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Penguin Nation:
IMO, asking the NCAA to ship hard tickets is like admitting you still use a rotary phone.  I wonder how long its been since any institution in the Natty requested them.

IAA Fan:

--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on December 23, 2016, 02:56:41 PM ---I did.  Once again, hard tickets are prepaid and almost always nonrefundable, therefore no risk of a loss.  The remainder are e-tickets and we had until 26 December to sell those. If unsold, we could return them. Whatever we didn't return had zero financial obligation until 6 February 2017.....not  even a deposit was requested by the NCAA.  Crazy generous terms provided by the NCAA.

--- End quote ---


Show me this. I have now read every single page in that pamphlet. Please show me where there is no obligation to the school. I can return things at almost any store ...does not mean I get full credit. The deposit is that we must order at least 1k.
 Please show me that ordering these "flash" tickets give credit to the school, can be refunded at full price and that we have the necessary software to support the system to sell them.


In which case why not call the NCAA and ask why they even sell hard tickets? Then YSU will get full credit with truly no outlay. Then I could call, login or go the ticket office (YSU could even make ticketron/master feel guilty and sell with no fee) and get tickets in the YSU section. Sorry I do not buy all of this.

Penguin Nation:

--- Quote from: IAA Fan on December 23, 2016, 03:31:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on December 23, 2016, 02:56:41 PM ---I did.  Once again, hard tickets are prepaid and almost always nonrefundable, therefore no risk of a loss.  The remainder are e-tickets and we had until 26 December to sell those. If unsold, we could return them. Whatever we didn't return had zero financial obligation until 6 February 2017.....not  even a deposit was requested by the NCAA.  Crazy generous terms provided by the NCAA.

--- End quote ---


Show me this. I have now read every single page in that pamphlet. Please show me where there is no obligation to the school. I can return things at almost any store ...does not mean I get full credit. The deposit is that we must order at least 1k.
 Please show me that ordering these "flash" tickets give credit to the school and that we have the necessary software to support it.


In which case why not call the NCAA and ask why they even sell hard tickets? Then YSU will get full credit with truly no outlay. Then I could call, login or go the ticket office (YSU could even make ticketron/master feel guilty and sell with no fee) and get tickets in the YSU section. Sorry I do not buy it.

--- End quote ---

Here again is the relevant section of the manual:

Not later than Sunday, December 18 each institution shall inform Trina Simerly how many tickets
they would like for the championship game (and their locations). Confirmed sales only will be
printed and shipped via next-day delivery to each institution by AXS. Ticket links will be provided
to ticket managers for the remaining block (with Flash Seats as the required method of delivery).
 A participating institution may return any unsold tickets. They will need to inform Trina Simerly at
the NCAA (tsimerly@ncaa.org; 317-917-6516) of the number of electronic tickets to be returned
and their location no later than 5 p.m. Eastern time Monday, December 26. No hard ticket returns
will be accepted. Once the competing institutions release the tickets being retained, the NCAA and
Team Frisco may use them for sale to the general public.
The NCAA will invoice the participating institutions for all tickets taken and payment will be due
to the NCAA not later than 30 days after the date of the championship game.

There are two methods for an institution to get tickets from the NCAA: hard tickets and e-tickets. 

Hard tickets are antiquated and I doubt relevant, but in case I'm wrong, they are already sold by YSU and for some reason they want them shipped from the NCAA. Since already sold and nonrefundable, it is impossible to take a loss on them.

The NCAA has contracted with a company called Flash Seats to provide e-tickets, which are converted to paper tickets when printed at YSU.  These could be returned by 26 December if unsold to the NCAA.  Again, no risk prior to 26 December...I mean zero risk.

There was zero risk in requesting the full allotment of 4k tickets electronically, and holding on to them until 26 December at 4:59 pm.  The NCAA tried to give us the best terms possible and we blew it....and then lied about it

Penguin Ice:
You guys are unbelievable.....
Who gives a damn if YSU screwed up.
There are plenty of seats still available.
I-AA are you going?
Nation are you going?

IAA Fan:
That is not what I asked ...so show me. You could be 100% correct (that there is zero financial obligation to YSU) but I do not see it in writing anywhere in what you typed or what is on any page in the manual. I do not have the link in front of me ...so feel free to post it.


Honestly I could care less if they made a mistake and apologized ...happens all the time. I just do not see it happening. However I can easily see a 3rd-party charging a fee and YSU not wanting to pay it ...in which case I applaud the move. Because there might not be anything stopping JMU fans from using it. Again there are many holes in your accusation.

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