25, 2017, 10:18:01 AM ---Eleven is an unworkable number.  This must mean that by 2020, either one more team will be added or the conference officials know that one team is leaving.  For us, the addition of yet another far flung opponent does not matter, since we must fly to every current opponent anyway except for Indiana State.

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Eleven is unworkable, agreed. I'll help everybody out.  The OVC has 9 and we'd make it an even 10.  Better logistics for us and all sports.  Better weather too. 

YSUGO:
My guess is somebody is leaving

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