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FOOTBALLFEVER:
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--- Quote from: go guins on November 11, 2015, 09:01:06 AM ---I rooted for Jeff Ryan every game, but now that he is "history" at YSU, he was a showboat, and not a winner and I was glad to see him go.
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Ryan would have picked up the 2 point conversion against ILS by sacrificing his body, as opposed to going to the ground at the 1/2 yard line without ever being touched.
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You have to score the TD before anybody goes for anything! If that's all you have to offer, you're a sad case.
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How soon we forget about the execution on the blocked extra point that made us go for 2 in that situation
JP21:
Jeff Ryan was one of the better quarterbacks YSU has had. How many more Ricky Davis, Tanner Gary, Hunter Wells and whoever the hell else do we need to see? The QB play has been awful outside of Zetts since Ryan left, if you can't see that you should get your eyes checked, just saying. The last time we had a good QB was Zetts and look we went deep into the playoffs that year.
Buddy:
We would have still gone for two because we went for two once before in the game to make it a 3 point game at one point. Had we made the extra point we would have not done that
go guins:
You'd think this was men's tennis. Only the #1 singles match matters. Let me count....... Yes, 21 other guys + special teams besides the QB. Ryan, Zetts, Hess, and Wells. I'm sure you could pick games each we primarily responsible for a loss, but same for a pulling out a win too. Team sport, team wins, team loses, not the QB. Hess had a ton of yards, TD’s and loses because gave up too many points. Not all on QB. Not all on DC either, good or bad. Team sport and we will need great effort from all 3 units tomorrow.
paladin:
QB and the "system" Montgomery employs are two different animals. Ryan wasn't a great QB but he was a good athlete who played QB. Ryan was successful because they LIMITED what they had him do and he had good instincts to know when to pull it down and run and not always looking good doing it. Hess was a decent QB but he was shoehorned into a system and kept there by Montgomery. Montgomery doesn't use a QBs talent, he forces the qb TO PLAY IN HIS SYSTEM. Years ago, QB were recruited for their ABILITIES and then plays were put in for them. Montgomery puts in his SYSTEM and forces QBs to play into that system disregarding their abilities. That is what is going on now . When Hess graduated, the cupboard was bare -- Wells drove DAILY to YSU and worked under Montgomery learning the system. He had a BIG leg up over Davis who was in the Cincy area . Yet the "sy st em" was employed and the actual talents of the QBs ignored. Majot mistake. Best QB are those who have plays put into the O for them, not some coaches "ideal" system and force players to play in it. Wells nor davis will never be good here because of that. It would alos help to recruit to SPECIFIC skill sets in QB recruits and not bring in QBs and force them to do things they didn't and don't do.
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