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NDSU a Top 25 team?
go guins:
1AA, you should pick a different topic than knocking NDSU and Alabama.
Yes, most of us would love to see them both lose, but it shouldn't make us delusional! I don’t agree that NDSU is “equal” with other multiply national championship schools. I saw YSU play for the national championship 6 times and I thought we had the best players on the field ONCE. I saw NDSU the last 5 and I thought they had a clear talent advantage ALL 5 TIMES. They are clearly a superior program. The most amazing game in YSU history? Not the 3 national championships when I didn't think we had the best talent, but relied on the best coach. The most amazing win in YSU history is beating NDSU in Fargo 2011
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: go guins on September 19, 2016, 11:17:05 AM ---1AA, you should pick a different topic than knocking NDSU and Alabama.
Yes, most of us would love to see them both lose, but it shouldn't make us delusional! I don’t agree that NDSU is “equal” with other multiply national championship schools. I saw YSU play for the national championship 6 times and I thought we had the best players on the field ONCE. I saw NDSU the last 5 and I thought they had a clear talent advantage ALL 5 TIMES. They are clearly a superior program. The most amazing game in YSU history? Not the 3 national championships when I didn't think we had the best talent, but relied on the best coach. The most amazing win in YSU history is beating NDSU in Fargo 2011
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Okay then use your example. Actually the Heacock win in Fargo was more impressive as we were so dominating on D in that one. However, in both cases we simply stacked the line and crossed our fingers. IN the Heacock game we had probably more depth on defense than NDSU had on offense. Did we make the postseason on any of these years? ... NDSU did. You could have argued the Heacock year (though not well), but we clearly were not post-season material in 2011.
Also just because I do not worship the ground the Bison graze on, does not mean I am insulting them. As to Alabama, I dislike Urban Meyer much more than Saban. I am a Penguin fan. I do not give a crap about Alabama or Ohio State ... ever. I care about NDSU one week out of the year.
I know that many of you may find this hard to believe, but I would not miss a YSU game against Slippery Rock for a chance to go to the NCAA FBS championship game or even the Superbowl ...so maybe I am weird.
Although I would miss a non-conference, non-post-season Penguins game for a chance to go to a World Series game featuring the Orioles. Even then I would hope to go on a day other than Saturday ;)
go guins:
"I know that many of you may find this hard to believe, but I would not miss a YSU game against Slippery Rock for a chance to go to the NCAA FCS championship game or even the Superbowl ...so maybe I am weird."
Who's paying? Honestly, the FCS championship is such a mess of people etc., I wouldn't go unless YSU were playing (unlikely). But the Superbowl is kind of a bucket list event, and that would beat out “The Rock”!
I don't get the apparent uproar of bloggers so against a couple creampuffs along with a FBS team in the pre-league schedule. You need to bring kids into the program and when else is Mays going to play? He looks like the likely 2 year starter beginning in 2018 and he gets some time last Sat. Same is true for all over the team. Play of tough one, play a couple tune-ups and bring on the MVFC. I'm fine with the schedule. I'd have a lot more issues if I was paying OSU prices to see BGSU.
The YO Show:
It's not ego posting because it was refuting the logic of those posts in the context of their message. What was said was not the same as what you are implying further down. Tell me this, do you feel that all FBS vs FCS games should cease? Because if you do then my original post is mute.
For clarification Im not against having a weaker opponent in an out of conference game like an NEC team, or even one D2 team like slippery rock if the other OOC game is against a decent school and we have one money game. I'm a fan and go to the games anyway, not saying people don't have the right to choose not to go as fans, just saying I still go.
What rule are you talking about that allows FBS to schedule an extra game after playing FCS? I'm only aware of the Hawaii exemption?
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: The YO Show on September 19, 2016, 02:45:15 PM ---It's not ego posting because it was refuting the logic of those posts in the context of their message. What was said was not the same as what you are implying further down. Tell me this, do you feel that all FBS vs FCS games should cease? Because if you do then my original post is mute.
For clarification Im not against having a weaker opponent in an out of conference game like an NEC team, or even one D2 team like slippery rock if the other OOC game is against a decent school and we have one money game. I'm a fan and go to the games anyway, not saying people don't have the right to choose not to go as fans, just saying I still go.
What rule are you talking about that allows FBS to schedule an extra game after playing FCS? I'm only aware of the Hawaii exemption?
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Sorry saying "ego" made it sound negative towards you and that is not what I meant to do. YO Show.
Yes I am against all I-AA/FCS vs. IA/FBS games. If we do not outlaw them through the NCAA, some schools will still get financial advantage over others.
Here are the 2006 Rules changes:
* The NCAA ruled that teams could schedule twelve regular-season games (up from eleven) beginning in the 2006 season. (NCAA teams in Alaska and Hawaii, and their home opponents, are allowed to schedule an extra game over and above this limit.)
* Instant replay is now officially sanctioned and standardized. All plays are reviewed by the replay officials as the play occurs. They may call down to the on-field officials to stop play if they need extra time to make a review. Each coach may also make one challenge per game. In the case of a coach's challenge, the coach must have at least one time-out remaining. If the challenge is upheld the coach gets the time-out back but the challenge is spent. If the challenge is rejected, both the challenge and the time-out are spent.
* Players may only wear clear eyeshields. Previously, both tinted and orange were also allowed.
* The kicking tee has been lowered from two inches tall to only one inch.
* Halftime lasts twenty minutes. Previously, it was only fifteen minutes.
* On a kickoff, the game clock starts when the ball is kicked rather than when the receiving team touches it.
* If a team scores at the end of the game, they will not kick the extra point unless it would affect the outcome of the game.
* On a change of possession, the clock starts when the referee marks the ball ready for play, instead of on the snap.
Our Jim Tressel (OSU coach) was very much a part of this rule change. The big-10 and the PAC-10 wanted a preseason game or a guaranteed home game for more revenues. The NCAA said "no" because they had just gotten rid of the BCS and were afraid that this would cause tournaments (like MBB). At the same time, they did not want to agitate the conferences and they had just won them back from the BCS.
So, yes even though the agreement to play I-AA schools was informal, the IA/FBS teams were "highly encouraged" to play an FCS school and they initially had payout maximums to ensure this. This served two purposes: 1) It guaranteed a IA/FBS home game and hopefully a win while still playing DI opposition, and 2) Gave a payout roughly equal to the entire season for the I-AA/FCS club and enough to cover participation in the I-AA championship, which was difficult for most I-AA teams to do and a very vocal complaint by the I-AA/FCS conferences/AD's.
This extra game helped both DI divisions. Now IA admins want to stop playing the I-AA/FCS school which brings back all of the financial issues and the main reason the game was offered in the first place. What I would like to see is a IA team able to chose not to play a I-AA team. but they only are allowed 11-games. The NCAA must mandate a 12th game is for I-AA vs. IA only. I would also like to see it be only the first game of the season & it must be played at least 1-week prior to the start of the season so that teams would have time to work on what they learned. Or better yet, simply ban inter-divisional play all together. The later is the better move unless the NCAA is going do all of these things and set an official minimum and maximum payout. Some FCS schools were making $200k while Tressel paid YSU $750k for each of two games. That was later reduced to $600k, but still 3X what most I-AA schools were receiving from IA schools. Now they payouts are getting so high, they can get a weaker IA/FBS team to play for the same amount.
Without playing a I-AA club, for IA there is no reason to have a 12th-game ...that is just lengthening the season and everyone already knew the play-off was coming ...that was the straw that broke the BCS camel's back.
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