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Toledo defensive coordinator Jon Heacock named interim head coach
ysubigred:
Good ole' Jon and the boyzz looked good last night against a ranked Temple team. I called for his head his last year here,, Shame on me :(
go guins:
--- Quote from: ysubigred on December 23, 2015, 07:45:06 AM ---Good ole' Jon and the boyzz looked good last night against a ranked Temple team. I called for his head his last year here,, Shame on me :(
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His problem was more recruiting than coaching. No recruiting required in interim roll.
IAA Fan:
--- Quote from: go guins on December 23, 2015, 09:23:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: ysubigred on December 23, 2015, 07:45:06 AM ---Good ole' Jon and the boyzz looked good last night against a ranked Temple team. I called for his head his last year here,, Shame on me :(
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His problem was more recruiting than coaching. No recruiting required in interim roll.
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I really think it was more the entire staff's recruiting, as we had some really good recruits, quite a number of NFL tryouts and camps under coach H. Although coach H had the responsibility. I think two things gave him the reputation:
1. Said that he did not like the traveling required during the recruiting.
2. He did not have the depth of staff that coach T had, so Heacock really was traveling a lot more than a HC should. He could not get out into the local schools & make his face known.
Tressel had a good recruiting staff and he was basically called in "to close the deal" if need be. Coach H did not have that same luxury. To his credit ...although I think they a mistake with the type of players they recruited ...Wolf's first coaching staff were really solid recruiters.
go guins:
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on December 23, 2015, 10:06:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: go guins on December 23, 2015, 09:23:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: ysubigred on December 23, 2015, 07:45:06 AM ---Good ole' Jon and the boyzz looked good last night against a ranked Temple team. I called for his head his last year here,, Shame on me :(
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His problem was more recruiting than coaching. No recruiting required in interim roll.
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I really think it was more the entire staff's recruiting, as we had some really good recruits, quite a number of NFL tryouts and camps under coach H. Although coach H had the responsibility. I think two things gave him the reputation:
1. Said that he did not like the traveling required during the recruiting.
2. He did not have the depth of staff that coach T had, so Heacock really was traveling a lot more than a HC should. He could not get out into the local schools & make his face known.
Tressel had a good recruiting staff and he was basically called in "to close the deal" if need be. Coach H did not have that same luxury. To his credit ...although I think they a mistake with the type of players they recruited ...Wolf's first coaching staff were really solid recruiters.
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Another thing that gave him the "poor recruiter" label was the poor recruiting classes! Maybe your comments are right about a "few good men" with NFL prospects is on the money, but frankly the breadth and depth of his recruiting didn't measure up. Neither did Wolford’s. I wonder if the staff restrictions can be supported with budget numbers from the periods in question.
IAA Fan:
I would not agree there Go. I think coach H's consistency may not have been to the standards of the middle Tressel years, but coach H's recruits were very good overall. The last few years when he was trying to convert to spread, especially the year we were hit with injuries. However, those were his last years and that is what most people will remember about coach H. Hard to compare because the two different coaches (T & H) as we were in a conference at that point & the 'glory" years for YSU were as an independent. In general though, the top athletes during the Heacock years were well above most in the Tressel years. When we moved into the Gateway, our players were noticeably behind the rest of the conference.
Certainly there were exceptions in both cases. I also feel that the 90's was when the Valley started to diminish as a power prep-level recruiting base. So where Tressel could take a chance on a local kid (that may be a reserve in HS), Heacock could not. Heacock also did more recruiting in states like CA, TX and GA because of this.
I agree with you on the general recruit of Wolf, I did not say his recruits were good, but his coaches were good recruiters ...it is just that I did not agree with the style of player that Wolf's guys recruited ...predominantly on defense.
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