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The Myths and the Realities of YSU Football Recruiting ...
IAA Fan:
Some of those names on that list are a nice trip down memory lane. Some of them I completely forgot about them and they were so good ...Samsa, Ison, Savage, Rodemoyer and several others
Penguin Nation:
Ahhhhh.....nothing quite stirs the blood like a "Heacock was a competent HC" claim, or that he was as good as, not just the Wolf, but any former or current YSU HC.
Yes....JH made the post-season once in 9 years.....so did Jerry Slocum.
JH inherited the Great Ones's players....the Wolf inherited JH's players. If you take out the first two seasons where they were playing with someone else's recruits.....JH does not have a winning MVFC record, but EW does. That's because the EW record was one of progressive improvement (sans the final year) and JH was one of progressive decline. Looking at the final 2 years, EW has a winning MVFC record, and JH has a losing MVFC record. This is even more pronounced because, as was correctly mentioned earlier, the MVFC was in a recruiting arms race triggered by NDSU. During every year but one of of EW's tenure, the National Champion was from the MVFC, and in the final year, so was the runner-up.
In his very first HC game, EW was beating Penn State, and eventually beat Pitt. JH....noncompetitive against FBS teams every time.
EW beat the National Champions in their house, and beat UNI.....JH.....folded like a cheap suit.
When the Great One left, he went to tOSU. EW went to the NFL. JH? He took a year off (at great expense to YSU...furthering his damage to the program) and then went to Can't.
Neither are among the legends of YSU...Beede, Narduzzi, or Tressel....but JH is in a special category of suckitude.
paladin:
Well said, Nation. But the title here is "MYTHS and REALITIES". Heacock was a really bad HC who didn't like recruiting. Wolf damn near recruited his first class single handedly as his staff had not been hired yet. And Wolf ran off most of Heacock's poor players and played his young boys while advancing in record year after year. But not making the playoffs, the idiot AD let him go when he should have kept him as the MVFC was getting tougher and tougher. Beating a D -I team ( and not a MAC team) and being competitive with them was overlooked. Heacock got blown off the field against D-I teams and was never competitive. The MVFC has been the BEST league in FCS for at least 5-6 years, while the MVFC had one good team during Heacock's tenure. When Heacock was falling off in annual record , he should have been fired not extended. When Wolf was improving each year with winning records and beating a D-I team and being competitive with them, he should have been extended. But the incompetent AD showed his intelligence level, as he has done with men's BB and women's BB.
And lets be fair -- JT had great teams, won 4 national titles. And another at Ohio St. Yet YSU will ( maybe forever) be doomed as long as the memory of cheating here ( and at Ohio St.) is remembered. YSU has been eligible several times only to have BS reasons used to keep them out. Read other boards. Many believe the YSU titles are tainted with cheating. YSU will have to go over and above to get into the playoffs again. That was against Wolf and will be against future coaches here as well.
Back to the SPE (?). Paladin predicted the outright MVFC championship & the playoffs under Heacock. Was that negative ? No, but it was forgotten. I predicted the first Heacock losing season and was called crazy. Yet it got quiet here when I was proved right. Was I negative ? No, just accurate. I predicted the second losing season and again was called crazy. Presto ! Again I was right and most here looked like fools as the talent level was exposed. Yet I was called negative for being right. I called most of Wolf's years correct as well and missed only in projecting the playoffs ( they were eligible record wise). Yet, somehow I'm always negative.
Heres the best part................... while most here show no knowledge of talent evaluation and ALWAYS project good things, I'm on the record again ............... Bo's first two classes are stinkers. Everyone will get to see if Paladin is TRUTHFUL AND CORRECT. Or if he is negative and wrong.
Meanwhile, please continue to hype it up. Please tell us how great Bo is as a coach and a recruiter.
And pass the popcorn. The party is getting started.
YSU FAN#34:
So....Paladin. If i were to raise my hand and scream out that you were correct with all your predictions. Would you FINALLY go away??? You relentlessly b**** about how we think you are wrong...well ok...you're right. Now please S. T. F. U. and go away.
Dear God you are honestly worse than the NDSU fans who come here to stir it up.
And btw...not sure how calling people on here "scum" could be considered anything BUT negative. Go back in time and rehash whatever it is that has you hating Stollo and everyone else so bad, twist it up, smoke it, and eat some Doritos. Seriously, what motive has you coming here to post that our coaching selections suck, our recruiting classes suck, Our bean counters suck, the AD sucks and finally that the members of this board suck week after week year after year? Are you that bored and lonely? Your a damn troll...find somewhere else to grind your axe. It's flipping beyond irritating already.
Wick250:
I had been a participant on this board since 1997. I stopped coming here last October, completely fed up with wading through the hate that this man directs toward our university. I decided to return today to read about members' impressions about our recruiting class, fully expecting to confront more hate-filled garbage. My expectations were met.
IAA Fan, why can you not see what this character has done to your board? Do you not understand that YSU fans resent this constant stream of insults against the institution that we love? Do you not realize that you have lost over a dozen of the best and most intelligent YSU fans who left this board because of their disgust over this hater? Wake up.
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