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Can We Finally Forget About the MAC?
go guins:
--- Quote from: YSUGO on March 28, 2016, 07:02:31 PM ---We surely are not making money or building a fan base with us being the step child of the MVFC. Nobody cares. If you asked a 100 football players or even Ohio football fans what conference YSU is in I bet less than 20 would know. Let's even say if you asked them who won the FCS even less than that. But a kid in Ohio would know a MAC school and know that they are a true D1 school. They would know they are on ESPN. We need to quit hating the MAC. That is old news. My hope is we can get in as a football only school. As for them dropping down if it does only the bottom programs might do that. Toledo, Bowling Green, Northern Il. And the one Directional Michigan as well as Ohio u would probably move on and BG as well. Who knows what will happen. But I as a fan am tired of our conference and when they added the Dakota's just wasn't a plus for us. More travel we don't recruit their area makes no sense for us. None. I am sick of hearing how great our conference is. Means nothing to me and most of the fan base. Sagarin Ratings don't draw fans.
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YSUGO, so you think being a stepchild to the MAC is better than being a stepchild to the MVFC? I suggest you check with Akron and Kent before answering. The secret is to win and that doesn't matter which conference. ND has made a TON of money, played in a TON of bowls etc. as an independent. Success is the answer, not a league over your head.
YSUGO:
The league is not a good fit for us. What do we have in common as fans, in who or what we recruit little or no tv exposure. Akron and Kent would be great rivalry games. It would bring back fans and interest. There is alumni from both schools in this area as well as other MAC schools. Nobody in the media the fans and football recruits no anything about the MVFC. Nobody. Even a When the Bison came to town nobody cared. I don't know what you guys don't get the 90's was almost 20 years ago . A good recruit would be like are you serious I wasn't even born when that happened. They will pick Akron or Kent before us. I get that we are in a tough league but sagarin doesn't buy tickets and fill the stands. Being able to play schools that people can relate too is smart business. It's time to get off this we hate the MAC crap. Will it happen probably not because 6000 diehards can't afford another dollar to get us there but we got the MVFC . Can't wait for the 53 fans that Indiana St brings.
Wick250:
YSUGO,
Please look at the figures at the top of this thread. To match the LOWEST Ohio MAC expenses, we would have to raise our budget by about 7 million each year. To attain status as a MIDDLE of the pack Ohio MAC school, we would have to raise our budget by 13 million each year. That is impossible. Surely you can see that.
Now in this era of fiscal austerity in the state government, if the legislators mandated a limit on the amount that state schools could spend on athletics (not counting OSU which relies on no state funds) then all those Ohio MAC schools would be forced to reduce spending to our level. A FCS MAC conference would be great. Unless that happens (and it won't) pushing membership in the MAC makes no sense.
go guins:
Wick250,
Boy would a 1AA MAC be GREAT. Unfortunately your comment (and it won't) is correct. If you had a moment of complete honesty, Akron, Kent, Buffalo BGSU, and a bunch more would jump at the chance to be completive for a national championship annually while reducing budgets by millions, to 10's of millions at the same time. What confuses me is this talk about YSU wanting to duplicate the failure of Kent and Akron. Whatever, we aren’t going to the MAC even if they asked, which they are NOT going to do!
Penguin Nation:
If in the MAC, YSU would again be able to play $$ games w/ the BIG for much more money than we are getting from Pitt. This in addition to the the things I mentioned above would narrow the gap, maybe enough if we were FB only members? The budget #s in the OP are from full MAC members. Let's face it, in most non-FB sports we'd get demolished in the MAC.
Maybe we can transition the FB program to be a step closer to the MAC.
--Replace a boring NEC game with a MAC game on the schedule..yes it'd be away, but Can't is paying >$300K to FCS programs, which is more revenue than we get from a home game.
--add FCOA schollies, the MAC has 'em, and this would level the recruiting playing field. Also, several MVFC teams now have them. Parlay the MAC game revenue to pay for it.
--start to again dominate FCS FB. It's hard to sell an upgrade to FBS when you are struggling in FCS.
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