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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2016, 11:45:19 AM »
Glad  ISUr in....birds going to make some noise in the post-season.
I agree..Do you think we should have been matched with the 6th or 7th seed with the potential 2nd round playoff game Nation?

They changed how they do bracketing now with confereces.

With NDSU and SDSU on the same side of the bracket this left any other MVFC teams against the other side of the bracket. Personally I would have rather had Citidal in 2nd round out of that group but to each their own.


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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2016, 11:57:16 AM »
Missouri Valley has to get 4 in, question was would it be illinois state or UNI
With a 5-6 record UNI had no chance.

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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2016, 11:59:32 AM »
Missouri Valley has to get 4 in, question was would it be illinois state or UNI
With a 5-6 record UNI had no chance.

I dont disagree but crazy stuff has happened before

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2016, 12:06:18 PM »
Glad  ISUr in....birds going to make some noise in the post-season.
I agree..Do you think we should have been matched with the 6th or 7th seed with the potential 2nd round playoff game Nation?

We are well situated.  Sure STFU would've been an early Christmas present from the committee, but both -DSU's are on the other side of the bracket.  No complaints. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2016, 12:34:33 PM »
Just read the notes from the committee & they made it clear of 2 things:

1. OOC was not really taken into account until seeds and especially bubble. So our bid meant everything on the home game. Keep scheduling for wins. Additionally. ILS was in almost exclusively because of the FBS game & Sam Houston was so low because they did NOT play a money game. On the slection show he indicated that the loss does not mean that much ...so we need to keep scheduling a money game until they change the rules.

2. The seeds are the seeds. They were made well in advance. They new the xDSU's were going to meet earlier than expected.

3. No TV games in round-1 or 2. Guys we need out.

Things I read into his interview ... 1 they were prepared to take additional MVFC clubs, but they were most impressed by the SoCon this year.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2016, 01:29:52 PM »
It's a joke when a 6-5 team makes the playoffs.  The regular season has become so devalued.  You now have 5-7 teams making bowl games, it's madness.

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2016, 01:31:30 PM »
SOS matters.

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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2016, 01:46:30 PM »
It's a joke when a 6-5 team makes the playoffs.  The regular season has become so devalued.  You now have 5-7 teams making bowl games, it's madness.
I have no problem with a 6-5 team making it when there are 24 teams in the playoffs. There is certainly an argument as to whether 24 is too many, but it is what it is. With 24, ILSU is definitely one of the top 24 teams in the country IMHO. Look at the Sagarin SOS for our conference in all of D1... Better than the MAC East, all of the CUSA, MWC-West, and even the Sun Belt.

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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2016, 04:13:09 PM »
They left 8-3 Fordham out. Why?

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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2016, 11:09:46 PM »
They left 8-3 Fordham out. Why?

Do you think it has to do with their choice to go scholarship? This year and last all Patriot schools went scholarship. I think this is the first year after the suspension is lifted.

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2016, 05:25:37 AM »
They left 8-3 Fordham out. Why?

Do you think it has to do with their choice to go scholarship? This year and last all Patriot schools went scholarship. I think this is the first year after the suspension is lifted.

Strength of schedule.  Lehigh won the conference but their SOS mattered to the committee.  While they said it doesn't matter, wink, wink it does.

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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2016, 08:14:53 AM »
Of course SOS matters. That's why a 6-5 team that beat SDSU and a BIG team got in and an 8-3 team that beat Colgate and Gtown did not.  On the selection show, the chairman of the selection committee said directly and plainly that SOS matters.  How could it not?  It'd be like saying the winning % doesn't matter.
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2016, 08:41:39 AM »
It's crazy how this whole selection thing works,, A few year back YSU was 7-4 BUT!! left out of playoff's because "we lost 3 of our last 4". Now fast forward to 2016, the team we play Saturday has accomplished the same feat and are in??!  :)


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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2016, 09:42:04 AM »
It's crazy how this whole selection thing works,, A few year back YSU was 7-4 BUT!! left out of playoff's because "we lost 3 of our last 4". Now fast forward to 2016, the team we play Saturday has accomplished the same feat and are in??!  :)
I was looking at the same thing.  Frankly IMO,  they did right by YSU and wrong by Samford.
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2016, 11:30:45 AM »
I think we all have to remember that we did not have 24-teams back then. Had that been so, Jon Heacock would still be your head coach right now & we would have probably 1 or 2 more titles.

The comments on schedule strength were pretty direct. SOS matters ...but only in certain situations. He all but said in the "weaker" conferences. OOC schedule is meaningless in the stronger conferences ...which is what I have been saying all along. My takeaway:

1. Schedule to get the wins (all DI ONLY requirement)
2. Start scheduling our MVFC bye-teams each year as part of your OOC schedule. We cannot be left out because we did not play a team above us. Could have gone that way with WIU if they had 1 more win.
3. Keep playing a money game.