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chezmustache:
     Slocum lost three underclassmen to transfer at the conclusion of 2013 - 2014 (Weber, Steward and Beamon).  In February he dismissed Fletcher Larson from the team after almost five years in the program.  In the past three weeks the media reported four more underclassmen announced or indicated they will transfer.  The running count is eight of thirteen scholarships were vacated in the past twelve months, seven voluntarily.  This is not by accident or coincidence.  There is a cause.  It is management's job to identify the cause and address it.  That is the path any responsible business would follow.   

     Additionally, it was offered earlier in this thread Slocum's career record at YSU is something like 118 - 190.  If you discount games against teams the Penguins had no business playing (as RPI and Sagarin do), the record is closer to 95 - 190.  How can anyone mischaracterize a .333 winning percentage over a ten year time period as mediocre?         

IAA Fan:

--- Quote from: popsicle on April 01, 2015, 10:34:49 PM ---Great comparison 1AA. You're comparing a coach who wins 30 games a year, sells 15000 tickets 15 times a year, ranks in the top 20 each year and competes for his conference title annually.....to a guy who has never won 30 games in a year( or two years combined), sells 1500 tickets max, won't even play top 20 teams, and hasn't sniffed the semifinals in his conference tourney! Stick to your Rock band comparisons you made on the other thread, that way I won't know if you know what you are talking about.

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It was a comment Popsicle. Meant to show the changing landscape of college basketball. The difference between the have's and have not's, etc. If I was intending to show that YSU needs to do this, then I would have said so. Then you can lock me up.

Secondly, I have never said I am happy with the state of affairs with YSU basketball. One thing that I will want to see, well before any talk about changing coaches, is the commitment from YSU. At that point I still feel that Slocum can lead this team in the those conditions. Quite frankly, as I mentioned previously, there are hirer priorities for YSU athletics and have been since about 1993 ...and I agree. If you want to talk specifics it has to be it's own topic without all the "fire Slocum" or "fire Strollo" crowd taking over.

ValleyTalk:

--- Quote from: YsuPride on April 01, 2015, 07:26:36 AM ---I also hear Bobby Hain may be leaving as well.

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Someone appears to be stirring the pot with baseless rumors.

jbags:
I dont understand your comment about YSU's commitment to mens basketball...what do you truly want them to do? Do you think there was no commitment to basketball when the entire lobby to our facility was upgraded to a D1 level? The basketball weightroom? The media center and film room? And previously the locker room? Those are top notch dollars commited to upgrade the program. Perhaps you are talking about coach salaries and recruiting budgets..well we seem to have the dollars to recruit players from Florida, Kansas, Texas, Louisiana, and Indiana, not to mention Michigan. So it must be salaries. Granted, our head coach doesnt make nearly the money it takes to offer someone with "name" recognition, so we have to find someone with a good record that wants a chance at the D1 level (ie Slocum..Peters) or some asst. at a higher profile school that wants to run their own D1 program (ie Robic, Cleamons). I think the commitment is there but our choices havent always worked out. The fact that we now employ a lame duck HC that surely has one year left and a staff that seems to lack the juice to take over added to the fact that we have had an inordinate amount of defections lately paints a pretty bleak picture. What do you want administration to do to prove it has a commitment to our basketball program? Anybody? What's the answer?

Bob Rooney:
I attended many games with JBags and his point is very valid. Going to a men's hoops game was an event. Now I can't even be bothered to watch the replay on TV. His offense is the same stale thing with the big guys out front passing the ball. They may as well since there is no post game to speak of anyhow. It was the best of times in Div.2, it is the worst of times in Div. 1.

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