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The YO Show:
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--- Quote from: YSUGO on January 02, 2017, 09:28:20 PM ---I was at all the championship games. The 91 game my guess there was 500-700 of us. I have the same picture that Strollo has that was taken and we were lost in a sea of green. But I have to believe the 3 years in Marshall we sent more than 1k. It seems when we went in 97 and 99 there was at least 2k? Am I wrong?
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I was at all of them. The Villanova game had more people than the final game in Huntington, kind of odd. Then again, 1/2 of Ytown comes from Philly area. I still think we had the most back in 1994. It looked like we had around 4k-to 5k, but I also think that could have been an illusion because Boise had very few people there. The tailgating in Georgia was fantastic ...it was a sea of red, but the game was certainly not. This year is very similar to that. The team caught everyone by surprise back then people did not know what to do. I was pretty young back in 1979, but that seems to be the biggest final crowd that I remember.
Take those JMU numbers with a grain of salt as well. As I understand from my two calls, they took more opening day tickets that we did, but neither team used all of their 3k paper tickets and neither team ordered a second set beyond team and student seats, which are fixed at 125 on top of the two per player. I am also told that the player seats are not complimentary as it would be considered compensation? I do not buy that. Can any former players shed some light on how family tickets work?
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IAA, I am not a player, but as screwed up as it is, you are correct. The University has to eat the cost of the tickets for the player's family. It would be considered compensation to give two free tickets to the parents so they can watch the game. The all knowing NCAA sure gets that one right ::). In seriousness, that rule is archaic, doesn't seem like it was ever necessary or relevant and needs to change. No reason the athlete's parents shouldn't be allowed to go, and I myself would not consider it compensation. Sure, make anything above two non-complimentary or something, but jeez NCAA.
Penguin Ice:
--- Quote from: The YO Show on January 03, 2017, 05:00:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on January 02, 2017, 10:16:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: YSUGO on January 02, 2017, 09:28:20 PM ---I was at all the championship games. The 91 game my guess there was 500-700 of us. I have the same picture that Strollo has that was taken and we were lost in a sea of green. But I have to believe the 3 years in Marshall we sent more than 1k. It seems when we went in 97 and 99 there was at least 2k? Am I wrong?
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I was at all of them. The Villanova game had more people than the final game in Huntington, kind of odd. Then again, 1/2 of Ytown comes from Philly area. I still think we had the most back in 1994. It looked like we had around 4k-to 5k, but I also think that could have been an illusion because Boise had very few people there. The tailgating in Georgia was fantastic ...it was a sea of red, but the game was certainly not. This year is very similar to that. The team caught everyone by surprise back then people did not know what to do. I was pretty young back in 1979, but that seems to be the biggest final crowd that I remember.
Take those JMU numbers with a grain of salt as well. As I understand from my two calls, they took more opening day tickets that we did, but neither team used all of their 3k paper tickets and neither team ordered a second set beyond team and student seats, which are fixed at 125 on top of the two per player. I am also told that the player seats are not complimentary as it would be considered compensation? I do not buy that. Can any former players shed some light on how family tickets work?
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IAA, I am not a player, but as screwed up as it is, you are correct. The University has to eat the cost of the tickets for the player's family. It would be considered compensation to give two free tickets to the parents so they can watch the game. The all knowing NCAA sure gets that one right ::). In seriousness, that rule is archaic, doesn't seem like it was ever necessary or relevant and needs to change. No reason the athlete's parents shouldn't be allowed to go, and I myself would not consider it compensation. Sure, make anything above two non-complimentary or something, but jeez NCAA.
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I am a parent of a player. And my ticket is not free. They were not given any free tickets
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on January 02, 2017, 10:46:01 PM ---For the sake of argument, let's say the population of the Youngstown area is zero, the enrollment at YSU is zero, total 2016 FB attendance was zero, and no Penguin fan has ever attended a YSU championship game. Why would you still not accept the maximum allotment of the risk-free e-tickets? The only way you undersupply your fan base is if there is a demand for >4k tickets, which would be a great problem to have. The excuse offered from the AD to Charles Grove was concern that JMU fans would buy our seats (despite there being safeguards against that)....so he gave our seats to JMU wholesale. There simply is no excusing that away. There is no blaming the fans of yesterday or today. It was pure incompetence. Plain and simple.
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Change the subject. Quit retrying to repeat yourself 500 times to get the last word. Both teams ordered only paper and neither team used their allotment, so feel free to go over to JMU boards and complain abou thteir departmental staff. BS then and BS now ...MOVE ON.
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: ytownchief22 on January 02, 2017, 08:59:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: penguinpower on January 02, 2017, 08:27:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: supermario21 on January 02, 2017, 08:06:28 PM ---Yikes. The Madison forum folks have basically been saying they're expecting 10-12 K of their fans. Unfortunately for Strollo I doubt the way the school handled the ticket thing endears themselves to too many rank and file Penguin Club folks. This should've been the perfect year to cash in on all the new enthusiasm, but whatever, hopefully it doesn't matter on Saturday. Just think about how many students they could have sent if they took the full allotment. They sold out of 125 in 45 minutes...
Strollo is full of crap though about only 500-1000 fans being the norm. Maybe for a couple times in Huntington, but if you go back and watch the 99 game on Youtube, they probably had at least a third to half the fans there. An entire sideline is almost red.
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I failed to mention that he also stated population decline.
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How long are we going to use that excuse ? Jesus.
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Just the messenger here.
Penguin Nation:
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on January 03, 2017, 09:23:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on January 02, 2017, 10:46:01 PM ---For the sake of argument, let's say the population of the Youngstown area is zero, the enrollment at YSU is zero, total 2016 FB attendance was zero, and no Penguin fan has ever attended a YSU championship game. Why would you still not accept the maximum allotment of the risk-free e-tickets? The only way you undersupply your fan base is if there is a demand for >4k tickets, which would be a great problem to have. The excuse offered from the AD to Charles Grove was concern that JMU fans would buy our seats (despite there being safeguards against that)....so he gave our seats to JMU wholesale. There simply is no excusing that away. There is no blaming the fans of yesterday or today. It was pure incompetence. Plain and simple.
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Change the subject. Quit retrying to repeat yourself 500 times to get the last word. Both teams ordered only paper and neither team used their allotment, so feel free to go over to JMU boards and complain abou thteir departmental staff. BS then and BS now ...MOVE ON.
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I was responding to new information provided in a new thread, where after the SID lied to the Vindy, the AD then blames the people he screwed over....the fans...for his incompetence.
I looked at the box score for the 1999 title game. The attendance was >20k. So if he's correct, and only 500-1k YSU fans went, then the ratio of YSU fans to non-YSU fans was >1:39 -1:19. I don't think so.
As far as JMU goes, they are a different school with a different set of circumstances. Since they got 7k seats to our 1k (the absolute minimum order), I think it's reasonable to say they played their hand quite well. They completely outplayed us off the field. I hope that is reversed on the field despite our AD orchestrating a home field environment for our opponent.
FWIW, I've lost count of the stories I've heard of fans paying above face value for their tickets(call it an "AD Incompetence fee"), and also groups being divided and sitting scattered throughout the stadium.
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